Should Dragon Ball Super have skipped the movie sagas?

[DBZ_Lee]

Absolutely not. I feel that if they would have gone straight into the Universe 6 Arc, not only would it have been a bit odd jumping right in (they would have had to have had some sort of build up) they would have been unable to show Goku working as a farmer, Vegeta's attempts at getting Whis to train him, Pan being born etc etc.

Simply too much happened between Majin Buu's defeat & BoG, and also between BoG & Freeza's resurrection. The biggest disappointment for me has been the haste in which Toei have gone about re-telling the "F" Arc.
The BoG Arc was re-told rather well in my opinion, and they added quite a few elements which made it very entertaining. It would seem as though Freeza is being rushed due to it not long being released on home video, and they don't want to risk losing too many viewers before the Universe 6 Arc begins.

Also, by re-telling the movies, they were able to give Toyotarō the chance to get far ahead enough with the manga.

[dbzfan7]

Pan being born.

We never saw that. She was just suddenly right out there in existence just like all the other saiyalings and that was that.

[DragonHermit]

I think the two movies should have been retold only if drastic differences happened to the plot (and not just transferring party from Capsule Corp to a boat)

Pan being born.

We never saw that. She was just suddenly right out there in existence just like all the other saiyalings and that was that.

are you a birther?

[dbzfan7]

Pan being born.

We never saw that. She was just suddenly right out there in existence just like all the other saiyalings and that was that.

are you a birther?

What? What I meant was we pretty much skipped over Pan being born. Just like Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Marron, etc., she was already born and that was that.

[GTX]

Retelling is not the problem I think dragonball need better pacing in this modern anime era .

[djcoopdawg]

Super should have shown what was happening behind the scenes of the movie, showing Champa and Vados being mysterious. Then the show would fill in the gaps between the movies including more of the Frieza empire and Frieza's training.

[buutenks]

Absolutely not.BOG movie while i enjoyed the fact that beerus and whis were introduced,the fighting itself was boring and movie also tad boring,watched it once and never again.Goku vs beerus fight in the movie bored me to tears except for the last part where goku absorbed the fireball.

Now BOG saga,enjoyed every episode and the beerus vs goku fight was amazing.

Now ROF,i really enjoyed and still enjoy the movie,watched it multiple times and goku vs freeza and vegeta vs freeza is epic also z fighters vs freeza troops is epic also.Plus ssj gohan one shotting sisame was again awesome so ye.

However i still cant wait to see goku vs freeza,vegeta vs freeza in DB Super,I'm sure it will be a fight i will enjoy watching multiple times.Plus z fighters vs freeza troops,gohan vs tagoma/ginyu ^^

So i am glad they retold.

[FortuneSSJ]

Super shouldn't even take place before EOZ. That's the problem.
People want a DBZ sequel by Toriyama, not a DBZ special edition.

Last week before Super began, Kai ended with Goku leaving with Uub. And now we are again before that. Bad decision.

And retelling the movies is far form a good decision, even though there are being much better than their movie counterparts.
I'm enjoying Super, but this isn't what I wanted.

[Wezenheim]

Super shouldn't even take place before EOZ. That's the problem.
People want a DBZ sequel by Toriyama, not a DBZ special edition.

Last week before Super began, Kai ended with Goku leaving with Uub. And now we are again before that. Bad decision.

And retelling the movies is far form a good decision, even though there are being much better than their movie counterparts.
I'm enjoying Super, but this isn't what I wanted.

Yeah, that's one of my problems with Super actually. We all know how it will eventually end, so there's not much to be nervous about as far as the main cast is concerned. Beerus might get killed off or something, but we know that everything will be alright. I actually think it would be cool to see Oob fight in 'F' and in the U6 arc. That being said though, I'm not totally against Super taking place at the point where it is. It'd be kind of jarring to see Goku go from a mentor back to a student who also has a student. Plus it would kind of take away from Oob and Pan seemingly becoming the "next generation" of fighters. I really want Super to provide extra closure for the final ending, add more to it.

[Doctor.]

I don't think the problem is it starting before the 28th TB like I thought before. I mean, I can still watch the Saiyan or the Freeza arc and still feel the same degree of despair, tension and hopelessness as I did when I originally watched them. And then, there's of course the fact that we know that in these kinds of good vs evil stories, good will always win. All that the epilogue does is make it obvious which characters will stay alive, but even so there are new characters that can die (Beerus, Whis, Champa, Vados, the 5th U7 member, U6 character, etc). You don't even need to kill the current characters, you can make them have persona dilemmas that can impose tension in the story, too. And there's also that slightly less likely option of them retconning the epilogue.

If you're not feeling any tension from Super, I think that's more of an issue in its execution rather than anything else. The two films had this problem too.

[sintzu]

They didn't do that good of a job with BOG but it looks like they're putting more effort into the RF arc so hopefully the overall arc will be worth the retelling.

[DragonHermit]

Why are people so adamant EOZ will follow after DBS? Toriyama might scrap EOZ altogether. It was just a quick way to cap off Buu saga.

[Wezenheim]

I don't think the problem is it starting before the 28th TB like I thought before. I mean, I can still watch the Saiyan or the Freeza arc and still feel the same degree of despair, tension and hopelessness as I did when I originally watched them. And then, there's of course the fact that we know that in these kinds of good vs evil stories, good will always win. All that the epilogue does is make it obvious which characters will stay alive, but even so there are new characters that can die (Beerus, Whis, Champa, Vados, the 5th U7 member, U6 character, etc). You don't even need to kill the current characters, you can make them have persona dilemmas that can impose tension in the story, too. And there's also that slightly less likely option of them retconning the epilogue.

If you're not feeling any tension from Super, I think that's more of an issue in its execution rather than anything else. The two films had this problem too.

That's also true. Episode 11 of Super was a good example of how tension can still be utilized. When Beerus stabbed Goku, I was pretty darn surprised and unsure of what would happen next. Like I said, I think Super can still add more to the end and to the series as a whole and if it can do that, I don't see any harm in it taking place when it does. As a whole, I still don't care much for most "prequels" but I'm still enjoying Toyotaro's current manga a lot. I dunno. We'll see.

[Dbzfan94]

Why are people so adamant EOZ will follow after DBS? Toriyama might scrap EOZ altogether. It was just a quick way to cap off Buu saga.

I really hope they show EOZ in some form. If not the events, at least the timeskip. EOZ Goten is really an underrated design. Little Pan is always a delight to see too

[Vice]

At this point I'm inclined to pretend that movies are the first two seasons of Super and these episodes don't exist. Super has either added nothing that's better than what the movies did, or the stuff they've added is idiotic and nonsensical or meaningless padding. The movies have absolutely done this better.

[DragonbaIlZ]

I'm alright with Battle of Gods having it's own arc. It's the introduction of Beerus and Whis and since they're here to stay I feel it's important to have that story brought into Super. FnF on the other hand, I can live without. It was a cool movie, but that's all it felt like to me. Just a movie. Good thing they've made a few changes in the anime to keep things somewhat fresh.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

If anybody wants to watch Super in the future, I'd advise them to skip these arcs and watch the movies.

Worse yet is how padded the Beerus episodes were. Did we really need 12 episodes to cover the Battle of Gods movie? The whole thing should have been 6 episodes at the most, (the movie was only an hour and a half if I recall, 6 episodes at 22 minutes each would have been enough), so its ridiculous.

Super might have been a good idea, but it's been a waste of time to watch for the most part and pretending it's something brand new prior to U6 was bad marketing. Most people won't want to sit through Filler/Padding to know what happens, they'd rather just get straight to the meat of the arcs and all of the retcons could have been used just for flashbacks in an actual anime.