"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Ajay » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:08 am

Sodhi wrote:Dragon ball super Blu-Ray episode set 1 should have come out today. So is something fixed or not?.
Yup! Sure seems so. Though the improvements appear to vary. Some are really good:

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And others are... passable, at best.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:40 am

Ajay wrote:
Sodhi wrote:Dragon ball super Blu-Ray episode set 1 should have come out today. So is something fixed or not?.
Yup! Sure seems so. Though the improvements appear to vary. Some are really good:

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And others are... passable, at best.
Source: https://twitter.com/iza_dbwj
It's not perfect but it's definitely an improvement.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:56 am

That is a huge relief. I personally dont mind about episode 5 though, I'm more interesting in the touch ups they did for other episodes, if such edits were even done. Would be a shame if this was a episode 5 only deal.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Araki » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:11 am

See, that's why random posts in random Korean forums ("i asked Toei lolz") shouldn't be discussed seriously.
It seems even some less noticeable shots were changed.

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:23 am

Good to hear they did go back and do touch ups.
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:28 am

I'm not surprised so little was changed. It doesn't seem like there is much in the way of time for Tate Naoki to do anything as it is.
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Post by Noah » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:36 am

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Noah wrote:Like that was something "new", Really, why not tear Gohan or Krillin arms off for a change? Why always Piccolo? And for god's sake that scene in NEP was awful! It was like Tagoma tearing off Piccolo arm was like someone pulling the branch of a tree! Real lame, it hadn't the feel of a body member being teared off.
That's how Freeza did it to Nail's arm during their battle back on Namek. Even Tenshinhan's arm got ripped by Nappa.
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Sodhi wrote:Dragon ball super Blu-Ray episode set 1 should have come out today. So is something fixed or not?.
Yup! Sure seems so. Though the improvements appear to vary. Some are really good:

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And others are... passable, at best.
Source: https://twitter.com/iza_dbwj
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Draconic » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:37 pm

It's not like the second half of the episode was that bad anyway. As long as the major changes are done to the first, everything is fine. At last we can get over this.
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:56 pm

The improvements don't look any less atrocious.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:49 pm

I wouldn't say it wasn't worth discussing, but treating it as an irrefutable source for a news story would be taking it way too far.

Regardless, I'm just glad it turned out to be wrong and we got some fixes afterall. Episode 5 really needed to be cleaned up a bit, as I feel it was actually the worst looking episode of the franchise and keeping it that way could have lead to some hesitation for a TV deal.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ZombieVito » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:50 pm

So they did make corrections, thank god. Now we can finally mov.....
fadeddreams5 wrote:The improvements don't look any less atrocious.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZ_Lee » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:51 pm

Ajay wrote:
Sodhi wrote:Dragon ball super Blu-Ray episode set 1 should have come out today. So is something fixed or not?.
Yup! Sure seems so. Though the improvements appear to vary. Some are really good:

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And others are... passable, at best.
Source: https://twitter.com/iza_dbwj
I'll take those improvements, at least they tried to do something. Hopefully some of the other scenes got some touch-ups too.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:21 pm

The corrected version looks like it actually has Gokuu thrusting his body forward to put it behind his punch.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by djcoopdawg » Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:58 pm

There is little improvement it seems from those still frames. But perhaps the fluidness has improved. Can someone make a video comparison with the same scene split with the tv and dvd versions. That would be very nice to see!

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by BlackMagick » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:28 pm

I'm somewhat pleased with the clean-ups on some of the frames. It's a far cry from amazing but it definitely looks better. Aside from generalizing and unfair criticism regarding Super in comparison to Z, I think a major reason we are hearing so many complaints about Super's animation is because of the changes in the visual style. See, in Z, the colors don't pop as much and the line quality leaves much to be desired. Of course, that quality picks up gradually and the drawings and inconsistencies don't appear to be as messy. Then again, I'm drawing more unfair comparisons because I never saw Dragon Ball Z in it's raw, Japanese form when it first aired; I'm assuming many of those inconsistencies have been cleaned up. Here we have Super: it's been about 20 years and the visuals saw an upgrade, which is natural. We have colors that pop more and the line work is digital/vector-based. Keeping that in mind, it is likely much easier to catch everything wrong with it.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:55 pm

The changes in the animation of EP5 may not be that significant, but hey, it's at least something, so I'll take it. Beggars can't be choosers.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:05 pm

Polishing a turd still makes it a turd.

Unless they were gonna redo the whole episode from scratch, it was sort of a waste of time.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:18 pm

Looks fine to me, more or less matches the rest of the show now.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Retan » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:28 pm

Great; but is the new version the one where Goku has three pecks? Still doesn't really match up to the rest of the show, but an improvement is an improvement.


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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Ajay » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:42 pm

Retan wrote:Great; but is the new version the one where Goku has three pecks?
It's not a third pec, but it is a little odd. They've done it for decades, and I'm still not 100% sure what exactly it's meant to be. I guess it's meant to be a way of fusing the arm to the torso? Not sure.

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It looks worse in the redraw because his entire chest is drawn at the wrong angle compared to the way he's moving.
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