The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Pocket-God » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:21 pm

pacz360 wrote:Buuhan vs super baby vegeta 1
General rildo vs kid buu
Gt pan vs android 18
Gt uub vs fat buu.
Buuhan < super baby vegeta 1
General rildo < kid buu
Gt pan < android 18
Gt uub < fat bu

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pacz360 wrote:Buuhan vs super baby vegeta 1
General rildo vs kid buu
Gt pan vs android 18
Gt uub vs fat buu.
You're vastly underestimating GT.

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Post by pacz360 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:37 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Buuhan vs super baby vegeta 1
General rildo vs kid buu
Gt pan vs android 18
Gt uub vs fat buu.
You're vastly underestimating GT.
My bad then man who you think wins these wanna give your reasons i ain't gonna judge.

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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:49 pm

pacz360 wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Buuhan vs super baby vegeta 1
General rildo vs kid buu
Gt pan vs android 18
Gt uub vs fat buu.
You're vastly underestimating GT.
My bad then man who you think wins these wanna give your reasons i ain't gonna judge.

Rildo is said to be above Buu,which oviously means at his best, so Rildo. Also When goku said that rildo was STILL surpressed.

GT pan. She's above suppressed rildo as you saw her put him on his ass.

GT uub because because he was trained to be on par with base goku GT and Adult base gt goku>kid gt base Goku>base rildo>kid buu and buuhan>>>fat buu
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:53 pm

Muten Roshi, Chi-Chi, Cyborg Tao, and Yajirobe vs. Tekkenverse
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:06 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Yajirobe
How many planets can your average Tekkenverse character destroy? Because Yaj is much more powerful than people who explicitly can put that level of power into their blasts... and durability... and physical blows.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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DBZAOTA482 wrote:Muten Roshi, Chi-Chi, Cyborg Tao, and Yajirobe vs. Tekkenverse
Yajirobe solos.

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Post by Hugo Boss » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:36 am

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Rildo is said to be above Buu,which oviously means at his best, so Rildo. Also When goku said that rildo was STILL surpressed.

GT pan. She's above suppressed rildo as you saw her put him on his ass.
So, you believe Pan is actually stronger than Majin Boo? Because if Supressed Rildo is stronger than Majin Boo and Pan is stronger than Supressed Rildo..

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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:04 am

Hugo Boss wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Rildo is said to be above Buu,which oviously means at his best, so Rildo. Also When goku said that rildo was STILL surpressed.

GT pan. She's above suppressed rildo as you saw her put him on his ass.
So, you believe Pan is actually stronger than Majin Boo? Because if Supressed Rildo is stronger than Majin Boo and Pan is stronger than Supressed Rildo..

Yes I do. Here's why.

1. Her father is mystic gohan,that alone makes her born strong as all get out.

2. The GT perfect files stated Gohan kept up his training,so it's a Mystic Gohan that TRAINED!

3. She herself trained with Goku and company since being a child.

4. It's not hard to fathom since Krillin went from being a Joke and 1 shot to Goku and Piccolo to being able to Kill a handful of green monsters on the same level as the guy who 1 shotted Goku and Coulda done it to Piccolo.....and he did that with 1 attack. The rate fighters get stronger in by training is HUGE (excluding super where they nerf Goku to keep him below Beerus)

So yes,Pan could beat ANY buu from Z. When Rildo isn't suppressed though he can 1 shot her with ease. That's what happens when you go from 1 saga to another,and when you jump series the power gaps are ridiculous.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Darkprince410 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:13 pm

1. Her father is mystic gohan,that alone makes her born strong as all get out.
Why would that matter? Strength hasn't exactly been shown to be something that could be passed down, as Goten and Trunks' strength was established to be due to being born as tailless hybrids, not due to how strong their parents were at the time of conception or anything. I mean, if it were hereditary, then Goten should have had a huge head start over Trunks, given that Vegeta didn't have two years under his belt of the Room of Spirit and Time (and potentially hadn't even transformed into a Super Saiya-jin yet) by the time Trunks was conceived, whereas Goten was conceived well after Goku had transformed for the first time, and likely (though there's wiggle room on the subject) had spent his time in the Room of Spirit and Time before.

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Darkprince410 wrote:
1. Her father is mystic gohan,that alone makes her born strong as all get out.
Why would that matter? Strength hasn't exactly been shown to be something that could be passed down, as Goten and Trunks' strength was established to be due to being born as tailless hybrids, not due to how strong their parents were at the time of conception or anything. I mean, if it were hereditary, then Goten should have had a huge head start over Trunks, given that Vegeta didn't have two years under his belt of the Room of Spirit and Time (and potentially hadn't even transformed into a Super Saiya-jin yet) by the time Trunks was conceived, whereas Goten was conceived well after Goku had transformed for the first time, and likely (though there's wiggle room on the subject) had spent his time in the Room of Spirit and Time before.
To be fair, Trunks had a far stronger master than Goten.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:18 pm

SSj Gotenks (pre-ROSAT) vs. Pikkon

Who wins?
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:23 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj Gotenks (pre-ROSAT) vs. Paikuhan

Who wins?
Pikkon gets slaughtered.

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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:32 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj Gotenks (pre-ROSAT) vs. Paikuhan

Who wins?
Pikkon wins with ease.
Darkprince410 wrote:
1. Her father is mystic gohan,that alone makes her born strong as all get out.
Why would that matter? Strength hasn't exactly been shown to be something that could be passed down, as Goten and Trunks' strength was established to be due to being born as tailless hybrids, not due to how strong their parents were at the time of conception or anything. I mean, if it were hereditary, then Goten should have had a huge head start over Trunks, given that Vegeta didn't have two years under his belt of the Room of Spirit and Time (and potentially hadn't even transformed into a Super Saiya-jin yet) by the time Trunks was conceived, whereas Goten was conceived well after Goku had transformed for the first time, and likely (though there's wiggle room on the subject) had spent his time in the Room of Spirit and Time before.

Goten and trunks are stronger then gohan when he was born not for being tail less, they weren't even born tail less. They had to have been cut off in universe. Why do you think future trunks as an 17 year old<kid trunks as a 8 year old before even buu came to be? Because the vegeta that banged bulma was stronger.

We don't know who transformed first,that's another assumption man. And we don't know who was born stronger. It was probably Goten. because trunks trains harder,and longer then gotten who barely spares with chichi, who is MUCH MUC HMUCH inferior to vegeta,not to mention he has extra gravity as a boost. So Goten had to have been born stronger, Trunks just trains harder. His being stronger and more relevant moved into GT.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj Gotenks (pre-ROSAT) vs. Paikuhan

Who wins?
Gotenks finger-flicks.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:25 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj Gotenks (pre-ROSAT) vs. Paikuhan

Who wins?
Gotenks finger-flicks.

Pikkon damaged kid buu,Gotenks ssj3 psot roast couldn't do that.

Mystic Gohan Vs super buu base+ssj3 gotenks (No dicking around)

Golden Frieza Vs beerus (Frieza is weaker but by not that much % wise and he's a dirty fighter)

Buuhan Golden Frieza absorbed Vs SSjgod Goku and or Vegeta
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LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj Gotenks (pre-ROSAT) vs. Paikuhan

Who wins?
Gotenks finger-flicks.

Paikuhan damaged kid buu,Gotenks ssj3 psot roast couldn't do that.
Pikkon damaging Kid Buu never happened. And SSJ3 Gotenks kicked Super Buu ass and Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu.
Mystic Gohan Vs super buu base+ssj3 gotenks (No dicking around)

Golden Freeza Vs beerus (Freeza is weaker but by not that much % wise and he's a dirty fighter)

Buuhan Golden Freeza absorbed Vs SSjgod Goku and or Vegeta
- Super Boo is a non factor is that fight as Gohan could one-shot him. So it's really just a case of Gohan vs SSJ3 Gotenks, and I have Gohan coming out on top.
- Beerus still slaughters Golden Freeza.
- Buuhan absorbing Golden Freeza is not really needed as Golden Freeza was kicking SSJB Goku's ass in ROF, and SSJB is superior form to SSJG.

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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:31 pm

Beerus I think you missed the point buu can do a LOT with his power, I mean he can heal,stretch,use so much power without fatigue thanks to healing,turn you into candy. And also it was to see if he could win vs them alone and both.

Also I think gohan would have trouble with those 2,as buu's healing and gohan's cockiness wouldn't have him go down so easily.

Frieza also woulda lost to goku if not for sorbet,so it makes you wonder if buuhan eating frieza would nab a win.
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LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:

Goten and trunks are stronger then gohan when he was born not for being tail less, they weren't even born tail less. They had to have been cut off in universe. Why do you think future trunks as an 17 year old<kid trunks as a 8 year old before even buu came to be? Because the vegeta that banged bulma was stronger.

We don't know who transformed first,that's another assumption man. And we don't know who was born stronger. It was probably Goten. because trunks trains harder,and longer then gotten who barely spares with chichi, who is MUCH MUC HMUCH inferior to vegeta,not to mention he has extra gravity as a boost. So Goten had to have been born stronger, Trunks just trains harder. His being stronger and more relevant moved into GT.
Toriyama said that Goten and Trunks were born tailless in his interview for the North American release of Shonen Jump.
(9) Why don't Goten and Trunks have tails?

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It seems that tails are a recessive genetic trait
So there is Toriyama giving his reason why Goten and Trunks don't have tails, because they genetically didn't have them. If they had simply been cut off, then there's no reason to bring genetics up. However, he did, thus the only logical thing that can be taken from it is that they were born without them.

As for why present timeline Trunks was stronger than his future counterpart, he had Goten to practice training and sparring with at an extremely young age, whereas Future Trunks only Gohan, who was far weaker than Goten was.

Trunks had already transformed prior to any kind of gravity training with Vegeta, much less any real kind of training with Vegeta at all. His own strength came from his training and play fighting with Goten, as well as the both of them being born as tailless hybrids.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Mystic Gohan Vs super buu base+ssj3 gotenks (No dicking around)

Golden Freeza Vs beerus (Freeza is weaker but by not that much % wise and he's a dirty fighter)

Buuhan Golden Freeza absorbed Vs SSjgod Goku and or Vegeta

Mystic Gohan Vs super buu base+ssj3 gotenks: Gonna give it to the team

Golden Freeza Vs beerus: Could go either way really but i'm leaning towards frieza

Buuhan Golden Freeza absorbed Vs SSjgod Goku and or Vegeta: Gold Buuhanza One-shots them both

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