The worst change and the best change

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:04 pm

shannarafan wrote:
mAcChaos wrote:As for the other two, I liked all of it. I wouldn't change any of it. Everything added to the series a bit. Not counting Garlic Jr...
I agree, though I did miss those characters that were written out (Lunch, 16, Mai, etc.)... and I actually like the Garlic Jr. saga. *rifle shot*

Duo wrote:Best: Trunks slaughtering Freeza like a rag doll.
You not like Freeza?

I thought it was a shame for him to be taken out like that... talk about a humiliating defeat.

I liked Freeza, but I just wanted him to die.

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 3:53 pm

ChaotixXero wrote:Vegeta died twice too. Once on Namek and another against Majin Boo.

Oh when I meant that I meant Goku was the hero that died twice and was supposed to stay dead. Goku had passed the touch to Gohan two times and Goku still ends up saving the day.

Rocketman wrote:He was destroyed when he let his Barrier down.

He was separated, not "destroyed". The anime made an "attempt" at showing Vegetto in pain; the manga was a few chapters of Buu getting raped.

Duo wrote:I liked Freeza, but I just wanted him to die.

Freeza should've died but not like that..(This reminds me of that scene in the first Matrix with Apoc(?) "Not like this, not like this")
-Rick

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:17 pm

Why? Don't like Gohan being in the spotlight?

No I meant to say I hate people that bitch about the post Namek sagas.

shannarafan · Post by **shannarafan** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:24 pm

Mr. Piccolo wrote:Look at my previous post, shannarafan.

I did, but I had to say it again anyway.

Mr. Piccolo wrote:God, your avatar is too good. Seriously.

Thank you, thank you. *bows*

I just wish I'd made it myself.

Duo wrote:I liked Freeza, but I just wanted him to die.

Ah, okay. That's understandable, I suppose.

GI_Judd2287 · Post by **GI_Judd2287** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:25 pm

Best change: Making it more serious from the Piccolo Daimao saga onwards.

Worst change: Almost completely ignoring Tenshinhan and Yamcha after the Saiyans arrived.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:04 pm

Victator Supreme wrote:
Why? Don't like Gohan being in the spotlight?
No I meant to say I hate people that bitch about the post Namek sagas.

That clears a lot of things up because there are people saying that it's good as well as a lot saying it's bad. So I was like "WTF, mates?"

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:19 pm

Also I think Freeza had the greatest death in the history of anything. First he was cut in half, the halves cut into pieces, then the pieces were incinerated.

nwoo_2002 · Post by **nwoo_2002** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:27 pm

Best Change: Making the Tenkaichi Budokai a common occurance in Dragon Ball.

Worst Change: Giving Krillin hair. (There I said it)

chibi_goten · Post by **chibi_goten** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:16 am

Best Change: Gohan when he grew some balls and went totally bad ass when fighting Cell.

Worst Change: World Tournament Saga, when he changed back

Best Change: When he regrew his balls and fought Buu.

Worst Change: When he said he ''wouldn't'' be fighting in the tournament.... bye, bye cool Gohan...

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:48 am

Mr.Piccolo wrote:-Goku.. planet explodes and he dies, scratch that, sees a Ginyu spacecraft the last minute..

Why do people always find this impossible. Five spacepods landed right next to Frieza's spaceship, it's not luck that he found one when trying to take-off with Frieza's ship.

Gaiash · Post by **Gaiash** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:23 pm

My best and worst changes start with the Buu Saga.

Best: The fact that Buu changed personality in each form he took.
Worst: Characters like Gotenks, Gohan and Vegetto were all set up seeming to be the one to bring an end to Buu but get absorbed and Buu was eventually killed by a Spirit Bomb.

End of Z/Start of GT

Best: Gohan's glasses.
Worst: Gohan's new personality.

GT

Best: Vegeta's facial hair.
Worst: The rest of Vegeta's hair, The fact Uub never won against anyone despite being Buu reincarnated and the fact Goku was the only one who took down a major villian (Everyone else just got weaker DBZ Henchmen and the Red Ribbon Army with no trouble).

Squidovski · Post by **Squidovski** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:47 pm

Best: The change to a darker style of storytelling in the Piccolo Daimou arc. I prefer DB to DBZ, but I'm glad the series got rid of the 'Goku has wacky adventures, trains, then fights new rival in world tournament' format before it got stale.

Worst: The way Tenshinhan was useless post-DB. Yamcha had good roles throughout all of DB, but Ten was only prominent in the 22nd World Tournament and the Piccolo Daimou arc. After that he became one of the many 'friends' in the phrase 'Goku and Friends'.

ChaotixXero · Post by **ChaotixXero** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:08 pm

Ten's not useless, he saved Piccolo( I think it was Piccolo) from Cell and saved Gohan(or Gotenks, I forgot) from Buu.

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:41 pm

Pieter wrote:
Mr.Piccolo wrote:-Goku.. planet explodes and he dies, scratch that, sees a Ginyu spacecraft the last minute..
Why do people always find this impossible. Five spacepods landed right next to Freeza's spaceship, it's not luck that he found one when trying to take-off with Freeza's ship.

The fact that he finds a ship the last minute, boards it, fires it up, and is far enough from the planet's explosion in the span of.. ten seconds.

I find that very odd even for Dragonball...
-Rick

Victator Supreme · Post by **Victator Supreme** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:45 pm

Then I advice you give up on Dragonball or any form science/adventure fiction.

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:04 pm

Victator Supreme wrote:Then I advice you give up on Dragonball or any form science/adventure fiction.

Yeah..when the hero is in an epic battle against probably the most powerful fighter in the universe, he has time to plan out reviving and evacuating the people to planet across the universe, give time to his opponent to go full power, and then fight some more. The hero then walks away commenting that he can barely make it if he leaves then. But guess what?

He has to fight again and give his opponent power only to have one last power struggle. After that, he searches for a ship and finds out that it is unable to fly. So as the planet is exploding and he screams that he can't stop it, he has time to find an undamaged ship in all of this chaos, board it, and escape the planet's explosion. Mind you, this is in the span of five minutes. I don't care if its what genre it is, that is stretched way too thin.
-Rick

b_boult · Post by **b_boult** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:27 pm

Edit: deleted because I've actually gone really off topic

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:56 pm

Mr.Piccolo wrote: Mind you, this is in the span of five minutes. I don't care if its what genre it is, that is stretched way too thin.
-Rick

8 minutes in the manga if I'm correct

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:31 pm

Pieter wrote:
Mr.Piccolo wrote: Mind you, this is in the span of five minutes. I don't care if its what genre it is, that is stretched way too thin.
-Rick
8 minutes in the manga if I'm correct

More or less. And the way it's paced in the Manga brings no unrealism to the situation either.

Menardi · Post by **Menardi** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:52 pm

Best: Probably the whole Cell Saga
Worst: Almost all characters in GT, especially Trunks, Gohan, Goten and Vegeta..they all sucked in GT

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