ABED wrote:He was skilled but he's not on par with Vegeta, not even Goku was. Yajirobe played an integral role in Vegeta's defeat that suited the character.
He doesn't have to be on par with them. Yajirobe already showed himself as an expert swordsman in DB yet in DBZ his movement shows a total lack of refinement and he was never depicted as lazy or cowardice prior to DBZ. Even in the dub for DB, he was like "I'm not a coward".
And yes, compared to us, Chichi would be amazing, but compared to Goku and the others, especially after becoming a mother and not training, she wouldn't be as powerful in comparison.
She doesn't have to be as powerful as Goku, Piccolo, Krillin, Yamcha, or Tien. The fact she already demonstrated herself as naturally (freakishly) strong and skilled, and even got so much stronger as she did in such a relatively short amount of time shows she could become a fairly powerful human Z-Warrior (or at least more relevant than Chiaotzu) under the right circumstances.
It's not like she was
that far behind them either. Goku, Krillin, and Yamcha were already quite impressed by her in the prelims (or at least Krillin was).
Which doesn't say much as the prelims weren't full of an overabundance of great fighters.
The 23rd Budokai was back when the TB had legit competitors (ya know, the legit best of the best across the planet) and the 23rd TB was the most decisive one of them all. Goku and Krillin prior to the Turtle Hermit training wouldn't have made it past the prelims (Roshi even says so).
Goku had no trouble defeating her in the tournament.
Only after he agreed to "propose" and used a shockwave technique that Kami taught him (something of which Roshi had a bit of trouble comprehending) in order to beat her. She did well under the circumstances and possibly could have won if both were serious from the start. She never even expected to lose that easily.
Besides, Goku outclassed everyone at the tournament to a ridiculous degree aside from Piccolo. Even Tien, who gave Goku the battle of his life at the 22nd Budokai, was defeated with relative ease and Goku didn't use full force.
He wasn't fighting serious and was more concerned with figuring out who she was than what it took to defeat her.
Goku wasn't 100% serious, no doubt but the fact she had him on the defensive just from avoiding her attacks suggests she's quite beastly in terms of power and skill (she even matched his casual 50+ meter jump to avoid her elbow in mid-action). It's also worth noting her performance against Goku was treated as more impressive than Tao's against Tien who was nearly forced into giving up so he wouldn't get humiliated and couldn't even touch Tien without his weapons.
That's not an issue he's ever worried about before. It crops up out of nowhere.
Like I said, his powers are worlds above from how it was years ago and it was the first time he ever truly acknowledged his rage boosts (other times, it was only in short bursts). It's simply character development.
rereboy wrote:Like I already told you, that's not what I meant. You misunderstood me.
That's quite literally what you said.
Has Gohan ever destroyed or injured anyone that he didn't want to due to his rage boosts? Has he or anyone ever showed any signs that it could happen and that it was worrisome? Does Gohan choose to tackle the issue for the first time ever right as he is about to fight a planetary threat regarding which he has no choice but to give it his all or Earth would be destroyed, as well as his friends, family and himself? Then, it does come out of nowhere just to add some shallow tension before Gohan transforms.
.... You're one broken record, are you?
