Kimitoshi Chioka is ruining Dragon Ball

[Hellspawn28]

She's been the creative director for dragon ball anime since "Goku and his friends return!" OVA and that was lame and not badass like classic DBZ and it's been the same ever since. The tone has been lost, tension is a thing of the past, there's too much fillerish and childish comic relief that is nothing but cringe worthy and everything just lacks "testosterone" like the old DBZ stuff. She definitely isn't no Hiromu Arakawa.

ROF had a lot of action in it and had a more serious tone then BOG did. Episode of Bardock had little to gags in the series. Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans 2010 still kept a serious tone in it too. People act like Son Goku and His Friends Return was the start of Dragon Ball being childish when GT came out years before it felt like it was much water down compare to DBZ. GT felt like it was market to a younger audience compare to DBZ given how GT was much tamer compare to DBZ.

[Nex Carnifex]

I stand corrected, the stuff females have written for DBZ in the past have been better than this and this guy is a man. So I guess it has nothing to do with gender at all.

[Doctor.]

Chioka isn't writing anything. Super is following the films that were both written by Toriyama himself. Sure, it's changing some things here and there, but the majority is the same as what Toriyama envisioned.

Also, calling the people working on the series "wussy men" is disgusting.

[Hellspawn28]

Toriyama wrote Dragon Ball as a gang manga and didn't become serious until Piccolo Daimao show up. I think Toriyama likes writing light heart humor with funny jokes and humor. People wanted the series to return back to it's roots and they got their wish. Now they hate it. The series already went to a light heart direction and being more childish before Toriyama return back to the series. The Buu saga and GT was pretty campy in my opinion.

[Black_Liger]

Toriyama wrote Dragon Ball as a gang manga and didn't become serious until Piccolo Daimao show up. I think Toriyama likes writing light heart humor with funny jokes and humor. People wanted the series to return back to it's roots and they got their wish. Now they hate it. The series already went to a light heart direction and being more childish before Toriyama return back to the series. The Buu saga and GT was pretty campy in my opinion.

DBZ was never too serious, but it was definitely not as held back as it is now, it had plenty of violence that made a beautiful contrast to the humor and lighthearted scenes. Like the Ginyu force, they were childish, funny, but when it came down to it, they were sadist bastards. Heck Reecome was able to break a child's neck with no remorse. In that manner, I do not understand why people say DBZ was always freaking serious, since we had ginyu force back in what's arguably one of the darkest arcs in dbz. But I still stand that what made DB what it was is the balance between humor, dark and sometimes even gore.

DB super is already crossing a bit towards classic dbz with F arc, since Frieza actually tortured Gohan.

[coola]

Or in Buu Saga, despite childish villain and over all comedic tone, we got very dark moments, like shooting down elderly couple and puppy dog for funsies Dragon Ball was always a mixture of comedy and seriousness.

[Nex Carnifex]

Or in Buu Saga, despite childish villain and over all comedic tone, we got very dark moments, like shooting down elderly couple and puppy dog for funsies Dragon Ball was always a mixture of comedy and seriousness.

indeed, even GT had serious hardcore shit like when baby drags vegeta's face through concrete and killed a bunch of people in his parasite form. Or when Vegeta gets graphically impaled by Omega Shenron's spikes and electrocuted.

[Hellspawn28]

Vegeta getting stab by Super Yi Xing Long's spike is the most violent moment in GT. Everything else in GT was tame compare to DBZ. In Super, there is still violent moments like Gohan being shot to death by Freeza's beams and we see it in full detail. We also saw Tagoma getting pounded on by Frieza. Super may lack some of the darker stuff that DBZ had, but it still has it's dark moments so far.

[DBZAOTA482]

The 2008 special was great. It was a one-shot special and the first new "episode" in over a decade that reunited the cast and gave Goten/Trunks some focus. What is not to like about that?

This.

Also, Super is nothing but a bunch of clown shoes. BoG was a great comeback for the series but RoF marked the beginning of the end.

[Lord Beerus]

Well, I immensely enjoyed the 2008 OVA. I thought it had great action, really good humour, the character interactions were very Toriyama-esque. In my opiion that special felt more like a true extension of the original Dragon Ball story than GT was and most of Super has been.

[precita]

It probably helped the 2008 special was only 45 minutes, so it didn't overstay its welcome or have too much padding to get boring.

Fit in very well with the past specials like the Bardock and Trunks ones too. Or even the GT special.

[JulieYBM]

Chioka Kimitoshi is the one on the left, wearing the glasses.



He's a man.

Chioka's only involvement with Dragon Ball has been as a storyboard artist for Dragon Ball Z: Kami to Kami in 2013 and series director of Dragon Ball Super. He hasn't even had the chance to personally storyboard or direct a single episode of Dragon Ball Super, either. Chioka is one of Toei Animation's last remaining good directors, able to make dialogue scenes fascinating visually through his choice of camera angles and choices of what to show and when to show it. His fight scenes are also excitingly shot and generate a sense of environment and three dimensional form. The guy is the best thing to happen to Dragon Ball in twenty years.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Too bad Chioka haven't had any chance to personally handle an episode. The fault goes to terrible production scheduling. Had they planned ahead of time before they announced the series, these negative tirades from the fans wouldn't have existed.

I'm hoping he would at least do one episode of the next arc. Dragon Ball Super is going to run for as long as Toei wants. There will be several more arcs after the next, so Chioka will personally handle at least several episodes overall. If they are going to give the Universe 6 arc a good impression, they will improve planning and scheduling to give animation spotlights. Tate is going to do his utmost best to give his episodes in the next arc the best it can be. Hopefully Shimanuki reinvents himself to become a top tier animator he used to be. Yamamuro should at least handle a few episodes as well.

[JulieYBM]

With any luck Chioka will at least storyboard Episode #28, given it's the beginning of the much anticipated Champa arc.