The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Hugo Boss]

Yakon doesn't know how to fight, and freeza has lot of awesome techniques.

Yakon doesn't know how to feel energy, but if he didn't know at least how to fight I don't think Babidi would pick him up.

[DanielSSJ]

New battles: (NOTE: all battles on indestructible planet)

1. CG gohan + one cell Jr vs goku, piccolo, trunks , vegeta (No SS2)

2. Kami vs BoZ tenshinhan

3. Cyborg tao vs Yajirobe (first appearance)

4. DBM Gauntlet for beerus (can go upto 100%)
- Cell U17 + All of U18
- U4 Buu + U11 buu + dabura
- U16 Vegetto SS3 + U20 Broly LSS + U7 Gast
- Super piccolo (namekian fusion of U16 piccolo, U18 Piccolo & U3 Daimao)
- Ultimate Buu (U4 buu absorbs everyone at their full power, except XXI)
- Super ultra namekian [Gast namekian fusion with Super piccolo (see above) & cell]

5. Whis vs potara fusion of Beerus & Champa

1. As long as Gohan nad Cell Jr. can take out Goku quickly, this should be easy.
2. Kami takes it with some difficulty.
3. Tao Pai Pai takes it, if only because he can use Ki and Yajirobe can't.
4. Beerus smashes through these guys like tissue paper.
5. Assuming God ki doesn't mess with the potara, Beerus/Champa fusion stomps.

[GodVegetto91]

RoF SSGSS Vegetto Vs Whis.

Match 2: RoF Saiyan Beyond God(Base) Vegetto Vs Whis.

This is when their training was done (post 4 months for Goku) and when they head back to earth to fight Frieza.

[Lord Beerus]

RoF SSGSS Vegetto Vs Whis.

Match 2: RoF Saiyan Beyond God(Base) Vegetto Vs Whis.

(This is when their training was done (post 4 months for Goku) and when they head back to earth to fight Freeza.

Vegetto wins both of those matches with the greatest of ease. The difference of whether Vegetto is a SSJB or SBG is a non-factor as the difference in strength between SSJB and SBG is minimal at best.

[Pocket-God]

RoF SSGSS Vegetto Vs Whis.

Match 2: RoF Saiyan Beyond God(Base) Vegetto Vs Whis.

(This is when their training was done (post 4 months for Goku) and when they head back to earth to fight Freeza.

Vegetto wins both of those matches with the greatest of ease. The difference of whether Vegetto is a SSJB or SBG is a non-factor as the difference in strength between SSJB and SBG is minimal at best.

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[DBZAOTA482]

Chiaotzu (22nd Budokai) vs. Tao Pai Pai

[ZombieVito]

Chiaotzu (22nd Budokai) vs. Tao Pai Pai

Chiaotzu wins very easily.

[Noah]

Chiaotzu (22nd Budokai) vs. Tao Pai Pai

Chiaotzu wins very easily.

How? Wasn't he defeated easily by Cyborg Tao in 23rd TB?

[ZombieVito]

Chiaotzu (22nd Budokai) vs. Tao Pai Pai

Chiaotzu wins very easily.

How? Wasn't he defeated easily by Cyborg Tao in 23rd TB?

But this is regular Tao.

[GodVegetto91]

RoF SSGSS Vegetto Vs Whis.

Match 2: RoF Saiyan Beyond God(Base) Vegetto Vs Whis.

(This is when their training was done (post 4 months for Goku) and when they head back to earth to fight Freeza.

Vegetto wins both of those matches with the greatest of ease. The difference of whether Vegetto is a SSJB or SBG is a non-factor as the difference in strength between SSJB and SBG is minimal at best.

Yes i believe even a SBG Vegetto would win against Whis. (In terms of brute strength) but keep in mind that Whis has perfect skill and is litterally always on guard. He can even turn back time if need be.
He has the ability to have "each and every part of his body to move, think and react on it's own." So he can move instantly without any time to waste on thinking. And remember it takes time for signals to pass from your senses to your brain and from your brain back to your body.. That way A LOT of time has been lost. And Whis doesn't have that limitation. While Vegetto still needs to think when moving.

[nickzambuto]

Grandpa Gohan vs Master Roshi?

This is one I've always wondered about. Did Gohan ever surpass his master? Who was the real strongest man in the world, before Krillin and Co. went Super Saiyan?

[Khin]

Its been a while since i made some matches


- Kaioshin vs. Tagoma (DBS)

- Zarbon (Beautiful) and Dodoria vs. Tagoma (Pre Training) and Shisami (DBS)

- Good Boo (DBS) vs. Ginyu-Tagoma (DBS)

- Dabra vs. LSSj Broli (Movie 8 )

- SSjG Goku (DBS) vs. Final Form Freeza (DBS)

- Champa vs. True Form Demigra (Xenoverse)

- 1,000 Freeza soldiers (DBS) vs. Vegeta (Saiyan Saga),Nappa and Raditz

- Saibaman vs. Cell Jr. (Equal Power)

- Kibitoshin vs. Super Perfect Cell

- Kibitoshin vs. South Kaioshin (Anime)

[BlackMagick]

Its been a while since i made some matches


- Kaioshin vs. Tagoma (DBS)

- Zarbon (Beautiful) and Dodoria vs. Tagoma (Pre Training) and Shisami (DBS)

- Good Boo (DBS) vs. Ginyu-Tagoma (DBS)

- Dabra vs. LSSj Broli (Movie 8 )

- SSjG Goku (DBS) vs. Final Form Freeza (DBS)

- Champa vs. True Form Demigra (Xenoverse)

- 1,000 Freeza soldiers (DBS) vs. Vegeta (Saiyan Saga),Nappa and Raditz

- Saibaman vs. Cell Jr. (Equal Power)

- Kibitoshin vs. Super Perfect Cell

- Kibitoshin vs. South Kaioshin (Anime)

Pretty interesting...

1) Kaioshin vs. Tagoma: My money is on Tagoma. While they probably have comparable battle powers, Kaioshin isn't much of a fighter, so Tagoma probably has the edge.

2) Zarbon and Dodoria vs. Tagoma and Shisami: It's another close one...I'll give it to Tagoma and Shisami only because Shisami was able to pull a good fight out of current-tier Piccolo in RoF.

3) Good Boo vs. Ginyu-Tagoma: I think Good Boo has edge in strength and his regeneration plays a huge factor too. Boo would probably win.

4) Dabra vs. LSSJ Broly: Wow, that one is an interesting fight. See, if it were Movie 10 Broly, then I'd hand it to him, but since their power levels are very similar if you consider Movie 8, then I say Dabra has the edge with magical ability and skill. While Broly is strong, he is not really a skilled fighter.

5) SSJG Goku vs. Final Form Freeza: Easy. Goku takes it, no sweat. He was trashing Freeza as a Saiyan Beyond God, which is roughly as strong as SSJG or maybe even a tad weaker.

6) Champa vs. Demigra: No way to really tell, but I'd like to think that Champa would win. Champa is about as strong as Beerus, probably. Demigra wasn't powerful enough to control Beerus in Xennoverse so he's likely not stronger.

7) 1,000 Freeza Soldiers vs. Saiyans: I'll give it to the 1,000 soldiers only because I don't definitely don't think Raditz would be able to handle too many of them, maybe not Nappa either. Vegeta could probably take the bulk of them but I feel like they'd tire out.

Saibaman vs. Cell Jr.: I'm assuming the Cell Jrs fight similarly to Cell and probably have his battle habits, tactics, and quirks, which I also assume is greater than that of a Saibaman.

9) Kibitoshin vs Super Perfect Cell: Super Perfect Cell, of course. I never thought the fusion ever made Kaioshin THAT much more powerful.

10) This one...I don't know. I can't remember the filler arcs.

[Hugo Boss]

SSJG Goku vs. Final Form Freeza: Easy. Goku takes it, no sweat. He was trashing Freeza as a Saiyan Beyond God, which is roughly as strong as SSJG or maybe even a tad weaker.

As far as Dragon Ball Super is, Goku has the power of a Super Saiyan God as a Super Saiyan, not in his normal form.

[Lord Beerus]

Grandpa Gohan vs Master Roshi?

This is one I've always wondered about. Did Gohan ever surpass his master? Who was the real strongest man in the world, before Krillin and Co. went Super Saiyan?

I reckon Master Roshi far surpassed his mentor by the time he reached his older years, so I'm backing Master Roshi.

[supercat]

And what's stopping Buu from turning Freeza into a Snickers again? I feel like that's a far more likely outcome than Freeza managing to Death Ball him, assuming that would even work.

Given Buu's track record and obsessive lust for battle, I'm apt to believe that he would initially engage in hand to hand combat before even considering the usage of metamorphosis-inducing abilities.

Goku merely sat a tier above Kid Buu, yet apparently possessed the capability to secure victory with a single blast; I'm pretty confident that Freeza, one of the most impressive users of ki-based attacks could do the same with a devastating force like the Death Ball.

My guess is that the two would start things off with a clash of physical attacks and an occasional exchange of ki blasts. Buu being the more reckless fighter of the two would likely play the role of a punching bag while going through enough rounds of regeneration for Freeza to catch on and kick it up a notch with his ki exertion.

A clash of physical attacks in which Buu would be unscathed and Freeza hurt. That tends to happen when one has essentially infinite stamina and virtually unlimited regeneration.

The majority of Freeza's attacks are totally ineffectual against Buu. Buu doesn't care if he gets sliced in half, or pierced. And I'm not convinced that a Death Ball would do any more than blow Buu to pieces, which, again, he doesn't care about. A Death Ball is not a Genki Dama, nor have Freeza's ki amplification abilities been particularly impressive. Besides, Buu can do the exact same thing, and, depending on the Buu, is more apt to just open up with that than Freeza.

Finally, Buu simply has way more insta-kill attacks than Freeza. He could absorb him, turn him to candy, fly down his throat and make him explode, constrict him, or just mimic Freeza's attacks back at him, after Freeza tries cutting him in half with a Kienzan.

You keep bringing up Freeza's skills, but they are completely irrelevant here. You can't win a fistfight with Buu when you are on the same level as him, and Freeza's techniques aren't the kind that would actually threaten Buu. And for the one attack that might, might, prove a threat, Buu has at least two ways that would instantly win the fight for him, and neither require any kind of charge-up time on his part. Hell, one of the smarter Buus can just leave a piece of him lying over by a rock somewhere just in case Freeza gets lucky.

And is that why SSJ3 Goku felt that he could muster up just enough energy to completely wipe Buu out? Not to mention the only reason we never saw such a finale was because he allowed the fight to drag on?

[Lunatic Fringe]

#16 vs. #17, #18, Imperfect Cell, and Android Saga Piccolo(post-Kami fusion/pre-RoSaT training)

[nickzambuto]

#16 vs. #17, #18, Imperfect Cell, and Android Saga Piccolo(post-Kami fusion/pre-RoSaT training)

Well 16 and Cell were nearly dead even. Logic would state that having backup automatically gives Cell the advantage.

[Lunatic Fringe]

#16 vs. #17, #18, Imperfect Cell, and Android Saga Piccolo(post-Kami fusion/pre-RoSaT training)

Well 16 and Cell were nearly dead even. Logic would state that having backup automatically gives Cell the advantage.

I meant for Cell right when we see him debut. Not when he's gone and absorbed more humans before confronting Piccolo again.

[Kamiccolo9]

And is that why SSJ3 Goku felt that he could muster up just enough energy to completely wipe Buu out? Not to mention the only reason we never saw such a finale was because he allowed the fight to drag on?

And it turned out that Goku was wrong. And then Goku thought that the Genki Dama would be enough to destroy Buu on its own, and he was proven wrong when Buu started pushing it back.

Regardless, the only thing that could possibly have any real effect on Buu would be a Death Ball, and we've seen Buu take planet busting attacks to the face before. He did it to himself, remember? And he just reformed.

There is no way in Hell that Freeza is taking a Buu at equal powers (that's what this discussion was about, right? This topic is ancient, man.) He doesn't have what it takes. Anything that Freeza could do to Buu, Buu's taken already, and shrugged it off like it's nothing.