The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[KentalSSJ6]

This may be a oldie but I find it a goodie.

Multi-arc Vegetto gauntlet.

Saiyan Arc, allowed up to Kaio-Ken X4

Namek Arc (Goku has 3 million base and Vegeta at 250 thousand, which what he was before death right?) Kaio-Ken X 20 and/or SSJ allowed.

Cell Arc

How far into DBZ do you think which version gets?

[Kamiccolo9]

This may be a oldie but I find it a goodie.

Multi-arc Vegetto gauntlet.

Saiyan Arc, allowed up to Kaio-Ken X4

Namek Arc (Goku has 3 million base and Vegeta at 250 thousand, which what he was before death right?) Kaio-Ken X 20 and/or SSJ allowed.

Cell Arc

How far into DBZ do you think which version gets?

Vegeta was at least into the millions before his death in the Namek Arc, as he was stronger than Piccolo after recovering from Krillin blasting him through the chest.

Anyway, Saiyan Arc Vegetto clears anything up to Fat Buu with Kaio-Ken. The others clear the series, up till BoG.

[In Brightest Day]

Hello dudes:

- Future Android 17 vs. SSJ Son Goku and Piccolo (Android arc).
- Bardocks crew (Toma, Selypa, Totepo, Pambukin) vs. Freeza's henchmen from the beginning of Namek (Raspberry, Appule, etc.)
- Cyborg Tao vs. Yajirobe (23rd Budokai).
- Gurd vs. Bardock, Son Goku (Saiyan arc, no Kaioken) Nappa & King Vegeta.
- Maraikoh vs. Yakon.

[Draconic]

Hello dudes:

- Future Android 17 vs. SSJ Son Goku and Piccolo (Android arc).
- Bardocks crew (Toma, Selypa, Totepo, Pambukin) vs. Freeza's henchmen from the beginning of Namek (Raspberry, Appule, etc.)
- Cyborg Tao vs. Yajirobe (23rd Budokai).
- Gurd vs. Bardock, Son Goku (Saiyan arc, no Kaioken) Nappa & King Vegeta.
- Maraikoh vs. Yakon.

Goku and Piccolo take this. 17 might still be stronger,but the two have been shown to fight well together and since Future Gohan, who was weaker than Android arc Goku managed to survive both the Androids, I think the two take this but have a pretty tough time.

Bardock's crew takes this as long as Dodoria or anyone higher is not part of the fight. They destroy everyone except Ginyu if they can turn into Great Apes.

Tao no doubt about it. I can't see Yajirobe surviving a Super Dodonpa, or matching the assassin's speed.

The sayians easily. Gurd is a weakling and at least one of the guys other than Goku should know of his abilities. Nappa might have a little trouble, since he is the weakest and I don't think Gurd is THAT low, since he is in the Tokusentai and all, but I don't think he is higher than Bardock/Vegeta's 10000.

[DBZAOTA482]

Hello dudes:

- Future Android 17 vs. SSJ Son Goku and Piccolo (Android arc).
- Bardocks crew (Toma, Selypa, Totepo, Pambukin) vs. Freeza's henchmen from the beginning of Namek (Raspberry, Appule, etc.)
- Cyborg Tao vs. Yajirobe (23rd Budokai).
- Gurd vs. Bardock, Son Goku (Saiyan arc, no Kaioken) Nappa & King Vegeta.
- Maraikoh vs. Yakon.

-#17 wins through attrition
-Freeza's crew
-That's too much for Gurd to handle.. Team 2 definitely
-Yajirobe was implied to be nothing special by the 23rd Budokai while Krillin and Yamcha were scared of facing Tien after seeing how easily he one-shotted Tao implying they'd have to try much harder to beat him so... Tao stomps
-Maraokoh stomps

[GodVegetto91]

SSJG Goku vs. Final Form Freeza: Easy. Goku takes it, no sweat. He was trashing Freeza as a Saiyan Beyond God, which is roughly as strong as SSJG or maybe even a tad weaker.

As far as Dragon Ball Super is, Goku has the power of a Super Saiyan God as a Super Saiyan, not in his normal form.

This is not true. When Goku said that his Super Saiyan Form had the Power of a God. He was most likely refering to it's power source/ki source. They both posses godly ki now so it's probably based on that.
Their Base forms ARE ssj god level now.

[Hugo Boss]

If Episode #24 wasn't enough to convince you, you should consider watching Episode #25. Its first half is all about how Goku's new form is god-like.

[DanielSSJ]

This may be a oldie but I find it a goodie.

Multi-arc Vegetto gauntlet.

Saiyan Arc, allowed up to Kaio-Ken X4

Namek Arc (Goku has 3 million base and Vegeta at 250 thousand, which what he was before death right?) Kaio-Ken X 20 and/or SSJ allowed.

Cell Arc

How far into DBZ do you think which version gets?

My patented formula for Vegetto is (Goku + Vegeta) x 100, so...

Saiyan Arc Vegetto = (8,000 + 18,000) x 100 = 2,600,000
Kaio X4 Vegetto = 10,400,000 and stops at Final Form Freeza

Namek Arc Vegetto = (3,000,000 + 2,000,000ish) x 100 = 500,000,000
Kaio X20 Vegetto = 10,000,000,000 and stops at Fat Boo
SSJ Vegetto = 25,000,000,000 and stops at SSJ3 Goku

Cell Arc SSJ Vegetto (based on my power levels) = (3,000,000,000 + 1,800,000,000) x 100 = 480,000,000,000 and makes it past Boohan and stops at his own Boo Arc self.

[Khin]

Some couple fight for Babidi's henchmens.

- Pocus vs. Yamcha (Buu Arc)
- Pocus vs. Kuririn (Buu Arc)
- Yakon (On his home planet) vs. Base Gohan (Buu Arc)
- Yakon (On his home planet) vs. Base Goten and Trunks (Pre ROSAT)
- Dabra vs. Kibitoshin
- Dabra vs. Tagoma (DBS)

[DanielSSJ]

Some couple fight for Babidi's henchmens.

- Pocus vs. Yamcha (Buu Arc)
- Pocus vs. Kuririn (Buu Arc)
- Yakon (On his home planet) vs. Base Gohan (Buu Arc)
- Yakon (On his home planet) vs. Base Goten and Trunks (Pre ROSAT)
- Dabra vs. Kibitoshin
- Dabra vs. Tagoma (DBS)

- Yamcha wins with some difficulty.
- Kuririn stomps.
- Gohan wins with moderate difficulty.
- Individually, Goten and Trunks stand no chance. If the two of the gang up and don't dick around, they might be able to pull a win.
- I have Dabura only being slightly higher than Perfect Cell, before his Saiyan healing boost, whereas I have Kibitoshin a bit higher than SSJ2 Gohan, so Kibitoshin wins.
- If it's regular Tagoma, Dabura wins with difficulty. If it's Ginyu!Tagoma, Dabura get's wrecked.

[ZombieVito]

Some couple fight for Babidi's henchmens.

- Pocus vs. Yamcha (Buu Arc)
- Pocus vs. Kuririn (Buu Arc)
- Yakon (On his home planet) vs. Base Gohan (Buu Arc)
- Yakon (On his home planet) vs. Base Goten and Trunks (Pre ROSAT)
- Dabra vs. Kibitoshin
- Dabra vs. Tagoma (DBS)

Pocus decimates Yamcha.
Pocus beats Kuririn with small difficulty.
Yakon wins with medium difficulty.
If the kids fight well together they should win with high difficulty.
Kibitoshin should be able to take this with some difficulty if he isn't an idiot.
Dabura wins if this is regular Tagoma. If this is Ginyu then he gets finger flicked in a nano second.

[apex_pretador]

Grandpa Gohan vs Master Roshi?

This is one I've always wondered about. Did Gohan ever surpass his master? Who was the real strongest man in the world, before Krillin and Co. went Super Saiyan?

Roshi

RoF SSGSS Vegetto Vs Whis.

Match 2: RoF Saiyan Beyond God(Base) Vegetto Vs Whis.

This is when their training was done (post 4 months for Goku) and when they head back to earth to fight Freeza.

SSB Vegetto loses in a fight
SBG Vegetto gets one shot

Chiaotzu (22nd Budokai) vs. Tao Pai Pai

Easy win for chiaotzu

Its been a while since i made some matches


- Kaioshin vs. Tagoma (DBS)

- Zarbon (Beautiful) and Dodoria vs. Tagoma (Pre Training) and Shisami (DBS)

- Good Boo (DBS) vs. Ginyu-Tagoma (DBS)

- Dabra vs. LSSj Broli (Movie 8 )

- SSjG Goku (DBS) vs. Final Form Freeza (DBS)

- Champa vs. True Form Demigra (Xenoverse)

- 1,000 Freeza soldiers (DBS) vs. Vegeta (Saiyan Saga),Nappa and Raditz

- Saibaman vs. Cell Jr. (Equal Power)

- Kibitoshin vs. Super Perfect Cell

- Kibitoshin vs. South Kaioshin (Anime)

-Tagoma 1-shots

-Shisami solos

-Buu not only has a huge advantage in the abilities, but also huge power advantage. If he fights, he can solo 1000 soldiers + tagoma-ginyu & freeza needs to step up. However, this is ignoring body change

- Dabura spits on such trash

- SSG goku one-shots

- Vegeta creates artificial moon & we see a trio of ozarus trashing weaklings.

- Cell Jrs are children of cell, they are gonna win this.

- Kibitoshin.

- South kaioshin

#16 vs. #17, #18, Imperfect Cell, and Android Saga Piccolo(post-Kami fusion/pre-RoSaT training)

Ganging up on #16 won't work, he has infinite stamina. The only hope for team is a combined beam blast from cell & piccolo going all out while #16 is off guard due to #18 & #17 distracting him.

This may be a oldie but I find it a goodie.

Multi-arc Vegetto gauntlet.

Saiyan Arc, allowed up to Kaio-Ken X4

Namek Arc (Goku has 3 million base and Vegeta at 250 thousand, which what he was before death right?) Kaio-Ken X 20 and/or SSJ allowed.

Cell Arc

How far into DBZ do you think which version gets?

Saiyan arc vegetto? He can go ozaru & destroy anything upto 50% freeza. I can't see him getting all way up to 70-80 M even with ozaru. Him vs 50% freeza can go either way. If he can use KK on the top of ozaru, then he MAY, MAY be able to beat #18 & #17.

Namek arc - Vegeta was around 1.8 M pre death. If Vegetto can go SS or KK x20, he beats everyone except Super vegetto, & MAYBE buu-han.

Cell arc - stops at super vegetto.

Hello dudes:

- Future Android 17 vs. SSJ Son Goku and Piccolo (Android arc).
- Bardocks crew (Toma, Selypa, Totepo, Pambukin) vs. Freeza's henchmen from the beginning of Namek (Raspberry, Appule, etc.)
- Cyborg Tao vs. Yajirobe (23rd Budokai).
- Gurd vs. Bardock, Son Goku (Saiyan arc, no Kaioken) Nappa & King Vegeta.
- Maraikoh vs. Yakon.

- Team in a close matchup. Remember that goku has IT and is much stronger than trunks was, & piccolo is already comparable to SS trunks initital appearance.

- saiyans

- I put Yajirobe first appearance already above cyborg tao

- Either bardock or king vegeta makes moon & literally stomp gurd, then they start fighting among themselves, with king vegeta barely winning.

- Yakon easily

Some couple fight for Babidi's henchmens.

- Pocus vs. Yamcha (Buu Arc)
- Pocus vs. Kuririn (Buu Arc)
- Yakon (On his home planet) vs. Base Gohan (Buu Arc)
- Yakon (On his home planet) vs. Base Goten and Trunks (Pre ROSAT)
- Dabra vs. Kibitoshin
- Dabra vs. Tagoma (DBS)

- Pocus
- Krillin
- Yakon
- Yakon
- Kibitoshin
- Tagoma GETS STONED

[Darkron2151]

This may be a oldie but I find it a goodie.

Multi-arc Vegetto gauntlet.

Saiyan Arc, allowed up to Kaio-Ken X4

Namek Arc (Goku has 3 million base and Vegeta at 250 thousand, which what he was before death right?) Kaio-Ken X 20 and/or SSJ allowed.

Cell Arc

How far into DBZ do you think which version gets?

Hmm...going by my Portara equation: [(A+B) x (weakest fusee/strongest fusee) x 100] (If decimals, round it off accordingly)

• Vegetto (Saiyan Arc): 1,155,556 (On par with 2nd Form Freeza but loses when the tyrant transforms again)
  (Kaio-Ken x4): 4,622,224 (True Form Freeza at 5% beats him)
  
  Vegetto (Freeza Arc/Vegeta Post-Dende): 432,000,000 (Beats everyone below Android 16 and then gets smashed)
  (Kaio-Ken x20): 8,640,000,000 (Beats everyone SSJ2 tier and below, but loses to any form of Buu)
  (SSJ): 21,600,000,000 (Beats everyone at low SSJ3 tier and then gets beat by Kid Buu)
  
  Vegetto (Cell Arc): 5,184,000,000 (Beats everyone up to SSJ2 Gohan and Super Perfect Cell)
  SSJ: 259,200,000,000 (Around 1.25x stronger than Buuhan, but loses due to Buu's stamina and regeneration)

[Hot Rod]

Hatchiyack vs Bio Broly.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Hatchiyack vs Bio Broly.

hatchiyak is stronger, but unless he gets wet broly'll probably win because he'd wear em out. He's not the better character, but he'd win. Normal broly beats em both though.

[DanielSSJ]

Hatchiyack vs Bio Broly.

Hatchiyack is stated to be as strong as Broly (M8) and Bio Broly is much weaker, so this should be obvious.

[Hellspawn28]

I view Bio Broli to be pretty weak since he hasn't done anything to put him above normal Broli. Hatchiyack is likely in the middle between LSSj Movie 8 Broli and Perfect Cell. So he stomps Bio Broli. Super Hatchiyack would likely be around SSj2 level and he would crush Bio Broli like dog shit.

[AvatarReiko]

1.)16 vs Imperfect Cell(Post Humans). Who would have won?
2.)Bio Broly vs Good Buu
3.) SSJG Red Goku & SSJGSS Vegeta vs Beerus

[Lord Beerus]

1.)16 vs Imperfect Cell(Post Humans). Who would have won?
2.)Bio Broly vs Good Buu
3.) SSJG Red Goku & SSJGSS Vegeta vs Beerus

- I'd give it Cell. He tanked the strongest attack that #16 could have thrown at him. I think the long run, Cell would have used his cunning to find a way to kill #16.
- I don't see Bio Broly being at the SSJ2 tier of strength like Good Boo is, considering that Bio Broly couldn't get the job done against SSJ Goten and Trunks.
- Considering the difference in strength with SSJG and SSJB is not that large, I'd honestly say Goku and Vegeta would take this is, if they work properly together.

[Draconic]

1.)16 vs Imperfect Cell(Post Humans). Who would have won?
2.)Bio Broly vs Good Buu
3.) SSJG Red Goku & SSJGSS Vegeta vs Beerus

16 would win. I am not sure if he has any attack that could permanently stop Cell from regenerating, but regeneration takes up a lot of Ki and Cell could barely do any damage to 16, who has much better stamina (is it infinite like 17 and 18? Can't quite remember) so eventually the Android would win.

Good Buu doesn't even break a sweat.

Beerus. Whis said in RoF that if Goku and Vegeta worked together they MIGHT take on Beerus, and both were at that point above God level, so with a weaker Goku I don't see how this could go any other way.