Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf arc

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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf

Post by Xeztin » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:37 pm

It'd be hard to change the name to Yamcha's arc especially since the manga has been around for decades. I think it'd be quite strange to name it after Yamcha though since you know... He's not even appeared in Super yet, at least I don't think he has.

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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:13 pm

The official names of the story arc of chapters 1-23/episodes 1-13 are these:
  • Search for the Dragon Balls arc
  • Encounter with Bulma arc
  • Goku and Bulma arc
It has also been called Son Goku arc & Son Goku Training arc, but only when the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai arc is included with it.
B wrote:This part of the story is also called the "Boyhood arc" sometimes, so that works.
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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf

Post by precita » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:23 am

Xeztin wrote: I think it'd be quite strange to name it after Yamcha though since you know... He's not even appeared in Super yet, at least I don't think he has.
Uh what? Yamcha was in the Beerus adaption episodes, same as the movie.

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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf

Post by DanielSSJ » Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:38 am

I don't think Yamcha is enough of a driving force to have the arc named after him. "Hunt for the Dragon Balls arc" is probably the best fitting name. Calling it the "Pilaf Arc" doesn't work that well, because, while Pilaf is the final badguy, he isn''t the driving force of the arc. Naming it the "Goku Arc" would be a bit more fitting, but that implies it's the only arc about Goku. Likewise, calling it the "Boyhood Arc" doesn't work, because Goku's "boyhood" last until the end of the Piccolo Daimao arc.

Any my preferred nomenclature for all the arcs are:
1. Hunt for the Dragon Balls Arc
2. 21s Tenkaichi Budokai Arc
3. Red Ribbon Army Arc (while the RRA get's defeated before the arc wraps up, it is still the driving force of the story.)
4. 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai
5. Piccolo Daimao Arc
6. 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc
7. Saiyan Arc
8. Namek/Freeza Arc, either works for me.
9. Android/Artificial Humans Arc (while Cell is the final villian, he doesn't actually get introduced at all until quite a ways into the story.)
10. Majin Boo Arc
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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf

Post by Kuririn Fan » Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:11 am

Saiga wrote:I've always preferred "Namek" and "Android/Artificial Humans" for those arcs. When I was younger, I used Freeza-Cell-Boo, which made me also use "Vegeta Saga" off some Funi DVD instead of Saiyan because I thought it should be named after the main villain.

But Saiyan is more accurate, I feel "Namek" is more accurate (the arc starts and ends with Namek, Freeza isn't active through the whole thing and doesn't even die until the next arc), "Android/Artificial Human" covers all the antagonists of that arc including the ones that inspired Trunks to time travel to begin with.

"Boo arc" is the only thing I'm not sure about. It really has nothing to do with the sequence from Gohan in high school to preparing for the tournament and stuff.
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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf

Post by Kuririn Fan » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:39 am

Saiga wrote:If any arc needs to be renamed I think it's the Red Ribbon Army arc. They're wiped out before the arc is even finished! I've always preferred to call that the Second Hunt for the Dragon Balls arc, after the first.
It shouldnt be called the second hunt, because Goku only wanted 4 star ball and he had problems getting it (because of the RR Army) and when he finally got it, he decided to get the rest of them to revive Bora, who died because of the Red Ribbon. So yeah, RR Army arc is perfect name and it ends with Goku beginning his training for 22nd TB.

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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf

Post by Saiga » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:49 am

Even if he was only after one of them, he was collecting any he came across. And then he later made it his focus to collect all of them.

The fact that Bora was killed be someone related to the RRA isn't really important once they've been dealt with. The only thing that is consistent from start to finish that arc is that Goku is hunting Dragon Balls, even if his reasons change partway through.
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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf

Post by Kuririn Fan » Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:47 am

Saiga wrote:Even if he was only after one of them, he was collecting any he came across. And then he later made it his focus to collect all of them.

The fact that Bora was killed be someone related to the RRA isn't really important once they've been dealt with. The only thing that is consistent from start to finish that arc is that Goku is hunting Dragon Balls, even if his reasons change partway through.
He was collecting them because he didnt find the one he was looking for, fighting RR Army along the way, only after RR Army intervention he decided to collect them all. And as i said, arc division differs from fan to fan.

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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf

Post by Kuririn Fan » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:56 am

Saiga wrote:I've always preferred "Namek" and "Android/Artificial Humans" for those arcs. When I was younger, I used Freeza-Cell-Boo, which made me also use "Vegeta Saga" off some Funi DVD instead of Saiyan because I thought it should be named after the main villain.

But Saiyan is more accurate, I feel "Namek" is more accurate (the arc starts and ends with Namek, Freeza isn't active through the whole thing and doesn't even die until the next arc), "Android/Artificial Human" covers all the antagonists of that arc including the ones that inspired Trunks to time travel to begin with.

"Boo arc" is the only thing I'm not sure about. It really has nothing to do with the sequence from Gohan in high school to preparing for the tournament and stuff.
Its more perfect to call it the Freeza Arc, Namek isnt the most iconic villain in the whole franchise, Namek isnt the leader of all those henchmen and the Ginyu Force, Namek isnt the sole reason of Goku getting to Earth in the first place, you get the idea, and we didnt know that he was alive, but that didnt changed the fact that the ending was perfect and very clear. The Cell Arcs first chapter involves Trunks introduction and in the last chapter he finally kills Cell and saves his time. The fact that the main villain does not appear immediately doesnt mean anything, also Freezas coming was vital event in history of Cells creation, Gero was his creator and 17 and 18 were very important parts of his perfection, so the circle was completed when the main villain appeared and he deserves the title. All 10 arcs have clear beginnings, middles and endings and taking part of the Boos beginning and calling it an arc is very silly. And Freeza - Cell - Boo flows nicely and they are 3 biggest, most important villains of the whole series, their arcs are the biggest and most popular with clear beginnings, middles and endings and lot of fans go with those arc names. This arc division was introduced to me by GafferTape and i agree with him, my arc division before this was similar, i only saw 1st and 2nd arcs as one and 22nd TB, daimao and 23rd TB all as one, but this is better and clearer. Also, this doesnt mean anything but Dragon Ball has 10 letters, Dragon is six letters and original DB has 6 arcs and then they renamed the anime into Z and Z has 4 arcs, just like the word Ball has 4 letters, just my silly way of thinking.

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