Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf arc
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Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf arc
I hereby petition to rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf arc, the Yamcha arc.
Think about it. As far as the manga goes, Emperor Pilaf did not even show up until the very end. Clearly the arc should not be named after him, for it did not revolve around him at all.
The alternate title, First Hunt for the Dragon Balls, is more fitting, but inconsistent with the rest of Dragon Ball. After the first arc, every single arc was named after the primary villain or threat of that arc. Piccolo, Saiyans, the Tournament itself, etc. The Freeza arc is not called the Namek arc and the Piccolo arc is not called the Avenge Krillin arc. They are Freeza, and Piccolo, the primary antagonists. Even with the Tournament arcs, could the Budokai not be considered the main threat itself? They're never strictly about defeating a single opponent, because the idea is that we aren't supposed to know who the finalists are until the end. The Tournament itself is what Goku wants to conquer.
So every arc is consistently named after the antagonist, why should the first arc be any different? And considering Pilaf was hardly a central force in that arc, I suggest... the Yamcha arc. Sure he wasn't a villain by the end, but he WAS the primary antagonist for most of the story, a recurring threat to the Dragon Team who was always around the corner. Do we call the RRA arc the Grandpa Gohan arc, just because he was technically the last person to be fought? No, we call it the RRA, because even though the arc didn't end with them, the central story was focused around them. Hence, the Yamcha arc.
Also, I just find it really funny having an arc named after Yamcha, side by side as an equal threat along with the likes of Freeza and Cell.
Think about it. As far as the manga goes, Emperor Pilaf did not even show up until the very end. Clearly the arc should not be named after him, for it did not revolve around him at all.
The alternate title, First Hunt for the Dragon Balls, is more fitting, but inconsistent with the rest of Dragon Ball. After the first arc, every single arc was named after the primary villain or threat of that arc. Piccolo, Saiyans, the Tournament itself, etc. The Freeza arc is not called the Namek arc and the Piccolo arc is not called the Avenge Krillin arc. They are Freeza, and Piccolo, the primary antagonists. Even with the Tournament arcs, could the Budokai not be considered the main threat itself? They're never strictly about defeating a single opponent, because the idea is that we aren't supposed to know who the finalists are until the end. The Tournament itself is what Goku wants to conquer.
So every arc is consistently named after the antagonist, why should the first arc be any different? And considering Pilaf was hardly a central force in that arc, I suggest... the Yamcha arc. Sure he wasn't a villain by the end, but he WAS the primary antagonist for most of the story, a recurring threat to the Dragon Team who was always around the corner. Do we call the RRA arc the Grandpa Gohan arc, just because he was technically the last person to be fought? No, we call it the RRA, because even though the arc didn't end with them, the central story was focused around them. Hence, the Yamcha arc.
Also, I just find it really funny having an arc named after Yamcha, side by side as an equal threat along with the likes of Freeza and Cell.
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Erm...does Yamucha know about this?
Cuz even he would ROFL for this "blasphemy"
I'm intrigued with 1 point u made. Each saga is named after the villain
Now that I think abt it, they (Frieza, Cell & Buu) were just figures proving to be threatening, while the "driving force" of each Arcs were buildups & attempts to stop villains
In this case, DragonBalls just title-holders
The forces driving Hunt for DB's were Goku & Bulma's persistence for collecting all 7 balls, Yamcha's attempts at screwing Goku & Co, Pilaf's ambition of conquering da World etc
Cuz even he would ROFL for this "blasphemy"
I'm intrigued with 1 point u made. Each saga is named after the villain
Now that I think abt it, they (Frieza, Cell & Buu) were just figures proving to be threatening, while the "driving force" of each Arcs were buildups & attempts to stop villains
In this case, DragonBalls just title-holders
The forces driving Hunt for DB's were Goku & Bulma's persistence for collecting all 7 balls, Yamcha's attempts at screwing Goku & Co, Pilaf's ambition of conquering da World etc
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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf
Eh, I feel like Yamucha has to be their early in the story for it to be called the Yamucha/Yamcha arc.
Personally if their were to change the name of the arc I would go with the "Goku arc".
Personally if their were to change the name of the arc I would go with the "Goku arc".
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There are only 4 arcs that are commonly named after characters in Dragon Ball: Piccolo Daimao, Freeza, Cell, and Buu. If you count GT, then I guess you can also add Baby and Super 17. Super is also referring to its new arc as the "God of Destruction Champa arc." As for naming the first arc after Yamcha, I don't see that being a fitting name. "Hunt for the Dragon Balls" works perfectly.
(Why do you consider the Tenkaichi Budokai to be a "main threat"? That doesn't make much sense.)
(Why do you consider the Tenkaichi Budokai to be a "main threat"? That doesn't make much sense.)
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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf
Interesting idea, but it seems like trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. The DB Hunt story arc is named differently because it is in fact structurally quite different than later story arc that revolve around central villains. The main focus of the arc from start to finish is the search for the dragon balls, rather than villains like Yamcha or even Pilaf.
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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf
This part of the story is also called the "Boyhood arc" sometimes, so that works.
Also, fans call the Freeza arc the Namek arc all the time. I will occasionally refer to the Cell arc as the Android arc as well(officially, this arc uses both Cell and Android/Artificial Human in its title).
Also, fans call the Freeza arc the Namek arc all the time. I will occasionally refer to the Cell arc as the Android arc as well(officially, this arc uses both Cell and Android/Artificial Human in its title).
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The tournaments aren't a threat, they're tournaments, settings where the story itself happens, a setting as mundane as a the BT arena can't be called a threat.
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The first arc should simply be called, "Dragonball" since that's what it was about.
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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf
Nope, the hunt for the Dragon Balls is a perfect name.
001-The Hunt for the Dragon Balls Arc (1-23)
002-The 21st Tenkaichi Budokai Arc (24-54)
003-The Red Ribbon Army Arc (55-112)
004-The 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc (113-134)
005-The Piccolo Daimao Arc (135-165)
006-The 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc (166-194)
007-The Saiyan Arc (195-241)
008-The Freeza Arc (242-329)
009-The Cell Arc (330-420)
010-The Majin Boo Arc (421-519)
001-The Hunt for the Dragon Balls Arc (1-23)
002-The 21st Tenkaichi Budokai Arc (24-54)
003-The Red Ribbon Army Arc (55-112)
004-The 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc (113-134)
005-The Piccolo Daimao Arc (135-165)
006-The 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc (166-194)
007-The Saiyan Arc (195-241)
008-The Freeza Arc (242-329)
009-The Cell Arc (330-420)
010-The Majin Boo Arc (421-519)
Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf
The Yamcha arc?
The Son Goku Saga perhaps. Or the Journey of the West.
The Son Goku Saga perhaps. Or the Journey of the West.
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I vote we name the Battle of Gods arc the Boat arc.
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I think The Awesomeness Of Lord Beerus arc is a more appropriate name.Doctor. wrote:I vote we name the Battle of Gods arc the Boat arc.
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Oolong's Panty Quest Arc.


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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf
Honestly, I don't mind that idea. Yamcha does have the character arc in that portion of the series, and alongside Puar gets to fight the main final battle (vs. Oozaru Goku).
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If any arc needs to be renamed I think it's the Red Ribbon Army arc. They're wiped out before the arc is even finished! I've always preferred to call that the Second Hunt for the Dragon Balls arc, after the first.
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Yeah, then the entire debate on wherever the Baba stuff was its own arc or not can be ended.
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Question,wouldn't it make sense if the Cell arc was just called the Artificial Humans arc? Cell is referred as an AH in episode 143 and calling it the Cell arc kind of spoils it... Though it doesn't give too much away I guess.Kuririn Fan wrote:Nope, the hunt for the Dragon Balls is a perfect name.
001-The Hunt for the Dragon Balls Arc (1-23)
002-The 21st Tenkaichi Budokai Arc (24-54)
003-The Red Ribbon Army Arc (55-112)
004-The 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc (113-134)
005-The Piccolo Daimao Arc (135-165)
006-The 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc (166-194)
007-The Saiyan Arc (195-241)
008-The Freeza Arc (242-329)
009-The Cell Arc (330-420)
010-The Majin Boo Arc (421-519)
Also I find it weird/funny Cell wasn't even planned to be the final antagonist in that arc.
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Re: Rename the First Hunt for the Dragon Balls/Emperor Pilaf
Nah, Freeza - Cell - Boo is a nice flow.stynatu46 wrote:Question,wouldn't it make sense if the Cell arc was just called the Artificial Humans arc? Cell is referred as an AH in episode 143 and calling it the Cell arc kind of spoils it... Though it doesn't give too much away I guess.Kuririn Fan wrote:Nope, the hunt for the Dragon Balls is a perfect name.
001-The Hunt for the Dragon Balls Arc (1-23)
002-The 21st Tenkaichi Budokai Arc (24-54)
003-The Red Ribbon Army Arc (55-112)
004-The 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc (113-134)
005-The Piccolo Daimao Arc (135-165)
006-The 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc (166-194)
007-The Saiyan Arc (195-241)
008-The Freeza Arc (242-329)
009-The Cell Arc (330-420)
010-The Majin Boo Arc (421-519)
Also I find it weird/funny Cell wasn't even planned to be the final antagonist in that arc.
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I've always preferred "Namek" and "Android/Artificial Humans" for those arcs. When I was younger, I used Freeza-Cell-Boo, which made me also use "Vegeta Saga" off some Funi DVD instead of Saiyan because I thought it should be named after the main villain.
But Saiyan is more accurate, I feel "Namek" is more accurate (the arc starts and ends with Namek, Freeza isn't active through the whole thing and doesn't even die until the next arc), "Android/Artificial Human" covers all the antagonists of that arc including the ones that inspired Trunks to time travel to begin with.
"Boo arc" is the only thing I'm not sure about. It really has nothing to do with the sequence from Gohan in high school to preparing for the tournament and stuff.
But Saiyan is more accurate, I feel "Namek" is more accurate (the arc starts and ends with Namek, Freeza isn't active through the whole thing and doesn't even die until the next arc), "Android/Artificial Human" covers all the antagonists of that arc including the ones that inspired Trunks to time travel to begin with.
"Boo arc" is the only thing I'm not sure about. It really has nothing to do with the sequence from Gohan in high school to preparing for the tournament and stuff.
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