The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hot Rod » Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:27 pm

Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan vs Super Saiyan 4 Broly.

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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:32 pm

Hot Rod wrote:Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan vs Super Saiyan 4 Broly.

Broly wins. When you're on the same level as Broly you're gonna get pooped on.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Pocket-God » Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:00 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Hot Rod wrote:Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan vs Super Saiyan 4 Broly.

Broly wins. When you're on the same level as Broly you're gonna get pooped on.
Yeah pretty much this :v

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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:23 pm

Pocket-God wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Hot Rod wrote:Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan vs Super Saiyan 4 Broly.

Broly wins. When you're on the same level as Broly you're gonna get pooped on.
Yeah pretty much this :v

Honestly a better match up would be ssj4 Broyl vs omega shenron since I see him as owning ssj4 goku and vegeta, we even get a heroes video on it.

Omega has regeneration, but Broly is the kind of guy who'd just not flinch at any attack from ssj4 Goku. It'd take ssj4 Gogeta to beat him. So it's up for grabs. I'd like to see that animated though.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:35 pm

Lunatic Fringe wrote:• Super #13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell
• Cui & Dodria vs. Zarbon(not allowed to transform)
• Kaioshin vs. FPSSJ Goku(Cell Games Saga)
• Metamoru Fused Jeice/Burter vs. Final Form Freeza(Initial appearance)
Hard to know. My gut tells me Cell takes this.
Zarbon gets wrecked.
Kaioshin wins with medium difficulty.
Even 1st form Freeza finger flicks.

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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:43 pm

Zombie wrote:
Lunatic Fringe wrote:• Super #13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell
• Cui & Dodria vs. Zarbon(not allowed to transform)
• Kaioshin vs. FPSSJ Goku(Cell Games Saga)
• Metamoru Fused Jeice/Burter vs. Final Form Freeza(Initial appearance)
Hard to know. My gut tells me Cell takes this.
Zarbon gets wrecked.
Kaioshin wins with medium difficulty.
Even 1st form Freeza finger flicks.

IDK about wrecked, I mean he's skilled enough to do ok vs vegeta in his first form. I think he'd lose but it'd be tough for them to win as he's more skilled and stronger then both. Plus if he doesn't transform that's just a lot of ki inside his body that can be used for energy attack instead.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:05 pm

Zombie wrote:
Lunatic Fringe wrote:• Super #13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell
Hard to know. My gut tells me Cell takes this.
It isn't that hard. The Daizenshuu confirms that Android #16 is stronger than Super Android #13.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:40 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
Zombie wrote:
Lunatic Fringe wrote:• Super #13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell
Hard to know. My gut tells me Cell takes this.
It isn't that hard. The Daizenshuu confirms that Android #16 is stronger than Super Android #13.

But daizenshuus have been wrong before, like vegeta going ssj on namek for example, wrong chapter stated.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:52 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
Zombie wrote:
Lunatic Fringe wrote:• Super #13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell
Hard to know. My gut tells me Cell takes this.
It isn't that hard. The Daizenshuu confirms that Android #16 is stronger than Super Android #13.
I completely forgot about that little tidbit. Thanks.

Cell one shots then.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:59 pm

Zombie wrote: I completely forgot about that little tidbit. Thanks.

Cell one shots then.
It would depend on which Daizenshuu that came from, though. If it's from the manga Daizenshuu, it wouldn't take Super 13 into account, anyway.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:04 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Zombie wrote: I completely forgot about that little tidbit. Thanks.

Cell one shots then.
It would depend on which Daizenshuu that came from, though. If it's from the manga Daizenshuu, it wouldn't take Super 13 into account, anyway.
Android #16's bio that mentions he is the strongest artificial human besides Cell is on the same exact page as Android #13's bio. There is no reason for him to be excluded.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:11 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Zombie wrote: I completely forgot about that little tidbit. Thanks.

Cell one shots then.
It would depend on which Daizenshuu that came from, though. If it's from the manga Daizenshuu, it wouldn't take Super 13 into account, anyway.
Android #16's bio that mentions he is the strongest artificial human besides Cell is on the same exact page as Android #13's bio. There is no reason for him to be excluded.
Fair enough. For future notice, just saying "it's in the Daizenshuu" isn't really much of a reference. There are 6 of them that deal with in-universe tidbits like that, and each of them contains exclusive, and sometimes contradictory information. Try to be specific.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:32 pm

I hope we someday get a new guide Daizenshuu-like to explain new forms and character stuff.
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Post by Khin » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:08 am

New Matches :

- Kid Gohan (Android Arc) vs. Base Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- Hypothetical SSj Kid Gohan (Android Arc) and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) and SSj Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell (vs.Goku) and MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. 7 Cell Jrs.
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. 100% Final Form Freeza (Namek)
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. SSj Goku (Yardrat)
- Piccolo (Cell Games) vs. 50% MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta (Post ROSAT 1st Time) vs. SSj Grade 3 Mirai Trunks (Post ROSAT 1st Time)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Dr.Gero (Post Absorption) and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Mirai Android 18 (vs.Mirai Gohan/Trunks)

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Post by Noah » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:54 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches :

- Kid Gohan (Android Arc) vs. Base Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- Hypothetical SSj Kid Gohan (Android Arc) and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) and SSj Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell (vs.Goku) and MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. 7 Cell Jrs.
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. 100% Final Form Freeza (Namek)
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. SSj Goku (Yardrat)
- Piccolo (Cell Games) vs. 50% MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta (Post ROSAT 1st Time) vs. SSj Grade 3 Mirai Trunks (Post ROSAT 1st Time)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Dr.Gero (Post Absorption) and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Mirai Android 18 (vs.Mirai Gohan/Trunks)
- I don't think Kid Gohan might have surpassed Base Goku BP in Namek Arc, let alone Trunks. So the future boy deals with him with ease.

- Goku is a more experienced and balanced fighter than both Vegeta and Trunks, but he's weaker than Vegeta in that stage and Gohan would probably be weakest in this match. They could come up with some strategy but the odds are in favor of Vegeta and Trunks to win this one.

- Well supposing Gohan is using his full power and is fighting against suppressed Perfect Cell that fought Goku, I would say that he would beat they with ease, but... If it is Perfect Cell using his full power things changes a bit, Goku is the first to go down and I think FP Perfect Cell is stronger than FP MSSJ Gohan, so he wins with average difficulty.

- I think if Goku had eated a Senzu Bean his full power would be enough to defeat all Cell Juniors, Gohan is stronger than him so he probably would defeat them too (with not the same ease as a SSJ2).

- Well, people says that Piccolo had made huge gains by training 3 years prior the Android Arc, but I don't see he being stronger than 100% FP Freeza, probably 40-50% who knows. He loses, IMO.

- Same thing above. If Piccolo for me had not surpassed Freeza yet, SSJ Goku would wreck him.

- Vegeta and Trunks were surprised with Goku's 50% power, I know they trained after that and probably reached that level, they're on par with Cell Juniors which I don't think Piccolo is yet, so Goku defeats the namekian.

- Vegeta knew that Grade 3 had its drawbacks, that's why he didn't used against Cell. Even Trunks being stronger than him at that stage, I see Vegeta managing a way to defeat Trunks exploiting his weakness, I'd say the chances of both winning are equal.

- I think two androids are probably too much for Vegeta to handle, if he is in his full power fighting against both and being careful about they absorbing his energy than he could probably destroy 19 first and go all out against 20, but the odds are in favor of the androids to win this one.

- SSJ Vegeta in the main timeline is probably way stronger than his future counterpart who was defeated by 17 easily. I would say he is stronger individually than both future 17 and 18, maybe not if they're together, anyway I think he would tear 18 apart in this version.
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Post by Methuselah » Sat Jan 02, 2016 6:05 pm

Hot Rod wrote:Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan vs Super Saiyan 4 Broly.
DB Heroes portrays Broly as someone who stomps SS4 Goku and SS4 Vegeta, so he'd win going by that.

Going by the portrayal of the movies and the anime, Gohan one-shots due to having much higher potential.

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Post by ZombieVito » Sat Jan 02, 2016 7:05 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches :

- Kid Gohan (Android Arc) vs. Base Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- Hypothetical SSj Kid Gohan (Android Arc) and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) and SSj Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell (vs.Goku) and MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. 7 Cell Jrs.
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. 100% Final Form Freeza (Namek)
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. SSj Goku (Yardrat)
- Piccolo (Cell Games) vs. 50% MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta (Post ROSAT 1st Time) vs. SSj Grade 3 Mirai Trunks (Post ROSAT 1st Time)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Dr.Gero (Post Absorption) and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Mirai Android 18 (vs.Mirai Gohan/Trunks)
Trunks wins with medium difficulty.
Team B wins after a good fight.
Gohan gets overwhelmed.
Gohan does have a big advantage in power but the Juniors could win by teamwork.
Piccolo.
Equals. Goku wins thanks to his IT.
Piccolo wins after a hard fight.
Vegeta wins by fighting smart and tiring out Trunks.
Vegeta wins very easily.
18 wins by tiring out Vegeta.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:55 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. SSj Goku (Yardrat)
Piccolo was confident in going up against the expected androids that scared this Goku. Piccolo should win quite easily.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:10 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches :

- Kid Gohan (Android Arc) vs. Base Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- Hypothetical SSj Kid Gohan (Android Arc) and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) and SSj Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell (vs.Goku) and MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. 7 Cell Jrs.
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. 100% Final Form Freeza (Namek)
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. SSj Goku (Yardrat)
- Piccolo (Cell Games) vs. 50% MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta (Post ROSAT 1st Time) vs. SSj Grade 3 Mirai Trunks (Post ROSAT 1st Time)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Dr.Gero (Post Absorption) and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Mirai Android 18 (vs.Mirai Gohan/Trunks)
- Trunks
- Team 2 in a close fight due to Goku
- Gohan with immense difficulty
- Gohan with low diff
- Piccolo
- Piccolo in a close fight
- Piccolo
- Veget can't hurt Trunks but Trunks can't touch him. Stalemate.
- Team 2
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jan 03, 2016 6:57 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Cyborg Tao vs. Goku (23rd Budokai; Suppressed Weighted) ;The one that fought King Chappa and Chi-Chi
Goku blows away Tao like he did to Chi Chi.

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