why didn't dr.gero know about ssj?

[dragonballer]

wasn't he spying everything about goku on Earth?
freeza,trunks,three years training,and he doesn't have a clue about ssj or how strong they were?

ps.: was dr.gero watching goku and chichi doing that thing? ,because i am sure cell's spy robot was .

[Kamiccolo9]

He had stopped using the spy robot after Goku's fight against Vegeta, because he had "enough data," by that point. The other robot, the one that extracted DNA or whatever, was still in use up until Piccolo fought Cell.

[dragonballer]

He had stopped using the spy robot after Goku's fight against Vegeta, because he had "enough data," by that point. The other robot, the one that extracted DNA or whatever, was still in use up until Piccolo fought Cell.

i don't know why he thinks he has enough data,can't he realize that goku gets times stronger from one of those battles he mentioned to another? hell,goku went to another level after he is revived,shouldn't he watch a little more just in case? those scientists....

[Kamiccolo9]

He had stopped using the spy robot after Goku's fight against Vegeta, because he had "enough data," by that point. The other robot, the one that extracted DNA or whatever, was still in use up until Piccolo fought Cell.

i don't know why he thinks he has enough data,can't he realize that goku gets times stronger from one of those battles he mentioned to another? hell,goku went to another level after he is revived,shouldn't he watch a little more just in case? those scientists....

Well, 17 and 18 were stronger than Goku even after he trained for 3 years specifically to fight them. Seeing as the only thing Gero really overlooked was a magical dimension that nobody else knew about either, I think he did okay.

[dbgtFO]

He had stopped using the spy robot after Goku's fight against Vegeta, because he had "enough data," by that point. The other robot, the one that extracted DNA or whatever, was still in use up until Piccolo fought Cell.

i don't know why he thinks he has enough data,can't he realize that goku gets times stronger from one of those battles he mentioned to another? hell,goku went to another level after he is revived,shouldn't he watch a little more just in case? those scientists....

I agree. Dr. Gero's reasoning here was stupid. Goku comes back 20 times stronger in less than a year and the conclusion is Goku was at his peak and thus wouldn't explosively power-up more??
Silly logic like that is why he ultimately ended up dead, when he basically held all the cards.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

The reason he thought Goku would reach his peak is even dumber. It's not like Goku was anywhere close to being old. It's clear Gero was going senile during his research.

[tasuxeda]

To be fair to Dr Gero, if Beerus is right then even after a decade after the androids are released Goku still a lot weaker that the androids are in his base form, so his calculations might have been accurate discounting Super Saiyan which Dr Gero had no way of knowing about when he made his calculations.

[mirai.popo]

To be fair to Dr Gero, if Beerus is right then even after a decade after the androids are released Goku still a lot weaker that the androids are in his base form, so his calculations might have been accurate discounting Super Saiyan which Dr Gero had no way of knowing about when he made his calculations.

Agreed. And besides that gero was lucky not sending the spy robot or the dna collector to namek, once it was gonna get destroyed by Namek explosion.

[Lord Beerus]

The reason he thought Goku would reach his peak is even dumber. It's not like Goku was anywhere close to being old. It's clear Gero was going senile during his research.

He spent many years alone in a cave, with only machinery to keep him company, who wouldn't go nuts?

[mirai.popo]

The reason he thought Goku would reach his peak is even dumber. It's not like Goku was anywhere close to being old. It's clear Gero was going senile during his research.

He spent many years alone in a cave, with only machinery to keep him company, who wouldn't go nuts?

Is that the reason 18 looks so good?

[Draconic]

The reason he thought Goku would reach his peak is even dumber. It's not like Goku was anywhere close to being old. It's clear Gero was going senile during his research.

He spent many years alone in a cave, with only machinery to keep him company, who wouldn't go nuts?

Is that the reason 18 looks so good?

No. That's why 17 looks so good.

[rereboy]

I agree. Dr. Gero's reasoning here was stupid. Goku comes back 20 times stronger in less than a year and the conclusion is Goku was at his peak and thus wouldn't explosively power-up more??
Silly logic like that is why he ultimately ended up dead, when he basically held all the cards.

The reason he thought Goku would reach his peak is even dumber. It's not like Goku was anywhere close to being old. It's clear Gero was going senile during his research.

Not at all. Gero calculated how strong Goku could possibly get in a few years time and realized that his androids were far stronger than what he calculated Goku to possibly achieve.

It took Goku several MASSIVE zenkais, a completely unknown (to Gero) legendary transformation that made Goku 50 times stronger, and three years of specific training for the androids to throw off Gero's calculations in such a way that his androids were no longer enough. And even with all that, only his energy absorbing androids were not enough. #17 and #18 were still more than enough to deal with Goku, not to mention #16.

Without SSJ and the warning from Future Trunks to get ready, Goku wouldn't be be able to match any of Gero's androids even with the massive zenkais that he got.

[Khin]

The reason he thought Goku would reach his peak is even dumber. It's not like Goku was anywhere close to being old. It's clear Gero was going senile during his research.

He spent many years alone in a cave, with only machinery to keep him company, who wouldn't go nuts?

Is that the reason 18 looks so good?

This reminds me of those weird fan theories about Gero making Android 18 his s*x slave.

[FoolsGil]

Because incompetence. He had Cell Spy Drones surveying the Trunks battle, and apparently didn't input a contingency to be interrupted for anomalies, like a Saiyan transformation.

[DBZAOTA482]

Dr. Gero gave up on the Cell project a long time ago since he knew he wouldn't live to see it complete but the programming was complex beyond his own comprehension.

[Hellspawn28]

Well there was no way for his spy bots to go on Namek. Otherwise Cell would have DNA of Captain Ginyu too.

[apex_pretador]

Well there was no way for his spy bots to go on Namek. Otherwise Cell would have DNA of Captain Ginyu too.

that'd be awesome.

[Lord Beerus]

Well there was no way for his spy bots to go on Namek. Otherwise Cell would have DNA of Captain Ginyu too.

that'd be awesome.

Yeah, seeing Cell pull Ginyu Force fighting poses spontaneously would have been a thing of beauty.

[Speedster]

It is not that Gero assumed that Goku would not get stronger but rather that his growth factor wouldn’t increase and rather decrease. Goku returned 20x stronger after his fight with Radditz so if Gero factored Goku getting 20x stronger per year then after 4 years it would be 20^4=160,000x increase since his battle with Vegeta. Instead he factored a 5x increase per year leading to 5^4 *8,000=5 million. Then possibly thought of a x10 Kaioken for 50 million. What actually surprises me is not Gero’s assumptions (or calculations/miscalculations as result of them) but the fact that his spyrobots after stopping spying Goku the still still collected DNA from Freeza when he came to Earth. How did they miss SSJ Goku or SSJ Trunks who fought against him only Kami-sama knows.

It took Goku several MASSIVE zenkais, a completely unknown (to Gero) legendary transformation that made Goku 50 times stronger, and three years of specific training for the androids to throw off Gero's calculations in such a way that his androids were no longer enough. And even with all that, only his energy absorbing androids were not enough. #17 and #18 were still more than enough to deal with Goku, not to mention #16. Without SSJ and the warning from Future Trunks to get ready, Goku wouldn't be be able to match any of Gero's androids even with the massive zenkais that he got.

Not quite true. In the original timeline the Androids were weaker. The advantage due to Goku’s increase in power in the main timeline during the 3 years of training after Trunks’ warning was nullified by the increase in power of the main timeline Androids due to the time ripples.

And besides that gero was lucky not sending the spy robot or the dna collector to namek, once it was gonna get destroyed by Namek explosion.

Not sure about this. The spy robots may hhave been able to send the information instantly once collected using radio telecommunications. Much like a spy camera sending whatever it observes instantly to the operations base.

[Hellspawn28]

How would his spy bots go to Namek anyways. There would be no way for him to send anything to another planet.

Well there was no way for his spy bots to go on Namek. Otherwise Cell would have DNA of Captain Ginyu too.

that'd be awesome.

Yeah, seeing Cell pull Ginyu Force fighting poses spontaneously would have been a thing of beauty.

Cell would have DNA of Guldo most likely too given that time freeza would have been useful for Cell. Everyone would die much faster if Dr. Gero was able to get info on Namek since Cell would have DNA of Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Guldo, Captain Ginyu and Freeza.