The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:42 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Cyborg Tao vs. Goku (23rd Budokai; Suppressed Weighted) ;The one that fought King Chappa and Chi-Chi
Goku blows away Tao like he did to Chi Chi.
I dunno... Tao ain't standing around for this bout.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kakarotto92 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:26 am

GT Pan vs Nappa

Probably an easy one but I haven't seen GT in literally a decade so I'm clueless.

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Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:14 am

Kakarotto92 wrote:GT Pan vs Nappa

Probably an easy one but I haven't seen GT in literally a decade so I'm clueless.
She easily overpowered Dr. Gero, sooo...

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:20 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:- Whis vs. Beerus and Champa
- Sick SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion)
- SSj Goten (Pre ROSAT) vs. Kaioshin
- SSj Goten (Post ROSAT) vs. Kaioshin
- LSSj Broli (Movie 10) and Super Perfect Cell vs. Olibu
- SSj2 Teen Gohan (Z Sword) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Yamcha (Cell Games) vs. Captain Ginyu
- Yamcha (Cell Games) vs. Vegeta (Post Recoome Zenkai and Sleep)
- Yamcha (Buu Arc filler) vs. SSj2 Vegeta (Pre Majin)
- SSj Gotenks (Pre ROSAT) vs. Pure Boo
— Whis is a more skilled fighter than either of them (his whole "automatic movement" thing is totally broken) and has a solid power advantage too. I'm betting he wins.
— Goku loses, especially if he gets worse over time.
— Kaioshin had too much of a power advantage and no special reason to be wary of Goten. He wins.
— Same outcome, but Kaioshin may struggle a bit more.
— I'm still not sure how strong Olivu is actually supposed to be, because filler. Pass.
— Increasing his "arm strength" by swinging around something heavy for a day or so isn't going to make up for the power and skill Gohan lost over the last 7 years. His younger self wins.
— I don't think Yamcha ever broke 100,000 in power level. Ginyu kicks his ass.
— Ditto. Even worse.
— Filler Yamcha's strength is only effective against other filler characters. Vegeta tears him apart.
— Remember how badly Vegeta fared against Pure Boo? Gotenks here is about as outmatched in strength but gets an even worse thrashing, since he isn't as skilled or resilient a fighter as Vegeta.
Lunatic Fringe wrote:• Super #13 vs. Semi-Perfect Cell
• Cui & Dodria vs. Zarbon(not allowed to transform)
• Kaioshin vs. FPSSJ Goku (Cell Games Saga)
• Metamoru Fused Jeice/Burter vs. Final Form Freeza(Initial appearance)
• Cell, easily. As has already been pointed out, one of the guidebooks lays out for us that Super 13 is weaker than 16, who likewise got wrecked by Stage-2 Cell.
• Dodoria is already almost identical to Zarbon in power, so with Kwi backing him up I'm sure the two of them can win.
• They're about the same in power, but I'm sure Goku's the better fighter so I'll give it to him.
• Butta and Jheese automatically lose because they're too different in size to even perform the Fusion Dance. If they merged via Potara instead, though, my gut tells me "Butteese" would be more than strong enough to win.
Hot Rod wrote:Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan vs Super Saiyan 4 Broly.
Unless this is a hypothetical "GT Broli" who's continued to gain power like he did between Movies 8 and 10, he gets totally schooled. Even if that's the case, I'm not sure he'd be strong enough to win.
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:- Kid Gohan (Android Arc) vs. Base Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- Hypothetical SSj Kid Gohan (Android Arc) and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) and SSj Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell (vs.Goku) and MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. 7 Cell Jrs.
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. 100% Final Form Freeza (Namek)
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. SSj Goku (Yardrat)
- Piccolo (Cell Games) vs. 50% MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta (Post ROSAT 1st Time) vs. SSj Grade 3 Mirai Trunks (Post ROSAT 1st Time)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Dr.Gero (Post Absorption) and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Mirai Android 18 (vs.Mirai Gohan/Trunks)
— I'd say Trunks. I think he has a bit of a power edge as well as more training and practical battle experience.
— Vegeta and Trunks take it. Higher average power level, mostly.
— Gohan doesn't have enough of a power edge to tackle both these guys at once.
— Same idea. Gohan could probably beat 2 or 3 of them, and hold his own against 4 or 5. But he's not beating all 7 at once.
— Piccolo's (at least) on par with SS Goku or Trunks during the latter's visit, and utterly thrashes Freeza.
— Close fight in all respects, could go either way.
— Same thing. By coincidence, their power level usually end up similar for me when I crunch my made-up numbers.
— Grade 3 will give Trunks a HUGE power advantage over regular Super Saiyan Vegeta, and considering that difference I doubt his speed loss will be drastic enough to make him slower than Vegeta. Trunks ends this fight quite quickly.
— Vegeta can probably win this if he plays it smart. He has to make sure they don't both manage to grab him and drain his ki at the same time or something. He may not be able to recover from that.
— I think Vegeta would be about even with the weaker Future 18 (instead of somewhat weaker like against 18 Prime), so he can maybe win as long as he pulls it off quickly before he loses much stamina.
Kakarotto92 wrote:GT Pan vs Nappa
GT is GT and so I'm not sure at all exactly how strong Pan is supposed to be... But I'm 100% certain she's got a FAR higher power level than Nappa's mere 4,000 or so. He punches her square in the face, and she remarks how she didn't even feel it before caving in his skull with a finger flick.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:42 am

If Son Gohan had trained with Piccolo following the Cell Games how far could this hypothetical Gohan go if he were to have fought all of the same opposition he had faced after defeating Cell (Perfect Full Power) in canon? Keep in mind that this said Gohan learned from his shortcomings during his youth and became able to rid himself of them completely, meaning no moments of hesitation, arrogance, or cockiness happened to him after growing up during the seven years of peace before Babidi and Dabura came along...

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hot Rod » Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:52 am

Darkness Towa vs Kaioshin of West.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:55 am

Hot Rod wrote:Darkness Towa vs Kaioshin of West.
Considering Darkness Towa has power strong enough to force Android 18 to merge with Super 17, and Super #17 is in a different league compared to Majin Boo, who defeated West Kaioshin easily if we go by filler, then Towa stomps hard.

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Post by nickzambuto » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:44 am

Goku vs Yajirobe in the ultimate eating contest to finally settle the score. Who can suck more food down their greedy pig throats before falling asleep?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:29 am

nickzambuto wrote:Goku vs Yajirobe in the ultimate eating contest to finally settle the score. Who can suck more food down their greedy pig throats before falling asleep?
Goku. Saiyans, especially adult Saiyans, are bottomless pits when it comes to eating.

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Post by nickzambuto » Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:10 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:Goku vs Yajirobe in the ultimate eating contest to finally settle the score. Who can suck more food down their greedy pig throats before falling asleep?
Goku. Saiyans, especially adult Saiyans, are bottomless pits when it comes to eating.
Let's keep in mind Yaj is the dude who gorges on Senzu Beans in order to get full.

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Your toughts on those fights

Post by mirai.popo » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:50 pm

Want to know what are your toughts on those:

1) PUI PUI vs JEICE and BUTTER

2) PIKKON vs perfect CELL (before-zenkai boost)

3) a par of CELL JR vs GOTEN and TRUNKS (without fusion)

4) FREEZA (namek saga) vs ABO and KADO

6) YAJIROBI vs TAO PAI PAI

7) REJJIK (GT) vs Perfect CELL (before-zenkai boost)

8) Guldo vs Para Para Brothers (GT)
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Re: Your toughts on those fights

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:04 pm

mirai.popo wrote:Want to know what are your toughts on those:

1) PUI PUI vs JEICE and BUTTER

2) Paikuhan vs perfect CELL (before-zenkai boost)

3) a par of CELL JR vs GOTEN and TRUNKS (without fusion)

4) FREEZA (namek saga) vs ABO and KADO

6) YAJIROBI vs TAO PAI PAI

7) REJJIK (GT) vs Perfect CELL (before-zenkai boost)

8) Guldo vs Para Para Brothers (GT)
- Pui Pui's got no chance. Either Jeice or Burter could kick his ass with ease
- Pikkon one shots
- If this is Base Goten and Trunks Pre-ROSAT, the Cell Jrs. takes this.
- And form of Freeza beyond his First Form and Freeza stomps.
- Tao Pai Pai gets wrecked.
- Ledgic. My gut tells me so.
- Guldo freezes time and drops a steamroller on the Para Para Brothers

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hot Rod » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:59 pm

Goku and Vegeta beyond Gods (from Dragon Ball Online, moments before they leave Earth for good - Age 801) vs Beerus and Wiss.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:21 pm

Hot Rod wrote:Goku and Vegeta beyond Gods (from Dragon Ball Online, moments before they leave Earth for good - Age 801) vs Beerus and Wiss.
Beerus alone takes this with ease.

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Post by ThePiccolo » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:27 pm

Hot Rod wrote:Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan vs Super Saiyan 4 Broly.
Gohan.
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches :

- Kid Gohan (Android Arc) vs. Base Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- Hypothetical SSj Kid Gohan (Android Arc) and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) and SSj Mirai Trunks (Android Arc)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell (vs.Goku) and MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games) vs. 7 Cell Jrs.
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. 100% Final Form Freeza (Namek)
- Piccolo (Android Arc,Pre Kami fusion) vs. SSj Goku (Yardrat)
- Piccolo (Cell Games) vs. 50% MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta (Post ROSAT 1st Time) vs. SSj Grade 3 Mirai Trunks (Post ROSAT 1st Time)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Dr.Gero (Post Absorption) and Android 19 (Post Absorption)
- SSj Vegeta (Android Arc) vs. Mirai Android 18 (vs.Mirai Gohan/Trunks)
-Trunks should have the higher base, and would probably win easy
-Gonna say Vegeta and Trunks on this one
-Gohan would probably get overwhelmed
-I feel like 7 Cell Jrs are too much, so they win
-Piccolo
-Close, but Goku wins
-A long and hard fight, but I feel like Piccolo might win
-Vegeta would probably be smart enough to let Trunks burn through his energy, giving Vegeta the win
-The androids would probably work together really well, and get energy from Vegeta, giving them the win
-Very close, but 18's stamina would probably let her win
mirai.popo wrote:Want to know what are your toughts on those:

1) PUI PUI vs JEICE and BUTTER

2) Paikuhan vs perfect CELL (before-zenkai boost)

3) a par of CELL JR vs GOTEN and TRUNKS (without fusion)

4) FREEZA (namek saga) vs ABO and KADO

6) YAJIROBI vs TAO PAI PAI

7) REJJIK (GT) vs Perfect CELL (before-zenkai boost)
- Jeice and Burter together would beat Pui-Pui pretty easily. Even separately, they might win
- Pikkon's burning shoot would beat this Cell easier.
-I'm gonna say the Cell Jrs
- I'll say Frieza will need around 20% to effortlessly beat the 2
- Yajirobe stomps
- Ledgic

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Post by apex_pretador » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:22 am


new battles (no planet destruction)


FUSION DANCE VS CHARACTER :

1. saibamen dance vs dodoria
2. cell Jr dance vs ultimate gohan
3. krillin goku (BoDB) vs daimao
4. nail - piccolo vs 2nd form freeza
5. roshi - crane hermit vs raditz
6. base gotenks pre vs FP PC


POTARA VS CHARACTER :

1. SS3 vegetto vs SS3 gokuhan
2. piccolo x nail vs pre death vegeta
3. CG vegetrunks SS vs buuhan
4. cui x dodoria vs 1st form freeza
5. tien x krillin vs piccolo , CG
6. ozaru nappageta vs 2nd form freeza
7. GT SS3 vegetto vs beerus
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Post by DanielSSJ » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:49 am

apex_pretador wrote:
new battles (no planet destruction)


FUSION DANCE VS CHARACTER :

1. saibamen dance vs dodoria
2. cell Jr dance vs ultimate gohan
3. krillin goku (BoDB) vs daimao
4. nail - piccolo vs 2nd form freeza
5. roshi - crane hermit vs raditz
6. base gotenks pre vs FP PC


POTARA VS CHARACTER :

1. SS3 vegetto vs SS3 gokuhan
2. piccolo x nail vs pre death vegeta
3. CG vegetrunks SS vs buuhan
4. cui x dodoria vs 1st form freeza
5. Tenshinhan x krillin vs piccolo , CG
6. ozaru nappageta vs 2nd form freeza
7. GT SS3 vegetto vs beerus
My standard Fusion formula is the weaker character times 10. So with that in mind...

1. The Saibaiman fusion is less than Saiyan Arc Vegeta, much less Dedoria
2. Cell Jr fusion ends up stronger than Fat Boo, weaker than SSJ3 Goku, and about even with SSJ Gotenks, post RoSaT. Ultimate Gohan stomps.
3. Unless if there is a full moon out, Daimao stomps.
4. Nailcolo ends up at less than Freeza's fisrt form.
5. Roshi and Crane hermit end up being a bit weaker than Raditz, but with their techniques and experience, they might pull a win.
6. Base Gotenks is less than the kids as Super Saiyans, so Cell stomps and he stomps hard.

Potara is a bit trickier to figure out. I firmly believe that there is no real formula for this one. The power boost is dependent on how close the fusees are in strength, among other things. Basing this on my gut and nothing more, I'd say...

1. Despite the fact that Goku and Vegeta are closer in power than Goku and Gohan, a hypothetical SSJ3 Gokhan would be ridiculously powerful, and end up schooling Vegetto.
2. A Piccolo/Nail Potara fusion would put him at least on par with Freeza Arc base Goku. Picail stomps.
3. A Cell Games SSJ Vegetrunks ends up about as powerful as Ultimate Gohan. Gohan Boo stomps.
4. Basing off power alone, Kidoria should get up to Freeza Arc base Goku at least, but being completely different species makes me think he'd be less powerful. Even so, the fusion stomps on 1st Form Freeza.
5. Kurishinhan ends up weaker than Freeza or the Base Saiyans, so Piccolo stomps.
6. Ozaru Napgeta ends up stronger than Freeza Arc base Goku, so he stomps on 2nd Form Freeza.
7. I'm not gonna even attempt to apply logic to GT power levels, so pass.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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apex_pretador wrote:
new battles (no planet destruction)


FUSION DANCE VS CHARACTER :

1. saibamen dance vs dodoria
2. cell Jr dance vs ultimate gohan
3. krillin goku (BoDB) vs daimao
4. nail - piccolo vs 2nd form freeza
5. roshi - crane hermit vs raditz
6. base gotenks pre vs FP PC


POTARA VS CHARACTER :

1. SS3 vegetto vs SS3 gokuhan
2. piccolo x nail vs pre death vegeta
3. CG vegetrunks SS vs buuhan
4. cui x dodoria vs 1st form freeza
5. Tenshinhan x krillin vs piccolo , CG
6. ozaru nappageta vs 2nd form freeza
7. GT SS3 vegetto vs beerus
FUSION DANCE VS CHARACTER :

1. saibamen dance < dodoria
2. cell Jr dance > ultimate gohan
3. krillin goku (BoDB) < daimao
4. nail - piccolo < 2nd form freeza
5. roshi - crane hermit < raditz
6. base gotenks pre < FP PC


POTARA VS CHARACTER :

1. SS3 vegetto > SS3 gokuhan
2. piccolo x nail < pre death vegeta
3. CG vegetrunks SS < buuhan
4. cui x dodoria < 1st form freeza
5. Tenshinhan x krillin < piccolo , CG
6. ozaru nappageta < 2nd form freeza
7. GT SS3 vegetto >>>>>>>>>> beerus

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:35 am

Piccolo (Cell Games) with Kaioken x10 runs the gaunlet :

- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Perfect Cell
- Super Perfect Cell
- SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Majin Vegeta
- Good Boo
- Grey Boo
- SSj3 Goku (Boo Saga)

Bonus : Piccolo runs the gaunlet again,except this time,he is now Kaioken x20,will he clear ?

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Post by apex_pretador » Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:52 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Piccolo (Cell Games) with Kaioken x10 runs the gaunlet :

- MSSJ Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Perfect Cell
- Super Perfect Cell
- SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Majin Vegeta
- Good Boo
- Grey Boo
- SSj3 Goku (Boo Saga)

Bonus : Piccolo runs the gaunlet again,except this time,he is now Kaioken x20,will he clear ?
I have him around 50% FP PC at CG. As weird as it sounds, he has a chance to clear at KK x10 (trouble at boo's), & destroys everyone plus super buu & maybe even Ult gohan at KK x20
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