Stuff that makes no sense in Super

[Nex Carnifex]

-Super Saiyan God: Apparently according to Saiyan mythology when a bunch of nice Saiyans come together they can make a super saiyan god. Well first of all we don't know why kind hearted Saiyans can somehow give birth to a "god" saiyan, whatever that means, I mean Beerus is a god and has god ki and yet he is not kind at all. Second it seems a bit overkill to create a warrior surpassing Majin Buu just to fight a bunch of evil Saiyans, and even then this super saiyan god of legend apparently failed because of a time limit. I mean damn, must have been quite a lot of evil saiyans or this super saiyan god a legend was just really incompetent.

Third what the hell happened to this legendary super saiyan mythos, why was that passed down when the super saiyan god is like 100000000000000x stronger? If the Namekians knew about it they could have used the dragon balls to bring back to life these righteous saiyans and have them do the ritual to defeat the androids and majin buu. GT made it so the legendary super saiyan was actually a golden Oozaru, which was naturally more powerful and unstable than an ordinary ascended saiyan, but controlling that power gave birth to a super saiyan 4, way more creative imo.

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[kei17]

To me, the show itself never makes any sense.

[Hellspawn28]

Second it seems a bit overkill to create a warrior surpassing Majin Buu

And yet Dr. Myuu created a machine mutant stronger then Buu in GT. Your point?

[Wezenheim]

Second it seems a bit overkill to create a warrior surpassing Majin Buu

And yet Dr. Myuu created a machine mutant stronger then Buu in GT. Your point?

This entire thread is just silly given the nature of the series, but I sadly think that arguments are going to fall on deaf ears here and it just isn't worth the time or the effort.

[jjgp1112]

I think I, along with everyone else here, have completely lost sight of what you're trying to accomplish with these threads, Nex.

[Vijay]

To me, the show itself never makes any sense.

I was gonna say da same thing.

The surpassing Majin Buu & overkill thing. Yeah. I get ur point

But I also buy Myuu & Gero's creation Super 17 being greater than Buu, cuz execution matters

Majin Buu in his purest, original state was on equal ground against SSJ3 Goku

While Super 17 ROFL Stomped SSJ4 Goku. Now thats a pretty big gap/margin

Though I do place my doubt when Goku flat-out said Rildo's chi was bigger than Buu. Dats messed up

You wanna know whats da 1 thing which doesnt make sense in Super

How dafuq they turned a funny & charming hero like Goku into an obnoxious, border-line annoying hero?

Lets face it. Son Goku is a feather-weight character. Yet Nozawa-san infused so much charm & warmth into the character which masks his flaws to a great extent & elevates Son Goku into a different dimension

But in Super, not even Nozawa-san couldnt save Goku frm falling into "obnoxious" hero pitfall

[Lord Beerus]

I think I, along with everyone else here, have completely lost sight of what you're trying to accomplish with these threads, Nex.

You read my mind. I apologize for sounding impartial, but threads like these seem like they were created for the sake of complaining and not for a creative discussion. We get it Nex Carnifex, you don't like Dragon Ball Super. And for the record, the concept of the Super Saiyan God was introduced in Battle Of Gods, not Dragon Ball Super. Super Saiyan God is no more a contrived power up than anything else we have already seen in Dragon Ball.

[Khin]

Not this shit again.

- As Lord Beerus said,the SSjG comes first from Battle of Gods not Super.
- A human scientist was able to create a robot capable of one shotting a guy who destroys planet with 0 effort.
- A random alien in GT was stronger than the Majin Boo.
- Android 17 + Android 18 + Cell = SSj2 tier.Android 17 + Android 17 = SSj4 tier.Wait what ?

[Ssgvegito30]

This thread is just lame the show itself doesn't make sense if you have to complain about something than do it where it matters just fucking enjoy the show for what it is

[emperior]

- The Super Saiyan God was introduced in Battle of Gods and in Super the Original one was not mentioned yet. It was explained in BoG that the Original SSG couldn't win because of the time limits of the transformation, and so he got killed by evil Saiyans grouping him as Oozarus.
- The Namekians didn't know of the Super Saiyan God myth. Not even Vegeta knew. The myth was written on the Namekian Book of Legends but who knows where that book is, it could have been destroyed by the great cataclysm of Namek (when Kami was sent to Earth)
The Super Saiyan legend though was rumored all around the universe and only Grand Elder Guru knew the legend, we don't know how. Saiyans knew of the legend, Freeza too knew of the legend.
While GT's SSJ4 makes sense, Super too makes sense and Super is surely more consistent than GT ever was.

[VegettoEX]

This thread is just lame the show itself doesn't make sense if you have to complain about something than do it where it matters just fucking enjoy the show for what it is

This really doesn't help, and likely just fuels the flames of what the original author is going for (read: attention).

-Super Saiyan God: Apparently according to Saiyan mythology when a bunch of nice Saiyans come together they can make a super saiyan god. Well first of all we don't know why kind hearted Saiyans can somehow give birth to a "god" saiyan, whatever that means, I mean Beerus is a god and has god ki and yet he is not kind at all. Second it seems a bit overkill to create a warrior surpassing Majin Buu just to fight a bunch of evil Saiyans, and even then this super saiyan god of legend apparently failed because of a time limit. I mean damn, must have been quite a lot of evil saiyans or this super saiyan god a legend was just really incompetent.

Third what the hell happened to this legendary super saiyan mythos, why was that passed down when the super saiyan god is like 100000000000000x stronger? If the Namekians knew about it they could have used the dragon balls to bring back to life these righteous saiyans and have them do the ritual to defeat the androids and majin buu. GT made it so the legendary super saiyan was actually a golden Oozaru, which was naturally more powerful and unstable than an ordinary ascended saiyan, but controlling that power gave birth to a super saiyan 4, way more creative imo.

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We're clearly at a point where you're in full-on "please validate me!!!" territory. You post the exact same things over and over and over and over and over. When you're so vulgar that it gets shut down (or prove that you're a sexist pig with absolutely no idea what you're talking about), you try a slightly different tactic. We see right through it. You have a single note that you sing over and over and over. You are that person who hates all the new stuff and really, really, really wants everyone to know that.

The thing is, there are perfectly fine ways to approach the subject if you really want, and are genuinely interested in what other people have to say, rather than it being a totally transparent cry for validation. Perhaps you're confusing "being critical" with "being a critic". Perhaps you just hate everything. Let's just be real: what do you want?

• Do you just want someone to tell you that you're right? If so, buck up kiddo, and like what you want to like. You have my permission to like or not like things.
• Do you just want to be an obnoxious, snot-nosed kid? If you're going to troll, do it. Either actually waste our time in a meaningful way, or don't. It's just sad, now.

[ArchedThunder]

- The Super Saiyan God was introduced in Battle of Gods and in Super the Original one was not mentioned yet. It was explained in BoG that the Original SSG couldn't win because of the time limits of the transformation, and so he got killed by evil Saiyans grouping him as Oozarus.
- The Namekians didn't know of the Super Saiyan God myth. Not even Vegeta knew. The myth was written on the Namekian Book of Legends but who knows where that book is, it could have been destroyed by the great cataclysm of Namek (when Kami was sent to Earth)
The Super Saiyan legend though was rumored all around the universe and only Grand Elder Guru knew the legend, we don't know how. Saiyans knew of the legend, Freeza too knew of the legend.
While GT's SSJ4 makes sense, Super too makes sense and Super is surely more consistent than GT ever was.

I'll piggy back off of this and add some more.

-Beerus not being pure hearted is entirely irrelevant to God Ki, a pure heart is not necessary to have God Ki, it's just that pure hearted Saiyans are required for the Super Saiyan God ritual.
-Even if Guru did know about Super Saiyan God (which we have no idea if he did) it wouldn't really make any sense for him to bring it up while he was alive, there were only 2 and a half Saiyans on Namek, one of which was evil and there was probably no way for Guru to know if a half Saiyan would even count for the ritual.
-We don't know how powerful the original Super Saiyan God was, he could have been weaker than Buu, the power of a Saiyan's God form could be their base power multiplied by a certain number.
-There is no reason for the Saiyans to have passed down the legend of the Super Saiyan God because it was something used by the good Saiyans who were their enemies that they wiped out, plus they might not have even known about Super Saiyan God, the first Super Saiyan God might have shown up to the battle as a God giving no explanation to his enemies as to what he had become.

[dbgtFO]

When you're so vulgar that it gets shut down (or prove that you're a sexist pig with absolutely no idea what you're talking about), you try a slightly different tactic.

Mike, just an observation here, but that link leads to the moderator control panel, which thankfully we mere mortals don't have access to.

[VegettoEX]

When you're so vulgar that it gets shut down (or prove that you're a sexist pig with absolutely no idea what you're talking about), you try a slightly different tactic.

Mike, just an observation here, but that link leads to the moderator control panel, which thankfully we mere mortals don't have access to.

Well hey, thanks! Proof that I'm an idiot and shouldn't be taken seriously! ^_~

[Basaku]

Here's one - Turnks and Goten stuck in potato bodies. Nope, it does not make sense, not when we already saw how other hybrids Gohan/Pan/Bra look like at 10-14 years old (all designed by Toriyama himself) and most importantly Trunks from Cell saga lol.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Here's one - Turnks and Goten stuck in potato bodies. Nope, it does not make sense, not when we already saw how other hybrids Gohan/Pan/Bra look like at 10-14 years old (all designed by Toriyama himself) and most importantly Trunks from Cell saga lol.

As much as I'm ready and want to see older Goten and Trunks designs, at least there's a little bit of room to fudge with them, given Saiyan aging (just because Gohan aged more like a normal human doesn't mean Goten and Trunks would. With Trunks it's a little more questionable given we've seen his alternate self, but eh). The one that's really stuck in a potato body is poor Marron. Heck, she actually looks younger than she did in Z.

[Dorexx]

Nowhere is it implied nor does it have to be the case that the former God Saiyan was anywhere near as powerful as Majin Buu. (neither is General Rildo, except according to certain fans who decide to interpret a conversation between a grandpa and his granddaughter literally without even considering any other possibilities, because DBGT must have faults for us to hate it)

[IM21]

if Bulla won't be born soon it will totally destroy the EOZ, so Bulma not being pregnant makes not sense.

[dbgtFO]

Nowhere is it implied nor does it have to be the case that the former God Saiyan was anywhere near as powerful as Majin Buu. (neither is General Rildo, except according to certain fans who decide to interpret a conversation between a grandpa and his granddaughter literally without even considering any other possibilities, because DBGT must have faults for us to hate it)

I agree the Original Super Saiyan could even have been weaker than Freeza's first form!
I don't get your point about Rildo, though, as Goku flat out stated his ki was greater than Buu's.

if Bulla won't be born soon it will totally destroy the EOZ, so Bulma not being pregnant makes not sense.

True. Hopefully they'll remember and we'll get Bra in the arc after this.

[Pannaliciour]

Bringing back Captain Ginyu in somebody else body is the worst thing that happen in Super.

The rest is creating a story to become powerfull (ssj god).