Shueisha, Toei and Bandai are probably all pretty terrified of Toriyama jumping ship right now. I feel like that's a weird thing to leave in the book if they have no plans to up the quality for the next arc.LightBing wrote:Yes! I hope that scares them a bit. Would they say anything if he jumped ship? I hope the next arc is, at least, 90% consistent.
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I'm almost certain that's going to be the case, sadly.TripleRach wrote:I'm just worried this is going to be misconstrued into "Toriyama called Super worthless garbage that destroyed his vision!! Confirmed for non-canon!!!"
That aside though, it is intriguing that he actually addressed them about something about it anyway. Hopefully this works out to them listening to him and fixing whatever needs fixing, rather than the two forces butting heads and making Toriyama feel at odds with the franchise again.
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Do somebody know if its true that Gohan is going to train with Piccolo?
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its trueChillekasper wrote:Do somebody know if its true that Gohan is going to train with Piccolo?
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Yes, correct. And according to Herms: "Gohan also apologies that Piccolo died because of him, but Piccolo says Gohan fought as hard as he could."Chillekasper wrote:Do somebody know if its true that Gohan is going to train with Piccolo?
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That's incredible, I'm glad the acknowledged it. I don't know what are the chances of Toei doing something different from now on, though.
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WOW thx!!!Ajay wrote:Yes, correct. And according to Herms: "Gohan also apologies that Piccolo died because of him, but Piccolo says Gohan fought as hard as he could."Chillekasper wrote:Do somebody know if its true that Gohan is going to train with Piccolo?

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Well, I didn't see this coming. I wonder if Kido is running around trying to get better staff now. We know things haven't changed yet based on Hamakawa's Tweet, though.Ajay wrote:The translation thanks to Kei17:
I'm shocked.Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone.
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I'd be in awe if this gets them to funnel some of the super talented Precure staff into Super for the Uni 6 arc.
I get the impression this year's Precure with its witches is going to be light on the fighting/battle, which is already weird for Precure to be. It'd be interesting if that tied into this.
I get the impression this year's Precure with its witches is going to be light on the fighting/battle, which is already weird for Precure to be. It'd be interesting if that tied into this.
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Oh that is just amazing. Even he knows Super is not getting the treatment it deserves.Ajay wrote:The translation thanks to Kei17:
I'm shocked.Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone.
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This might shut up all those idiots posting stuff like "Toriyama doesn't care about Dragon Ball". The guy just created the a story with the greatest world-building he ever did and now complains when the anime doesn't do things right. If anything, he seems to care more than he ever did. As if the man did not already have my respect, but this just proves how amazing not only as an artist he is, but also as a person. I tip my hat to the man for his artistic integrity (and I am in the camp that likes Super)!
EDIT: Does anybody know when the quote was stated? Was it recently (as in the last couple of weeks) or before the New Year? I guess it should have been at the very least early December.
EDIT: Does anybody know when the quote was stated? Was it recently (as in the last couple of weeks) or before the New Year? I guess it should have been at the very least early December.
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You think this is why ep27 turned out the way it did ? if that's why then this show has a very bright future ahead of it.
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Turned out how? It's no better than any other episode in the last ten episodes.sintzu wrote:You think this is why ep27 turned out the way it did ? if that's why then this show has a very bright future ahead of it.
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I never thought this day would came, but I guess even Toriyama has his limits
I'm surprised he still cares that much about Dragon Ball.
Judging by his last interviews, seems like only when BOG was released, he realized how big this series still is worldwide. I'm glady he had the balls to say it.
People that say awful things like: "Toriyama should retire; Toriyama doesn't care anymore; etc.." can finally shut up.
Dragon Ball is making money for 30+ years. Things like Super episode 5 should never happen. Even in the blu-ray release not everything was fixed.
Fans have been supporting the franchise and have the right to complain. And when the creator himself comes to the frontlines, that's the red warning.
This probably won't do much, but at least Toriyama had the balls do it! All hail, Akira Toriyama.
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I'm surprised he still cares that much about Dragon Ball.
Judging by his last interviews, seems like only when BOG was released, he realized how big this series still is worldwide. I'm glady he had the balls to say it.
People that say awful things like: "Toriyama should retire; Toriyama doesn't care anymore; etc.." can finally shut up.
Dragon Ball is making money for 30+ years. Things like Super episode 5 should never happen. Even in the blu-ray release not everything was fixed.
Fans have been supporting the franchise and have the right to complain. And when the creator himself comes to the frontlines, that's the red warning.
This probably won't do much, but at least Toriyama had the balls do it! All hail, Akira Toriyama.
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I'd have to disagree with you, and the general consensus seems to agree. Episode 27 was massively better than what we've gotten for awhile.JulieYBM wrote:Turned out how? It's no better than any other episode in the last ten episodes.sintzu wrote:You think this is why ep27 turned out the way it did ? if that's why then this show has a very bright future ahead of it.
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Not only does it put the majority of Super to shame but it's also among the best episodes in the entire franchise.JulieYBM wrote:Turned out how? It's no better than any other episode in the last ten episodes.sintzu wrote:You think this is why ep27 turned out the way it did ? if that's why then this show has a very bright future ahead of it.
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I... think that seriously overstates that episode. At least to the point that just because Toriyama spoke against the show, then that's the reason that episode is better than the usual stuff it churns out.sintzu wrote:Not only does it put the majority of Super to shame but it's also among the best episodes in the entire franchise.JulieYBM wrote:Turned out how? It's no better than any other episode in the last ten episodes.sintzu wrote:You think this is why ep27 turned out the way it did ? if that's why then this show has a very bright future ahead of it.
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Reading his interviews in recent years, where he complained about Goku's treatment in the anime, among other things, it's pretty clear that Toriyama cares, or at least started caring about the franchise after Evolution. I'm honestly not surprised if he's following Super's production very closely - and in fact his quote validates the opposite of not-canon: if he didn't take it into account, he could just leave it alone, like he did with GT, where he never bothered to care or give any input at all.
As for episode 27, it was certainly much better than 24-26, but on par with the best episodes of the series, at most.
As for episode 27, it was certainly much better than 24-26, but on par with the best episodes of the series, at most.
You're also overstating Toriwayam's quote. Being involved because he expects the best quality as possible from it is quite a bit different from "spoke against the show".Kamen Rider Revolver wrote:I... think that seriously overstates that episode. At least to the point that just because Toriyama spoke against the show, then that's the reason that episode is better than the usual stuff it churns out.
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This will definitely have a very positive impact on the story's quality cause he's not just doing it for the $$$, he's doing it because he wants to and he likes what he's doing.Draconic wrote:The guy just created the a story with the greatest world-building he ever did and now complains when the anime doesn't do things right. If anything, he seems to care more than he ever did.
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