Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
DBS,DB,Kai,DBZ or GT ? What are your favorite series out of these 5 ?
Mine would be.
1. Dragon Ball Kai (Mainly due to it's pacing being way better than Z)
2. Dragon Ball Z
3. Dragon Ball Super
4. Dragon Ball
5. Dragon Ball GT
Note : All of them are subbed version.
I'm interested to know
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I'd say the Dragon Ball anime is probably my favorite. The first half of the manga is my favorite too, but even then I think Dragon Ball as a whole was adapted a bit better than Z. I've said before that the Saiyan arc in Z is probably my favorite arc in the anime series, but I also think that the Freeza arc got very, very tedious in some parts. That isn't to say that the Dragon Ball anime didn't suffer from the same problem sometimes, but it was usually more bearable, at least to me.
I like Kai because we got an improved English dub (at least in my opinion), a better Freeza arc, and some cool insert songs, but I still prefer the original Z.
Outside of certain segments, I didn't really care for GT. I don't despise it, but I also can't say I enjoy it. I liked some of the fights, the concept of Super Saiyan 4, and the interesting soundtrack from Tokunaga, but not a ton else. I will also say that Dan Dan Kokoro Hikareteku is one of my favorite openings in Dragon Ball.
It's far too soon to say anything about Super, since we're still in the early stages, but I hated the Resurrection 'F' arc. I liked the Battle of Gods arc okay (especially the fight between SSJ God Goku and Beerus), but I preferred the movie. Can't comment on the Universe 6 stuff yet, it's just too soon. Even then, it'll be very difficult for Super to surpass its predecessors in my eyes outside of GT. I like some of what I see, but not everything. We'll see.
Obviously DB & Z. They're both in a league of their own unrivalled by practically none of its succesors. The heart & soul of its creator/makers are evident in these series.
I consider GT to work in bits & parts. Has its share of ups & downs (90%), but largely a forgettable series.
Kai & Super are in a league of their own. Long story short, mere cash cows. Which isnt something I'd associate to "favourite" list as the heart & soul is stripped. Instead, replaced with merchandise & sales
First of all, I acknowledge that as far as storytelling goes DB is the best.
That said Z is the first series I was introduced to, and thus I have the most nostalgia for it, plus the great moments of execution stay with you.
As of now I do prefer Kai to Z, because I love how it was remastered, and knowing I can watch an accurate, well-acted English dub and get through the series in a relatively short space of time.
I have Super ahead of DB because I've loved Beerus and Champa ever since their introduction, and I do feel its existence is somewhat of a miracle after wanting a new series for so long. The opening and closing themes are also my favourite in the series at this point.
GT is the lowest because its really disappointing when your watching great concepts that are poorly executed (DBZ is the opposite, and that's why its a more entertaining series even if it has the same problems with plotholes, etc.). I do love Dan Dan Kokoro, and the final episode.
Overall my order of preference is:
1. DB Kai
2. DBZ
3. DBS
4. DB
5. DBGT
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I haven't seen enough of Kai to really care for it and either way it is just Z with the majority of the filler cut out, so I really see no reason to judge it as a separate entity.
Super I haven't seen at all sense I am waiting for a more legal means to watch it (Either simulcast/streaming or a Dub.) But going just off what I see and hear, I'd have to rank it at the bottom, starting the first series in years with retellings of movies we just saw really doesn't sit well with me.
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1. DBZ Kai
2. DBZ
3. Dragon Ball
4. GT
5. Super (For now unless the new material redeems it for being shit)
Quality wise
1. Dragon Ball
2. DBZ
3. Kai
4. GT
5. Super
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
1. DBZ Kai
2. DB (though only the second half starting from Tien)
3. DBGT
4. Original DBZ (the only reason why I put GT above the original Z cuz I think the Funi dub there is better)
Can't comment on Super since I haven't watched it, and honestly, I don't plan to anytime soon unless I hear something big.
Akira Toriyama wrote:If anyone. ANYONE AT TOEI! Makes a movie about old and weak major villains returning, or making recolored versions of Super Saiyan, I'ma come to yo company and evict you from doing Dragon Ball ever again! Only I do those things, because people love me, and they despise you....derp!
Marco Polo wrote:Goku Black is a fan of DBZ who hates Super and has taken the form of a younger Goku (thinner shape, softer hair) to avenge the original series by destroying the new.
1. Dragon Ball
2. Dragon Ball Kai
3. Dragon Ball Z
4. Dragon Ball GT
I will rank Super when it finishes its run.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
1. DBZ Kai (ENG w/ Yamamoto)
2. DBZ (Funi dub)
3. DBZ (Jap version)
4. DBZ Kai (ENG w/ Kikuchi)
5. DB (only watched English version)
6. DBGT (Japanese)
7. Super (so far...)
8. DBGT (English)
"Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone." - Akira Toriyama on Dragon Ball Super
1. Dragon Ball
2. Dragon Ball Z (Very close second)
3. Dragon Ball Super (So Far)
4. Dragon Ball Kai (English, I don't care for the Japanese version of Kai)
5. Dragon Ball GT
Also I think the word "series" in the title of this thread should be renamed to "anime" because there is only one Dragon Ball series.
Z (though I'm starting to lean towards the first show more these days)
DB
Kai
GT
Super
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am
I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.