Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

[dbzfan7]

The bog arc was alright had it's flaws but was alright rof was flat out fucking terrible though. U6 is where whether or not super could be better than z or worse than gt.

See, I felt the exact opposite. I fell behind for WEEKS on Super during the Battle of Gods stuff because I was bored out of my mind. That's not to say I found the Freeza stuff positively mentally simulating beyond all comprehension, but I at least never fell behind more than a couple weeks on it, and I at least smiled, like, once per episode. That's... something... I guess...

Not going strictly on quality, but could this be perhaps because the F arc had more interesting changes than the BOG arc, which felt more safe?

[pacz360]

The bog arc was alright had it's flaws but was alright rof was flat out fucking terrible though. U6 is where whether or not super could be better than z or worse than gt.

See, I felt the exact opposite. I fell behind for WEEKS on Super during the Battle of Gods stuff because I was bored out of my mind. That's not to say I found the Freeza stuff positively mentally simulating beyond all comprehension, but I at least never fell behind more than a couple weeks on it, and I at least smiled, like, once per episode. That's... something... I guess...

I could understand as I said super version of bog had it's flaws but overall was alright to me but rof uhhhh literally one of the worst arc of the franchise ever I literally wished that didn't exist whatsoever the only time I felt happiness of it was when it was over.

[DBZ_323]

Not at all, Super is far too comedy reliant most of the time (there's a reason why the more serious DBZ was more popular than the humourous DB) and besides, the power levels make no sense. Beerus and Whis are overpowered to the point where it doesn't make any sense and honestly Beerus' character annoys me. Even if I did like the story, I still wouldn't like Super as the story's already been told better in the movies. At least BOG and ROF didn't drag on and on with pointless, non-entertaining fillers. Not to be a hater but Super's really disappointed me, I even liked GT better than this.

[IM21]

Not so much. They focus way too much on comedy and eating. I know Beerus and Whis love food but c'mon, not every scene they are in has to have food. Also they try to make Goku look like a retard most of the time. I guess they wanna make it look more like Dragon Ball or something but for me it's not working.

[sintzu]

Not so much. They focus way too much on comedy and eating. I know Beerus and Whis love food but c'mon, not every scene they are in has to have food. Also they try to make Goku look like a retard most of the time.

All the characters are written as exaggerated parodies of themselves.

Goku is known for not being very bright so in Super he's a complete brain dead retard.

Vegeta's out of character scenes in the BOG movie got popular so in Super he's acting like that even when he doesn't have to.

Gohan is known to be a slacker when it comes to training so in Super he's as useful as Yamcha.

Chi Chi is known to be a strict mother and wife so in Super all she does is scream and act like a maniac anytime she's on screen.

Bulma is known for her rude attitude so in Super all she does is hit Jaco anytime she sees him.

Beerus & Whis love earth's food so in Super all they do is eat.

There's nothing wrong with Super wanting to be funny cause the original was as well but unlike Super the comedy was well placed and when it happened it was funny.

[Lord Beerus]

All the characters are written as exaggerated parodies of themselves.

Goku is known for not being very bright so in Super he's a complete brain dead retard.

Vegeta's out of character scenes in the BOG movie got popular so in Super he's acting like that even when he doesn't have to.

Gohan is known to be a slacker when it comes to training so in Super he's as useful as Yamcha.

Chi Chi is known to be a strict mother and wife so in Super all she does is scream and act like a maniac anytime she's on screen.

Bulma is known for her rude attitude so in Super all she does is hit Jaco anytime she sees him.

Beerus & Whis love earth's food so in Super all they do is eat.

There's nothing wrong with Super wanting to be funny cause the original was as well but unlike Super the comedy was well placed and when it happened it was funny.

I don't agree that any of this except for Chi Chi. And even Chi Chi knows when to mellow out from time to time. I mean, since when has Goku acted like a complete brain dead retard In Super?

[Beerus-sama]

Forget the animation quality just look at the story so far, are you happy with it as an addition to the dragon ball canon or do you wish it never existed?

Mostly not, and I'm talking about the retellings. Now with the new story, sometimes I wish it was more like the manga.
For now if I only count the new material I will give it a 6.5-7/10

Not so much. They focus way too much on comedy and eating. I know Beerus and Whis love food but c'mon, not every scene they are in has to have food. Also they try to make Goku look like a retard most of the time.

All the characters are written as exaggerated parodies of themselves.

Goku is known for not being very bright so in Super he's a complete brain dead retard.

Vegeta's out of character scenes in the BOG movie got popular so in Super he's acting like that even when he doesn't have to.

Gohan is known to be a slacker when it comes to training so in Super he's as useful as Yamcha.

Chi Chi is known to be a strict mother and wife so in Super all she does is scream and act like a maniac anytime she's on screen.

Bulma is known for her rude attitude so in Super all she does is hit Jaco anytime she sees him.

Beerus & Whis love earth's food so in Super all they do is eat.

There's nothing wrong with Super wanting to be funny cause the original was as well but unlike Super the comedy was well placed and when it happened it was funny.

Goku is mostly like a child being rude to people for things he wants (going to train with Whis, having to go to the bathroom, wanting to meet Monaca and fighting, training with Kaiosama,...)

Vegeta's antics sure got weird when he was showing the food to Whis, and him being extremely scared of Beerus is other thing I don't like about Super's Vegeta... other than those episodes he hasn't been out of character for me...

The thing with Gohan sure is sad

I agree with the Chi Chi one

The Bulma thing is also sad, but in wichever other scene where Jaco isn't around she's awesome.

The Beerus and Whis thing with food doesn't annoy me, although it would also be cool if they weren't eating or talking about food whenever they're shown.
What does annoy me is that Beerus in Super is more of a jerk, specially with Vegeta, and that him being a jerk serves for making Vegeta/Bulma moments at times...
Also I miss polite and curious Beerus asking about food or whatever that caught his attention.
I guess the only time he was curious in Super was when Whis was watching Bulma's message with that Sundae, and when he asked Whis about visiting earth while he was sleeping, oh, and him asking Whis how many times have he eated the food... ok, maybe he is curious, but not as much as I like , I want Beerus asking more about normal things, its always fun to see .

Whis in Super is more mannered than the movies at times, also a bit eccentric when he's tasting new food that it makes me feel unconfortable

[omaro34]

I'm more accustomed to the original English dub, Chris Sabat, Bruce Falcouner music style DBZ, so this is different for me. I do like the new concepts, I think Toriyama just gave Toei tons of ways to push the story in the right direction for the next while.

The comedy is a little too much for me. But maybe I'll grow to like it more as time goes on.

[TheMikado]

Personally I'm tired of Frieza and his race. Frieza has literally been mentioned in every Arc so far and even starred in one.. I'm pretty tired of him between his multiple appearances in movies and GT, plus Cooler, King Cold, Mecha Frieza. How many time are they going to keep showing up? It feels like the Frieza/Frieza's race has been done to death, buried, then resurrected multiple times with the dragonballs. At this point I'm expecting him to turn good and join the Z fighters.

[Cold Skin]

^ Which is what Frost is here for, which is a terrific idea that should definately come to life. The Dragon Team deserves a nice Freezer of their own (except that Frost is much better than Freezer both physically and mentally so far).

Otherwise, I'd say the story of Super does capture the magic of Dragon Ball again.
You can definately feel that it all comes from Toriyama's plot outline and designs, and that doesn't feel at all like a wacky weird fan-fiction (unlike GT).
In other words, true Dragon Ball is back with all the magic from back then, give me more of that every week!

It is the true expansion of the universe with new mythology, new events, new places and new characters that we've been waiting for.

[TheMikado]

^ Which is what Frost is here for, which is a terrific idea that should definately come to life. The Dragon Team deserves a nice Freezer of their own (except that Frost is much better than Freezer both physically and mentally so far).

Otherwise, I'd say the story of Super does capture the magic of Dragon Ball again.
You can definately feel that it all comes from Toriyama's plot outline and designs, and that doesn't feel at all like a wacky weird fan-fiction (unlike GT).
In other words, true Dragon Ball is back with all the magic from back then, give me more of that every week!

It is the true expansion of the universe with new mythology, new events, new places and new characters that we've been waiting for.

I think my point was that the Freeza and all his forms and races are overused. Whether Frost is good or bad means little to me. I was hoping for some more interesting races and characters. Of the 10 fighters total only 4 are new races. Like we know Whis and Beerus have family are are more powerful than anything we've seen so far. Why wouldnt anyone from their races be represented in the tournament? Seriously, we have 3 (was going to be 4) saiyans and to our knowledge are not shown as gods in any universe yet.

Where are Whis and Beerus's races?

[Low Tone G]

I'm not satisfied, I'm enjoying it, but to be honest, not really great compared to DBZ, at least. The humor is much better than of GT's, but still... I don't really imagine how could this Super surprise us and most importantly, create tension.... It's enjoyable, but not awesome and genial, not even close.

[JulieYBM]

Barring a few of those Beers arc episodes I have been very pleased with the story. It is a shame the scripts and acting are the one consistly thing about the series.

[sintzu]

I'd say the story of Super does capture the magic of Dragon Ball again.

You can definitely feel that it all comes from Toriyama's plot outline and designs, and that doesn't feel at all like a wacky weird fan-fiction (unlike GT).

In other words, true Dragon Ball is back with all the magic from back then, give me more of that every week!

It is the true expansion of the universe with new mythology, new events, new places and new characters that we've been waiting for.

Couldn't agree more, it may be flawed but one thing it's doing right is feeling like the long awaited part 3 of the Dragon Ball story and I couldn't be happier cause that's what I've been wanting for the last 10 years.

To think we have DB evolution to thank for this.

[saiyanvegetable]

^ Which is what Frost is here for, which is a terrific idea that should definately come to life. The Dragon Team deserves a nice Freezer of their own (except that Frost is much better than Freezer both physically and mentally so far).

Otherwise, I'd say the story of Super does capture the magic of Dragon Ball again.
You can definately feel that it all comes from Toriyama's plot outline and designs, and that doesn't feel at all like a wacky weird fan-fiction (unlike GT).
In other words, true Dragon Ball is back with all the magic from back then, give me more of that every week!

It is the true expansion of the universe with new mythology, new events, new places and new characters that we've been waiting for.

A "good guy Frieza" is a terribly boring, terribly cliche idea that this franchise does not need. Of course, I wouldn't put it past Super..

Also, Frieza hasn't been "overused". At least not in the Z era - I thought his arc was great and was saddened to see him and his father reduced to such fodder against Trunks, especially when King Cold was such an interesting idea to play with. He was the series' iconic villain and his clash with Goku as a Super Saiyan probably one of the most iconic fights of the series, not to mention the epic struggle the Z fighters had against him. His lineage, however, has been shit on with the introduction of Chilled (another lame bullshit ass character), and his resurrection was sadly a very missed opportunity and executed so fucking poorly it makes me want to punch someone.

Everything in super has been shit so far. The story sucks, retelling or not, but episode 29 gave us a tiny, tiny gleam of hope (too bad the animation was, as usual, a piece of shit), the characters are shit, the fights are shit, the storytelling has been shit, etc. I can always forgive lackluster animation for a decent story the same way I can forgive mediocre graphics for good gameplay, but there has been virtually no saving grace whatsoever. The fights are abysmal. The "jokes", aka the nonsensical gags aimed at 3 year olds, are disgustingly painful to watch. Piccolo dying? Did you guys see how and why he died? What a fucking joke. Here's hoping for U6 but it's really sad that a fan comic like multiverse has already taken this concept and given us something more faithful to the source material and much more entertaining than Super has been in 31 episodes. The characters in multiverse actually act like themselves, the different universes are interesting and fit nicely into the lore, and I really wish THAT was animated (not by Toei) instead of this garbage. But I guess that's what happens when you put together people who actually love the series VS trying to create another mass produced money machine like Toei is doing.

[Chuquita]

I know I'm gonna feel sad if it turns out that they wasted an entire episode on Zuno and we only get not even half an episode on Gokû, Vegeta, and Piccolo's training for the tournament. I get it was probably done for budget reasons (voice actors are expensive); and I know people say Z was slow, but man I miss training episodes. How can I fully appreciate "the results of (their) training!" if I don't actually get to see enough of their training.

[ekrolo2]

The series needs a clear antagonist to beat or some objective to accomplish. Seeing the characters just do regular day stuff is fine and fun, but it's also created a major lack of urgency. Why are we fighting Beerus? Because why not. Why are we fighting Freeza'? Because why not? Why participate in this God pissing contest? Because why not!

Enough! This tournament needs to create a reason for stuff to happen that goes beyond "Why not?! It'll be fun!" and "FFFFFFOOOODDDDD!".

[Drayenko]

It is the true expansion of the universe.

I don't buy this. Everything that has been done since Battle of Gods makes the universe feel waaaaaaay smaller that it was. Even with the inclusion of new universes and whatnot, it is not being used in a way that gives a sense of "expansion." Specially when half the things that have happened in the universe have Beerus to blame, it's just not there.

Hell, GT's universe feels bigger that Super's.

The series needs a clear antagonist to beat or some objective to accomplish. Seeing the characters just do regular day stuff is fine and fun, but it's also created a major lack of urgency.

Yes but no. Personally, the only episodes I have enjoyed are the ones with no fighting at all. Those are the ones where the characters feel like themselves and not GTish, and plus, they don't disrupt the end of the manga. I could have a whole series with episodes like that and I know a lot of people feel the same way.

[fadeddreams5]

Only reason the fighting hasn't been enjoyable as opposed to slice of life is because all the battles have been poorly choreographed garbage with shitty animation. That, and the story cannot take itself seriously for 1 minute before cutting away to some gag. Super has done everything in its power to take away what was the most enjoyable part of DBZ. At least to me.


...But this tournament arc may compensate. It's got my attention, anyways.

[Bulma's Foot Masseur]

I definitely appreciate some of the lesser characters getting spotlight, like Piccolo's upcoming fight and Bulma's Dragon Ball search.