Freeza's race name?

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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:58 pm

Silver Sinspawn wrote:There are around about 50+ named races, even for characters like Rasin and Lakasei who if you recall, don't have a whole heap of screen time.
This isn't about screen time though. Most of the characters with confirmed race names are known to be part of that larger group of kin, even if they're currently the only known survivors or something. As much as I'd like one, there's no real need for Toriyama to come up with a race name if there are only two of their species, ever, in Universe 7. Which is why Frost and a potentially larger clan in Universe 6 could change things.
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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by samuo2 » Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:33 pm

I take advantage of this thread (Does this expression suits in this case ? :| ) to talk about a debate I met on other forum.

All start with a quote of Akira Toriyama:
Une forme de vie mutée
Saikyō Jump, March 2014 Issue, Episode of Bardock Super Kanzenban - Freeza est ce qu'on pourrait appeler une forme de vie mutée. Concrètement, le père de Freeza est un mutant avec une puissance de combat anormalement élevée. Freeza est né seulement de son père, également en forte possession de ces caractères mutants. Par conséquent, on ne peut pas parler de race de Freeza, ces deux-là sont les seuls qui possèdent un niveau anormal de puissance et de cruauté.
Source "Freeza is what you might call a mutated life-form"
Source: lunionsacre.net

So in English, to summarize: Freezer and Cold can't be classify as a "race", they are mutants who are the only to have great amont of Ki and cruelty.

For me, we can still class them, as a race, compose of 2 members, Cold and Freezer, as a new branch of this mutants race, with new feature so different than the mutants race wich they descend from, than this 2 entyties can be consider as an all new Race.

What do you think guys about it ? Your opinion interest me !
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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by Silver Sinspawn » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:19 am

dbgtFO wrote:
worldmonsters wrote:We're just going to have to see, but there never really was an opportunity to call Freeza and his species by their name in the series in contrast to Saiya-jin and Namekians, because when talking about them it would be in reference to a huge number of people, while we only see a few from Freeza's clan. Maybe because we're going to see someone of their species is not part of Freeza's clan we're going to get a name :o Well, the thing is, we just don't know :p We'll just have to wait and see.
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I don't think that counts as anything. There was no moment in which it was necessary to call out Freeza's race. Just because the movie is about him doesn't mean that we will never get a name for the species if it wasn't mentioned in there. It has very little to do with one another :)
I think it would be natural for his race to be pointed out, when Freeza blew up Namek's core. Freeza himself or Kaio could have said it was an ability inherent in his race, unlike Saiyans. Same thing in RoF, when he blows up Earth. In that case Whis or Beerus could have revealed his races' name, when talking about why he survived, whle Vegeta didn't.
What would be the best name to call Freeza's race without referring to the name Freeza? What would be the name you would agree on, that might not exactly be canon, but is good enough? Like, imagine a board game (or video game) was about to be published and the producers of that game were publicly asking the people on this very forum what they would think would be a proper name to call the species (with all the knowledge we have at this very moment).
I appreciate DB Multiverse's name for the race Frost Demons. At the very least there should be an ice pun, so Changelings and Acrosians do definitely not fit the bill.
Not sure they should be called Demons though.
Perhaps it should follow the naming conventions of Namekian, Saiyan and Tsufurian, so a japanese pun on some ice-related word and then ian.

Arcosians are a completely different race. There is nothing confirming that the Arcosians are Frieza's race at all.
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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by dbgtFO » Tue Feb 16, 2016 4:57 am

Oh right, they named them as such in Kaio's flashback in the Saiyan arc, right?
Guess that's where it's from and why people later on just assumed it was the name of Freeza's race in the Funi dub, as Freeza was revealed as the one controlling the Saiyans.

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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by Hugo Boss » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:08 am

Would Kaseijin/Kaseian work? It seems to hold some connection with methamorfosis in general. I like Henkajin too.

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Post by worldmonsters » Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:12 am

samuo2 wrote:I take advantage of this thread (Does this expression suits in this case ? :| ) to talk about a debate I met on other forum.

All start with a quote of Akira Toriyama:
Une forme de vie mutée
Saikyō Jump, March 2014 Issue, Episode of Bardock Super Kanzenban - Freeza est ce qu'on pourrait appeler une forme de vie mutée. Concrètement, le père de Freeza est un mutant avec une puissance de combat anormalement élevée. Freeza est né seulement de son père, également en forte possession de ces caractères mutants. Par conséquent, on ne peut pas parler de race de Freeza, ces deux-là sont les seuls qui possèdent un niveau anormal de puissance et de cruauté.
Source "Freeza is what you might call a mutated life-form"
Source: lunionsacre.net

So in English, to summarize: Freezer and Cold can't be classify as a "race", they are mutants who are the only to have great amont of Ki and cruelty.

For me, we can still class them, as a race, compose of 2 members, Cold and Freezer, as a new branch of this mutants race, with new feature so different than the mutants race wich they descend from, than this 2 entyties can be consider as an all new Race.

What do you think guys about it ? Your opinion interest me !
That's interesting, but I'd rather we focus on the question I asked in the opening comment and the re-addressing of the question I made later o.o Because this is kind of another conversation.
Hugo Boss wrote:Would Kaseijin/Kaseian work? It seems to hold some connection with methamorfosis in general. I like Henkajin too.
That would be more of a transforming type of thing, then right? Henka I get, but what does Kasei mean? Also, if you focus it on that it's kinda weird that Vegeta at first didn't know that Freeza could transform if it's in his race name :p (probably also why Changeling wouldn't work :o)

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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by Saturnine » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:57 am

It would be funny if they were called the Dildong.

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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by Android 50 » Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:19 pm

I remember old sites calling the race Chaneling or something to that affect.
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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by ShadowBardock89 » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:44 am

How about "Gelid" as a name?
Gelid - (adjective) icy; extremely cold.
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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by Saturnine » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:19 am

Android 50 wrote:I remember old sites calling the race Chaneling or something to that affect.
Changeling. From "change".

Yeah, I myself got duped into thinking it was the official name of the race for a good while.
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Post by worldmonsters » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:21 am

Saturnine wrote:
Android 50 wrote:I remember old sites calling the race Chaneling or something to that affect.
Changeling. From "change".

Yeah, I myself got duped into thinking it's the official name of the race for a while.
Changeling is also where this thread started :)
ShadowBardock89 wrote:How about "Gelid" as a name?
Gelid - (adjective) icy; extremely cold.
Uh... I guess? Is that English?

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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by Saturnine » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:31 am

worldmonsters wrote:
Uh... I guess? Is that English?
I guess? There's the word "congeal" which means to "coagulate due to freezing". Off the top of my head :D

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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by worldmonsters » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:35 am

Saturnine wrote:
worldmonsters wrote:
Uh... I guess? Is that English?
I guess? There's the word "congeal" which means to "coagulate due to freezing". Off the top of my head :D
No, I mean is Gelid English? I don't recognise it :o It doesn't really sound Toriyama-esque...

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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by ShadowBardock89 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:12 am

worldmonsters wrote:
Saturnine wrote:
worldmonsters wrote:
Uh... I guess? Is that English?
I guess? There's the word "congeal" which means to "coagulate due to freezing". Off the top of my head :D
No, I mean is Gelid English? I don't recognise it :o It doesn't really sound Toriyama-esque...
Yes, gelid is English. So, would Gerido work?
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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:11 am

I maintain, that I'd prefer the race name to be based on a japanese pun for Ice, so anyone here know the japanese word for ice or something similar?

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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by Cetra » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:05 am

For me they are Kraiojin (Kuraio-jin) as a pun to "cryogen", the method of conserving through extremely cold conditions.
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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:13 am

That is a good one!
I mistakenly thought Toriyama only used japanese puns for his alien race names, but he came up with Tsufuri-jin(Tsufurian), which is a pun on fruits, so it's acceptable to have it be a pun on an English word.
Still I'd like hear the japanese word for ice or something similar like cryogen, like you came up with. Whatever sounds best I'd prefer as my head-canon until it's officially established otherwise.

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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by Gorou » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:13 am

Kraiojin sounds very good.

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Re: Freeza's race name?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:13 pm

I've been calling them Raiokutian/Raioku-jin for about half a decade now. It takes the cryo pun, but jumbles it the same way Toriyama did for saiya/yasai and fruits/furuutsu/tsufuru.
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