How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by Valerius Dover » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:59 pm

Maybe they'll call him Fraust and give him a German accent. :twisted:

In all seriousness, though, I have faith that they'll adapt him faithfully like everybody else these days. Regarding the name, of course. The real question is whether they would also have Chris Ayres voice Frost, or someone else. Castings don't necessarily have to mirror the original in dubs. If they didn't go with Chris, who would you guys like to see voice him instead?
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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:02 pm

Valerius Dover wrote:Maybe they'll call him Fraust and give him a German accent. :twisted:

In all seriousness, though, I have faith that they'll adapt him faithfully like everybody else these days. Regarding the name, of course. The real question is whether they would also have Chris Ayres voice Frost, or someone else. Castings don't necessarily have to mirror the original in dubs. If they didn't go with Chris, who would you guys like to see voice him instead?
I'd be fine with Ayers as long as he gives Frost a voice fitting of his personality. Nakao is great as Freeza but his attempts to make Frost sound nice and polite only make him sound like he's got a thinly veiled tone of snide contempt behind every line. That's a trap the dub shouldn't fall into.
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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by Vegard Aune » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:47 pm

Valerius Dover wrote:Maybe they'll call him Fraust and give him a German accent. :twisted:

In all seriousness, though, I have faith that they'll adapt him faithfully like everybody else these days. Regarding the name, of course. The real question is whether they would also have Chris Ayres voice Frost, or someone else. Castings don't necessarily have to mirror the original in dubs. If they didn't go with Chris, who would you guys like to see voice him instead?
Seeing how Goku specifically calls out the fact that he has the same voice as Freeza, I'd say it's a given that Chris Ayres will voice him in the dub. Unless they write that line out as well.

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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by Valerius Dover » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:56 pm

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Valerius Dover wrote:Maybe they'll call him Fraust and give him a German accent. :twisted:

In all seriousness, though, I have faith that they'll adapt him faithfully like everybody else these days. Regarding the name, of course. The real question is whether they would also have Chris Ayres voice Frost, or someone else. Castings don't necessarily have to mirror the original in dubs. If they didn't go with Chris, who would you guys like to see voice him instead?
Seeing how Goku specifically calls out the fact that he has the same voice as Freeza, I'd say it's a given that Chris Ayres will voice him in the dub. Unless they write that line out as well.
Oh, I didn't know about that, seeing as how I haven't seen Super yet, only heard about it. I doubt they would change a line that drastically, so in that case I'd say it's probably a given that it's Chris Ayres. Which I think we're all totally fine with, given how awesome he is. :D
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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by Lunatic Fringe » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:13 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Valerius Dover wrote:Maybe they'll call him Fraust and give him a German accent. :twisted:

In all seriousness, though, I have faith that they'll adapt him faithfully like everybody else these days. Regarding the name, of course. The real question is whether they would also have Chris Ayres voice Frost, or someone else. Castings don't necessarily have to mirror the original in dubs. If they didn't go with Chris, who would you guys like to see voice him instead?
I'd be fine with Ayers as long as he gives Frost a voice fitting of his personality. Nakao is great as Freeza but his attempts to make Frost sound nice and polite only make him sound like he's got a thinly veiled tone of snide contempt behind every line. That's a trap the dub shouldn't fall into.
Not to sound condescending but are you saying that because of Nakao's performance as Frost or do you automatically associate Nakao with Freeza, thus it's hard to listen to Frost without you subconsciously referring back to his Freeza?

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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:55 pm

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Valerius Dover wrote:Maybe they'll call him Fraust and give him a German accent. :twisted:

In all seriousness, though, I have faith that they'll adapt him faithfully like everybody else these days. Regarding the name, of course. The real question is whether they would also have Chris Ayres voice Frost, or someone else. Castings don't necessarily have to mirror the original in dubs. If they didn't go with Chris, who would you guys like to see voice him instead?
I'd be fine with Ayers as long as he gives Frost a voice fitting of his personality. Nakao is great as Freeza but his attempts to make Frost sound nice and polite only make him sound like he's got a thinly veiled tone of snide contempt behind every line. That's a trap the dub shouldn't fall into.
Not to sound condescending but are you saying that because of Nakao's performance as Frost or do you automatically associate Nakao with Freeza, thus it's hard to listen to Frost without you subconsciously referring back to his Freeza?
I've only started listening to Nakao as Freeza with F last year then going back and re-watching bits and pieces of the Namek Saga just to see how it differentiates from the dub so I don't think his voice is engrained enough into my subconcious for me to always hear Freeza. At least, I don't think it is. Now, with Ayers that might actually happen since whenever I read the manga or write something DB related, I always hear his voice in my head.
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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by z_cherub » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:11 pm

Not getting involved in the war here... But as someone that hasn't watched the dub since 1998 or so when I gained access to fan subs (which have their own issues admittedly), all this talk of accurate translation and good acting actually makes me want to watch Kai. Not that Sabat & Co. will ever be the definitive voices to me, but I'd like to see the series handled well in English.

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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:16 pm

z_cherub wrote:Not getting involved in the war here... But as someone that hasn't watched the dub since 1998 or so when I gained access to fan subs (which have their own issues admittedly), all this talk of accurate translation and good acting actually makes me want to watch Kai. Not that Sabat & Co. will ever be the definitive voices to me, but I'd like to see the series handled well in English.
You won't be disappointed then, they really knock it out of the park with Kai.
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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by jcogginsa » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:36 pm

I see two possibilities for why they used Frieza

1. Copyright/Trademark reasons
2. They were trying to tie into the batman villain Victor Fries for reasons that only a stupid corporate executive could fathom

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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by Iberian_Saiyan » Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:52 pm

They are done tweaking (or say, disgracing) the names and from now on Funimation sticks with the Japanese-English official titles and names. If they were to have screwed up a name then we'd have seen it back in 2014 with Beerus being named "Bierus" and Whis as "Wheese" or "Whiese". Let's say Funimation were still in that mindset, "Frostie" or "Froist" could have been the two possibilities for Frost.

I still wish they hadn't ruined Freeza's name by making the character popular as "Frieza" because whenever I use Google it tells me the correct name is "Frieza" (sounds like Fryza to me).

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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by jcogginsa » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:07 pm

Iberian_Saiyan wrote:They are done tweaking (or say, disgracing) the names and from now on Funimation sticks with the Japanese-English official titles and names. If they were to have screwed up a name then we'd have seen it back in 2014 with Beerus being named "Bierus" and Whis as "Wheese" or "Whiese". Let's say Funimation were still in that mindset, "Frostie" or "Froist" could have been the two possibilities for Frost.

I still wish they hadn't ruined Freeza's name by making the character popular as "Frieza" because whenever I use Google it tells me the correct name is "Frieza" (sounds like Fryza to me).
Fun fact: In german, the word Fries is pronounced Freeze. Maybe Funimation was trying to make Frieza appear foreign

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jcogginsa wrote:
Iberian_Saiyan wrote:They are done tweaking (or say, disgracing) the names and from now on Funimation sticks with the Japanese-English official titles and names. If they were to have screwed up a name then we'd have seen it back in 2014 with Beerus being named "Bierus" and Whis as "Wheese" or "Whiese". Let's say Funimation were still in that mindset, "Frostie" or "Froist" could have been the two possibilities for Frost.

I still wish they hadn't ruined Freeza's name by making the character popular as "Frieza" because whenever I use Google it tells me the correct name is "Frieza" (sounds like Fryza to me).
Fun fact: In german, the word Fries is pronounced Freeze. Maybe Funimation was trying to make Frieza appear foreign
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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

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jcogginsa wrote:
Iberian_Saiyan wrote:They are done tweaking (or say, disgracing) the names and from now on Funimation sticks with the Japanese-English official titles and names. If they were to have screwed up a name then we'd have seen it back in 2014 with Beerus being named "Bierus" and Whis as "Wheese" or "Whiese". Let's say Funimation were still in that mindset, "Frostie" or "Froist" could have been the two possibilities for Frost.

I still wish they hadn't ruined Freeza's name by making the character popular as "Frieza" because whenever I use Google it tells me the correct name is "Frieza" (sounds like Fryza to me).
Fun fact: In german, the word Fries is pronounced Freeze. Maybe Funimation was trying to make Frieza appear foreign
Why would it concern Funimation to know what it means in German? That seems like a far-fetched theory. Even Freezer would be better than "Frieza" since Funimation titled Coola as "Cooler".

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Post by Mewzard » Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:54 am

Iberian_Saiyan wrote:Why would it concern Funimation to know what it means in German? That seems like a far-fetched theory. Even Freezer would be better than "Frieza" since Funimation titled Coola as "Cooler".
It could be a reference to Victor Fries, aka the Batman villain Mr. Freeze.
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ShadowBardock89 wrote:
jcogginsa wrote:
Iberian_Saiyan wrote:They are done tweaking (or say, disgracing) the names and from now on Funimation sticks with the Japanese-English official titles and names. If they were to have screwed up a name then we'd have seen it back in 2014 with Beerus being named "Bierus" and Whis as "Wheese" or "Whiese". Let's say Funimation were still in that mindset, "Frostie" or "Froist" could have been the two possibilities for Frost.

I still wish they hadn't ruined Freeza's name by making the character popular as "Frieza" because whenever I use Google it tells me the correct name is "Frieza" (sounds like Fryza to me).
Fun fact: In german, the word Fries is pronounced Freeze. Maybe Funimation was trying to make Frieza appear foreign
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Post by ToxicFlame707 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:34 pm

Frost sounds English so there shouldn't be any issue with that. I hope he has a voice similar to Android 17.

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Post by UltimateHammerBro » Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:23 am

ToxicFlame707 wrote:Frost sounds English so there shouldn't be any issue with that. I hope he has a voice similar to Android 17.
Maybe they would want to change it a bit for this same reason?
After all, they changed "Lunch" into "Launch", even though both of them are English words. It could be a way to obscure the pun a bit.
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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by Valerius Dover » Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:40 pm

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ToxicFlame707 wrote:Frost sounds English so there shouldn't be any issue with that. I hope he has a voice similar to Android 17.
Maybe they would want to change it a bit for this same reason?
After all, they changed "Lunch" into "Launch", even though both of them are English words. It could be a way to obscure the pun a bit.
What about Trunks and Cell? They made it through just fine, pun preserved and everything. And again, you're forgetting that this was the Funimation of 1998 that created the Launch name. This is 2016 Funi we're talking about. There's no doubt that they'll keep his name unchanged.
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Re: How will FUNimation screw up "Frost"?

Post by LuckyCat » Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:10 pm

ToxicFlame707 wrote:Frost sounds English so there shouldn't be any issue with that. I hope he has a voice similar to Android 17.
Surely Chris Ayres would voice him, or they could be ironic and bring back Linda Young to do it. :lol:

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