GT Power Levels explain DB Super

[Speedster]

Basically I was trying to say even if you took the weaker version of Vegetto it wouldn't make much sense. If you were to use Anime Base Vegetto as an example then it completely screws up the whole "Pure Boo being stronger than Boohan" even further really as Goku would need to some how get much more stronger than the example I used. Perhaps I should have used that end of the scale instead?

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SSJ3 Goku: 4
Bootenks: 8
Boohan: 10
Anime Base Vegetto: 15
SSJ Vegetto: 15*50 = 750
Pure Boo: 760
SSJ3 Goku(Magically stronger for no reason): 780

Not that I agree with him that anime base Vegetto<Buuhan but he never said that Pure Buu (Kid Buu) is stronger than Super Vegetto, but just base Vegetto. So your example should had been like this:

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SSJ3 Goku: 4
Bootenks: 8
Boohan: 10
Anime Base Vegetto: 15
Pure Boo: 16
SSJ3 Goku (Vs kid Buu):16
SSJ Vegetto: 15*50 = 750

Anyway for the record personally I find it more acceptable that kid Buu is the strongest Buu without additional fusion so though he is stronger than fat, grey and base Super Buu he is weaker than Buutenks and Buuhan. Otherwise the Buutenks Vs SSJ3 Goku in the anime, the need to fuse with Gohan versus Buutenks and the fusion with Vegeta versus Buuhan don't quite add up. That being said it is possible that SSJ3 Goku could become 4x stronger if a fight pushed him - SSJ3 is bringing you to your limits and Goku is known for breaking his limits. That static x4 multiplier it is a 2009 guidebook thing which can disregarded for this analysis. By the way you can amend the differences to something like this in which case Goku only needed a 3x additional boost in SSJ3. Or he may retained some Vegetto's powers after splitting up so that his base increased by 3x.

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SSJ3 Goku: 4
Bootenks: 6
Boohan: 8
Anime Base Vegetto: 12
Pure Boo: 12
SSJ3 Goku (Vs kid Buu):12

[Hitiro]

Not that I agree with him that anime base Vegetto<Buuhan but he never said that Pure Buu (Kid Buu) is stronger than Super Vegetto, but just base Vegetto. So your example should had been like this:

This was a mistake on my part I intended to do what you did but for some reason I kept the structure of my last example and just put the numbers accordingly.

Anyway for the record personally I find it more acceptable that kid Buu is the strongest Buu without additional fusion so though he is stronger than fat, grey and base Super Buu he is weaker than Buutenks and Buuhan. Otherwise the Buutenks Vs SSJ3 Goku in the anime, the need to fuse with Gohan versus Buutenks and the fusion with Vegeta versus Buuhan don't quite add up. That being said it is possible that SSJ3 Goku could become 4x stronger if a fight pushed him - SSJ3 is bringing you to your limits and Goku is known for breaking his limits. That static x4 multiplier it is a 2009 guidebook thing which can disregarded for this analysis. By the way you can amend the differences to something like this in which case Goku only needed a 3x additional boost in SSJ3. Or he may retained some Vegetto's powers after splitting up so that his base increased by 3x.

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SSJ3 Goku: 4
Bootenks: 6
Boohan: 8
Anime Base Vegetto: 12
Pure Boo: 12
SSJ3 Goku (Vs kid Buu):12

Except for that we would have to ignore that Goku was wetting his pants even with the regular Evil Boo without fusions. I guess you could say that Pure Boo is the strongest Boo without any additional influences. As such the only two Boo's to fall under this category would be the Good Boo and Pure Boo, as Evil Boo was using Good Boo and S. Kaioshin. I feel like that would be a better explanation of what is said in the anime when Goku states this is the strongest Boo. He previously said that this guy is "fighting alone" now too. So I would think it sinks up. Therefore it would be something like:

Boo's without an influence:
Fat Boo: 2
Pure Boo: 4

Boo's who have some sort of influence:
Fat Boo: 5(At Peak rage)
Evil Boo: 5
Bootenks: 6
Boohan: 8

As for the SSJ3 bringing you to your limits I always thought this to be the limits the body could reach with the aid of transformations. E.G. It doesn't matter how strong Goku gets the limit's of his body while under that form will always be 400x greater than his current strength. To put it into a different perspective if Goku kept on toughening up his body to use higher levels of Kaioken there would be a natural limit where he could not go any higher in terms of amplification. I've always seen the SSJ transformations as altering the Saiyan's chemical makeup to be more suited to higher powerlevels but they are still strained to some degree with the forms because they can only modify the body to handle the power so far. And as far as SSJ3 goes it is the pinnacle of that.

[Travis Touchdown]

I'm posting from my phone so bear with me.

Super and GT and can't be in the same continuity because :

I beg to differ. I'm open to being proven wrong in time, but I disagree with the popular notion of writing GT out of the books. My reasoning? Having Super take place in the 10 year gap. Why not just let the story flow naturally into a sequel and set it post Z? To me, it appears as if, at least for now, they're playing it safe and avoiding the timeframe GT is set in.

- In Super,Beerus and SSjG Goku's fight threatened the entire Universe while if Beerus and Champa were to fight,they could potentially destroy Universe 6 and 7.Nothing in GT come even close to that.

Well, to be fair the Saiyan Saga battle between Goku and Vegeta was enough to cause a danger to the Earth if they fired a blast at their max 32,000ish battle powers. A stray fireball from any Super Saiyan, Android, Cell, or Buu should have destroyed Earth but it didn't.

- Kibito desuses is Super,although it didn't happen yet in the anime.I doubt Toyotaro will do random shit like that.

That is a big wrench, I admit. All I can say is we'll have to wait and see how Super ends. They might wind up fusing again for some odd reason.

- No mention whatsoever in GT for Whis/Beerus/Champa/Vados or the Champa tournament or any of the U6 Tournament combatants or Monaka.

Well again, to be fair, there's no mention of Pilaf, Namu, the Crane Master, Android 8, or even Lunch in Z. Doesn't mean they're not there. We've yet to see 17 in Super, but he's still a very powerful being that exists.

- How the hell does a random alien in GT (Rildo) is as the same league as Beerus ? Why didn't Beerus fight him instead of Goku?

Well Beerus shows up out of nowhere and is way more powerful than the seemingly invincible Majin Buu much in the same way Rildo shows up out of nowhere. And as for how someone created a being more powerful than Beerus, I would ask how Gero was able to make Androids more powerful than Frieza. It's all entirely possible.

- Freeza didn't transform into his Golden form in Hell and he's not in cocoon either.

One could argue Frieza wasn't cocooned because the villains had taken over Hell. Why would he be in a cocoon? And besides, perhaps he mastered his power in his final form and discarded his golden form in the same way Super Saiyan 2 & 3 are discarded in favor of Super Saiyan?

I admit I am a rare fan of GT and may just have my nostalgia goggles on, but what I'm mainly saying is let's wait until Super is over before declaring GT off the books. I know it can certainly go that route but I actually see a lot that is making GT make more sense.

[Khin]

Well again, to be fair, there's no mention of Pilaf, Namu, the Crane Master, Android 8, or even Lunch in Z. Doesn't mean they're not there. We've yet to see 17 in Super, but he's still a very powerful being that exists.

Well Beerus shows up out of nowhere and is way more powerful than the seemingly invincible Majin Buu much in the same way Rildo shows up out of nowhere. And as for how someone created a being more powerful than Beerus, I would ask how Gero was able to make Androids more powerful than Frieza. It's all entirely possible.

• All the characters you mentioned are minor characters.Whis,Beerus,Champa etc. on the other hand are all major characters that starts an entire arc.
• Beerus is a God of Destruction.He's a deity.I see no reason why he shouldn't be stronger than Boo.

Why can't some people just accept the fact that Super and GT is not in the same continuity ? I understand that you liked the series.But you're literally finding reasons that's almost next to impossible to happen.It's just the same as how Marvel/DC movies are not in the same continuity as there Comic counterparts.You can enjoy both versions,but they're not in the same timeline.

[apex_pretador]

Not to mention that rildo was stated to be as strong as buu & gave goku trouble.

Not to mention that SS gohan was stronger than base vegeta but base gohan was weaker than SS goten

Not to mention that SS goku is not million times stronger than buu level opponents

Not to mention that freeza & cell are implied to be around same power

[Hugo Boss]

Why can't some people just accept the fact that Super and GT is not in the same continuity?

Sure, they have lots of contradictions, but this is not a fact until someone holding rights over the franchise declares it as such. In another hand, it isn't a fact that they belong to the same continuity either.

[TheMikado]

Not to mention that rildo was stated to be as strong as buu & gave goku trouble.

Not to mention that SS gohan was stronger than base vegeta but base gohan was weaker than SS goten

Not to mention that SS goku is not million times stronger than buu level opponents

Not to mention that freeza & cell are implied to be around same power

1)Rildo is Stronger than Buu and didn't give base Goku trouble until he went to his metal form. Even then SSJ Goku was about to toast him until Goku went to save Pan and got frozen. Basically in the same way Frost uses a unique trait to overcome a more powerful enemy in Super.

2) This is a LIE and I've addressed this with you before. SSJ BABI Gohan (I.E POSSESSED BY BABI) is stronger than base Vegeta. Now AGAIN base Gohan fighting SSJ Goten with Possessed by BABI is like comparing Fusion to a base character.
Using your logic SSJ3 Goku is weak sauce compared to SSJ Vegeta since he gets beaten. You cannot arbitrarily ignore the Babi possession boost when it fits your logic. Either Babi possession provides a boost or it doesn't and that boost leaves your body when Babi leaves. These are facts that have been established in the context of GT. Stop twisting and manipulating it in ways that don't even make sense.

3) I don't know where you are even getting this from? We know God Ki puts Goku base above SSJ3. Rildo base >= Buu = SSJ3. In Super, the SSJ form doesn't even seem to give a x2 boost on base Goku. We have no idea how strong Buu,Uub or Majuub are, but we know base Goku is around their level .

4) Where in the world did you get that they never state anything close? Further they never WANTED to kill Goku because that would send him to Heaven. They specifically only wanted to trap him in hell frozen ALIVE.

5) STOP LYING. Having an opinion is fine, but presenting it a straight up fact to suit your agenda is the worst.