Fans Don't Accept Frosts's Revealed Aligment?

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

I've been reading comments outside of the site here on the way some people took Frost's reveal to being a pirate like Chilled, and people are actually upset that he wasn't a good guy even suggesting it was bad writing? Why were people hoping Frost was a good guy? We're they expecting him to join them or something? I'm personally fine with Frost lying, it being that unexpected is actually good writing because we believed him. While there are some people still trying to say he somehow still is good... despite cheating maliciously... why do people want to believe hes still "good?"

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I don't really care one way or the other. It would have been kind of nice to have a member of the race that wasn't a scumbag for once, but Toriyama already told us that Freeza and his father were hybrid mutants and that it granted them an abnormal level of battle power and cruelty. Sure it could have been different in a new universe, but I'm not surprised either.

[dario03]

I find it odd so many people went with him being good so fast. We were basically just told he was a good guy and he was overly nice for a episode. And with how much they pushed it I thought it was pretty clear that it could of just been a ruse.
Only thing I can think of is a lot of people wanted Freeza to become good or at least be on Universe 7's team for the tourney so they went with it. A want to believe kind of thing.

[FoolsGil]

Well maybe I can answer. I fell in love with Frost, but I'm over him now. I accept he's bad..

What went through my mind was: "A good Freeza? Wow." Why did I accept this? Because this is a new universe: Earth took itself out. Winnie the Pooh is one of the strongest fighters, and apparently there are good Saiyans-no one was questioning anything (especially good Saiyans), why couldn't Frost be different like everyone else in this new universe?

So that's my thought process, but I'm over him now. (Binging Person of Interest puts things into perspective when someone who should be dead, becomes a hero instead) And anyone who hasn't accepted it should do so. He's a villain. Status Quo is God. Now it's time to watch Vegeta get his revenge on someone who had nothing to do with his planet's destruction.

[Captain Strawberry]

I hope Frost is like a double agent or something.

[Ajay]

It's not that I don't accept it, I just don't like it. At least as far as the story stands right now. It's so difficult to talk about plot points without having the full picture, so my feelings may well change. But anyway, this is how I feel as of now:

Off the back of the Revival of F arc, I was ready for a fresh new universe and fresh new characters. Then we got a new Saiyan and a new Freeza-type. That didn't exactly fill me with much excitement, but hey, I figured maybe we'd get some interesting tidbits about Universe 6's lore. My doubts were totally eradicated when their introductions turned things on their heads: "Oh, these Saiyans are pure-hearted and Frost is a real hero, that's such a great twist on things!" I loved that so much, and the little bits of exposition about how Universe 6 worked was so satisfying! It was such a simple and fun little twist on things that felt very Toriyama. The interactions were so fun, and it seemed like a nice little throwback to the previous arc where Goku had said he wished Freeza were good.

Then we hit episode 34 and suddenly Frost is revealed to be a conniving evil space pirate. He busts out the trademark laugh and we learn of all the Freeza-esque antics he's been up to. I hated it, and all the mental gymnastics people are going through to carve a difference between the two characters have left me totally baffled. We just wrapped up a battle with Freeza and now we have a guy who looks like Freeza and has all the same traits with some very minor differences. That not only makes his presence in this tournament feel tiring, but it also makes the previous arc feel even more unnecessary. If they wanted another Freeza arc, they should have used Frost from the get-go. I should not be tired of my favourite villain in the series, but after three fights with essentially the same character in the space of a year?! C'mon. You can't blame me or anyone for feeling this way.

What irritates me further is just how poorly executed it was. One episode, "Hey guys! I'm good. Woo~ charity!", and then next, "Hohoho, I'm actually evil! Gotcha!" It's nothing. There's no build-up to actually make that twist feel even remotely satisfying. Had we spent many episodes with the character, becoming attached to him and developing a genuine connection, then having the carpet pulled out from under us wouldn't have felt so hamfisted and utterly trite. I mean, I get it, Toriyama's not exactly the best writer in the world, but his stories are usually simple enough that it doesn't actually matter, and his characters more than make up for most of the shortcomings. The thing is, we're at a point now where the stories are becoming larger, the plot points are necessitating complexity, and as a result, the execution leaves them falling rather flat.

On the bright-side, it's likely that Frost's inclusion will be minimal, with the story taking on a structure akin to the Boo arc. I'll more than likely have forgiven and forgotten my annoyances should the future content be broad enough and entertaining enough to overshadow it. It certainly doesn't help that the visuals and direction aren't doing the story any favours, either. Never thought I'd be wishing a new Dragon Ball TV series would disappear in favour of movies!

[Kuririn Fan]

God, i would do anything for a new movie to save us all!

[Lord Beerus]

The "plot twist" of Frost being evil still has me conflicted. On one hand, it's certainly something I wasn't expecting but on the other hand I didn't really want this. Hopefully, they explore Frost character in more depth because his style of evil certainly at the very unique, at least within Dragon Ball. Frost having a business scheme where he secretly starts wars then publicly ends them, so he can buy up war-devastated land at cheap prices, is very Lex Luthor type of manipulative evil. A villain with good publicity is something that Dragon Ball has never had. So it'll be interesting to see how his character is explored and revealed in more depth. I can't say I'm not intrigued by Frost. He could really shape up to be a really complex villain if handled well. Hopefully Hit will just beat him to an inch within his life in the next episode. Or better yet, Frost may actually pull a Golden Freeza moment and stomp him. Because I really don't want Frost to bite the dust so early on into this arc. He could still be a really good character and they still so much they could do a lot with him. I mean, it's disappointing that Frost is evil, but his style of evil is something we've never seen in Dragon Ball. It would be a waste for Hit to just kill him and we never see him again after that.

[Overlord78]

God, i would do anything for a new movie to save us all!

Then the new movie turns out to be worse than ROF

[Chuquita]

I'm disappointed Frost is just another, slightly-different Freeza, but I can reconcile it in the way that Champa and Vados are just another slightly-different version of Beerus and Whis.

So far the only "alternate" that's truly an opposite is the Uni 6 saiyans and Uni 6 Earth.

[dario03]

I hope Frost is like a double agent or something.

That would be cool. Not sure how that would work though.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Because it would be too predictable for him to have been a bad guy all along. We all saw it coming.

[Travis Touchdown]

I was pretty pissed about his alignment. I was expecting him to just be another Frieza. When he was revealed to be a good guy, I loved that. To me, THAT was unexpected, and I loved having an honorable Frost Demon outside of Xenoverse. To have him lie and be just another Frieza all along is just disappointing. I'm halfway expecting Cabba to have lied too about Salad (or Sadla, or Saiya, or whatever the planet is called) and the Saiyans being good guys.

[DBZAOTA482]

It's not that I don't accept it... I just really don't like it. It was just so obvious they wouldn't make Frost a good guy for real and turn around like "lol nope hes for evulz".

I'd rather him being desperate to the cause... ya know "the ends justifies the means".

[pacz360]

Frost being evil is a straight terrible ideas in everyday shape and form instead of having something different with the character instead we just get freeza rehash #235678976 to me it's another wasted potential considering hit is gonna put him down.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I hope when TFS gets to him (if they ever do), they make him like that guy in YGOTAS who keeps insisting he's not a villain.

[Khin]

While i like the unexpected plot twist.I'm a bit disappointed that we got another Freeza race who is evil.Hopefully,he will get a developement later and will become a good guy.

Because it would be too predictable for him to have been a bad guy all along. We all saw it coming.

I think it's the other way around.Many people speculates that Frost will be a good guy even when he was first revealed.

[Onibaku]

Because it would be too predictable for him to have been a bad guy all along. We all saw it coming.

lol I can guarantee that a small amount of people believed that Frost might actually have been evil. i was one of them too.

Anyways, its not that people don't accept it, (no such thing as fans not accepting something in fiction, they will get over it regardless), they just don't like it. Personally I find it logical since there's no way someone similar to Frieza could not be evil. People tend to forget how wicked Frieza was. Frost seems laid-back and actually smarter than Frieza, I think he'll make a more interesting villain than Frieza

[Polyphase Avatron]

(no such thing as fans not accepting something in fiction, they will get over it regardless)

Tell that to Spider-Man fans regarding One More Day.

[Saiga]

Or to the people writing One More Day.