Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:29 pm

Chuquita wrote:I just want to know what happens beyond this tournament. ^^; I was hoping the latest manga chapter would provide clues, but the manga's done with spoilers apparently and they've decided to have it just stay in line with where the anime is.
Why do you want to get spoiled?

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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by Chuquita » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:33 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I just want to know what happens beyond this tournament. ^^; I was hoping the latest manga chapter would provide clues, but the manga's done with spoilers apparently and they've decided to have it just stay in line with where the anime is.
Why do you want to get spoiled?
I've always liked spoilers; though I guess if I had to go deeper than that...I want just enough spoiler-y information so that I can theorize on how things will play out without knowing exactly what's going to happen each step of the way (like that very first image of Super they showed Champa and Vados in before anyone even knew their names or who they were; or the general Toriyama statement about the main characters fighting their "neighbors" in universe 6).
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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by sintzu » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:59 pm

Chuquita wrote:I just want to know what happens beyond this tournament.
We'll know on the 10th of April when the new episode titles are released.
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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by TekTheNinja » Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:54 am

Well seeing as only Goku and Vegeta have done anything so far, this is basically GT but with several times worse fight scenes. :yawn:

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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by AnzuMazaki » Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:11 am

TekTheNinja wrote:Well seeing as only Goku and Vegeta have done anything so far, this is basically GT but with several times worse fight scenes. :yawn:
Agreed, even down to GT and the Universe 6 saga both having Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Chaozu as voiceless cameos (We haven't heard Yamcha say anything since the Battle of Gods saga).
I just want to see the minor characters of Dragonball and DBZ do something for once, in spite of them being "irrelevant".
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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:23 am

AnzuMazaki wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:Well seeing as only Goku and Vegeta have done anything so far, this is basically GT but with several times worse fight scenes. :yawn:
Agreed, even down to GT and the Universe 6 saga both having Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Chaozu as voiceless cameos (We haven't heard Yamcha say anything since the Battle of Gods saga).
I just want to see the minor characters of Dragonball and DBZ do something for once, in spite of them being "irrelevant".
It is extremely bad and unacceptable by Toriyama and Toei, do they honestly think that fans want Goku and Vegeta 95% of the time. I have said it before they are making other Characters unlikeable so they like Vegeta and Goku to sell their merchandise.
Just look what they did to Piccolo, Gohan and Buu in this arc and to the rest of the cast they have made them voiceless like you said.

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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by TheMikado » Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:24 pm

It's no secret I'm not happy with Super. Actually super being bad is why j joined this forum in the first place. I wanted to see what other longtime fans of Dragonball thought. I can see some are happy to get anything Dragonball related and that's a great attitude to have but I can't help but feel the fans desire better than this.

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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by Cetra » Sun Mar 20, 2016 1:33 pm

Which Story? There is a shallow Tournament. No matter which posts are incoming now
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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by sintzu » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:32 pm

TheMikado wrote:I can see some are happy to get anything Dragonball related and that's a great attitude to have but I can't help but feel the fans desire better than this.
I'm extremely happy with Super's story so far but everything else has been a mess to say the least.

I want better production quality but at this point I know it's never going to happen outside a few episodes here and there cause the majority of people working on it are newbies and don't have a budget or time to work with.
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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by Beerus-sama » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:54 pm

For now I think its getting boring, like most people have said in the episode threads, this is the Goku and Vegeta show, and they haven´t done something interesting as for now... Piccolo´s face was covered with the Makankosappo for a whole episode and then he had to forfeit for Vegeta to come into stage to one punch Frost with the worst of the animation Super had :cry:
Now there are some subs saying Beerus saying that Monaka is the strongest fighter is a lie, even though I know they are wrong, it would be so bad if it happens to be true.... :?

For now the only thing that makes me keep watching are the Hakaishin group interactions...
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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:58 pm

sintzu wrote:
TheMikado wrote:I can see some are happy to get anything Dragonball related and that's a great attitude to have but I can't help but feel the fans desire better than this.
I'm extremely happy with Super's story so far but everything else has been a mess to say the least.

I want better production quality but at this point I know it's never going to happen outside a few episodes here and there cause the majority of people working on it are newbies and don't have a budget or time to work with.
I diagree with most of the story points so far in the Champa arc.

I don't like:

Buu failing the test.
Piccolo forfeiting.
Frost being a dirty cheat instead of good.
Goku and Vegeta only going normal Super Saiyan instead of SSGSS.
Botamo being ringed out and not utilising his ability fully.
Goku being reinstated into the tournament.
Vegeta one-shotting Frost.

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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:11 pm

What I don't about the Champa saga so far is that Frost seem like that he went down without a proper fight. I also hated the twist of Frost being evil. Yeah he is different from Freeza, but they are still evil tyrants. Having a good legit member of Freeza's race would have been cool for once. With Botamo, he was mainly a jobber to just kick off the tournament. I kinda wish they did more with him, but didn't. I still love this story saga so far. At least this tournament has a reason behind it then just "Hey let's fight in a tournament for prizes and money". They are fighting it to save the Earth.
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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by LightBing » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:36 pm

So far, is too soon to form a final opinion. This tournament arc feels like a set up for what might happen in Universe 6. For now, I say the story looks promising, the introduction of elements like Zuno, Saiyans with a different backstory and the return of nuanced fights where techniques and tactics play a role.
Botamo and Frost have been lack-buster so far, but their role appears to be filler-ish like the early round fighters at the Tenkaichi Budokai.

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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by precita » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:32 am

supercat wrote:The Buu arc had a stellar beginning with the introduction of the seemingly powerful, yet mysterious Kaioshin. Sadly, things took a turn for the worse when Piccolo was immediately put out of commission and the once revered Kaioshin was reduced to a mere joke. The showdown between Majin Vegeta and Goku was unnecessary, as I felt we had more than enough Saiyan screen time by that point of the series. I will, however, acknowledge the beauty behind Vegeta's sacrifice along with his final moment with Trunks.

As for Buu, his lack of durability, arsenal of cheap tactics (absorption and constant regeneration), and embodiment of humor made him almost as distasteful as Broly himself; definitely not a fan of either to say the least.
The Buu arc was fantastic compared to Super. At least there we had a cool new shapeshifting villain, it was the perfect mix of comedy and good action, we got to see all the characters have chance to shine and not just Goku and Vegeta, and it tied up some several character arcs (Vegeta accepting his place on Earth, Gohan being a superhero, Goten and Trunks antics and Gotenks, Piccolo being the teacher, Mr. Satan saving the Earth, Goku trying to pass the torch), as well as the new world building like the Kai's, Fusions, SSJ3 and its limitations and the fact that the entire Earth was destroyed the first time.

Seriously, Super wishes it could be as good as the Buu saga was. Not to mention back then stuff like teen Gohan, and Goten/Trunks were new and fresh concepts, whereas Super just re-uses everything and doesn't even give us a time skip.

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Post by MCDaveG » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:47 am

precita wrote:
supercat wrote:The Buu arc had a stellar beginning with the introduction of the seemingly powerful, yet mysterious Kaioshin. Sadly, things took a turn for the worse when Piccolo was immediately put out of commission and the once revered Kaioshin was reduced to a mere joke. The showdown between Majin Vegeta and Goku was unnecessary, as I felt we had more than enough Saiyan screen time by that point of the series. I will, however, acknowledge the beauty behind Vegeta's sacrifice along with his final moment with Trunks.

As for Buu, his lack of durability, arsenal of cheap tactics (absorption and constant regeneration), and embodiment of humor made him almost as distasteful as Broly himself; definitely not a fan of either to say the least.
The Buu arc was fantastic compared to Super. At least there we had a cool new shapeshifting villain, it was the perfect mix of comedy and good action, we got to see all the characters have chance to shine and not just Goku and Vegeta, and it tied up some several character arcs (Vegeta accepting his place on Earth, Gohan being a superhero, Goten and Trunks antics and Gotenks, Piccolo being the teacher, Mr. Satan saving the Earth, Goku trying to pass the torch), as well as the new world building like the Kai's, Fusions, SSJ3 and its limitations and the fact that the entire Earth was destroyed the first time.

Seriously, Super wishes it could be as good as the Buu saga was. Not to mention back then stuff like teen Gohan, and Goten/Trunks were new and fresh concepts, whereas Super just re-uses everything and doesn't even give us a time skip.
It seems to me, that Super does this Toriyama sentiment of ''Everyone is too old and uninteresting at the end of DBZ'', and it is true to that - except for Goku and Vegeta. Everyone else is too old and uninteresting in Super :lol:
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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by VejituhTheWarriorGuy » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:16 am

Honestly, I just haven't cared about Super in months. I stopped watching when that awful Goku VS Frieza fight started and I'm never going back. I've seen some of the U6 eps through a friend and while they've improved, apparently it wasn't for very long. I have never seen a company care so much and so less for a property at the same time as Toei with DB. Toriyama's writing has even been kinda meh lately but that might just be Toei's adaptation of his story for it. I can't believe that a product with extremely awful animation like this can even be broadcast on TV. I'm not even on the edge of my seat wondering what's going to happen because well, WE KINDA KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN! For me, I'll gladly wait for a movie adaptation of the U6 arc which may be coming due to recent shifts in crew of the show. If that doesn't happen, I'll stick with BoG and F, the movies that is to go along with Kai and Kai The Final Chapters.
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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by ZombieVito » Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:26 pm

I was having a blast with the movie arcs since they improved the movies a lot but this new arc has failed so far.

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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:14 am

I think if Buu did fight, I feel like he would have lost and Goku would have step in to win. All of the fans would bitch about how Buu lost so that Goku can win.
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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by Iberian_Saiyan » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:39 am

No, not really. I'm as close as thinking giving up on Super in its entirety.

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Re: Are you satisfied with the story of Super so far?

Post by Chuquita » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:23 pm

Presently I'm hoping Cabba will have some interesting history to share a few episodes from now.
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