"Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Wezenheim » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:08 pm

JulieYBM wrote:It could be that the series director didn't want to use CG. Dragon Ball Super has had very little CG itself, after all.
I'm certainly happy about that, I hated all of the CG fighting segments in Ressurection 'F'.

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Post by coola » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:55 pm

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... gs/.100305 13 episodes confirmed, so..they will animate Infinity arc for now..maybe it is for better? I'd rather wait year or two, than have ugly looking episodes :)
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Sodhi » Sat Mar 26, 2016 3:55 pm

coola wrote:http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... gs/.100305 13 episodes confirmed, so..they will animate Infinity arc for now..maybe it is for better? I'd rather wait year or two, than have ugly looking episodes :)
I wonder if after this ends world trigger would come back or toei would do a new series altogether.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:02 pm

Crystal's going to air at night. World Trigger airs in the early morning. I don't know if Toei would want to air a kids' series at night. Maybe they will and just make it more serious?
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:50 am

Ootsuka Ken has finished layouts for Episode #39 of a certain work. After that practice drawing of Gokuu and the fact that the episode is coming up soon I'm pretty sure he is working on key animation for Dragon Ball Super Episode #39.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Ajay » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:07 am

"Finished the layout for Ep 39 of That Show.
Mr. Producer, come collect it (^o^)
I wonder if he'll see this?"
Yeah, that's almost definitely Dragon Ball Super. It's the only show that he's worked on lately that's even remotely close to that episode number.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Wezenheim » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:11 am

JulieYBM wrote:Ootsuka Ken has finished layouts for Episode #39 of a certain work. After that practice drawing of Gokuu and the fact that the episode is coming up soon I'm pretty sure he is working on key animation for Dragon Ball Super Episode #39.
某作の39話のレイアウト終わった。
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Can't wait! I hope he got enough time to make a really good cut or two. Goku vs. Hit just might be good.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:29 am

JulieYBM wrote:Ootsuka Ken has finished layouts for Episode #39 of a certain work. After that practice drawing of Gokuu and the fact that the episode is coming up soon I'm pretty sure he is working on key animation for Dragon Ball Super Episode #39.
某作の39話のレイアウト終わった。
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Quick question, since this episode won't air for 3 weeks is finishing layouts at this point good or bad? I have no idea when that comes in the process or exactly what it entails either.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:30 am

I'm excited! That episode hasn't even had it's title revealed yet! X3
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:34 am

ArchedThunder wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Ootsuka Ken has finished layouts for Episode #39 of a certain work. After that practice drawing of Gokuu and the fact that the episode is coming up soon I'm pretty sure he is working on key animation for Dragon Ball Super Episode #39.
某作の39話のレイアウト終わった。
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Quick question, since this episode won't air for 3 weeks is finishing layouts at this point good or bad? I have no idea when that comes in the process or exactly what it entails either.
It's pretty not-good. It means he either has a very small number of cuts or he'll be having to work fast. The average key animator can finish two cuts a day but if Ootsuka is doing action cuts then he'll need to either work fast or only do one cut a day to ensure quality. It's not impossible for him to work on the episode until the very day before it airs, though.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:42 am

JulieYBM wrote:
It's pretty not-good. It means he either has a very small number of cuts or he'll be having to work fast. The average key animator can finish two cuts a day but if Ootsuka is doing action cuts then he'll need to either work fast or only do one cut a day to ensure quality. It's not impossible for him to work on the episode until the very day before it airs, though.
So does animation come right after the layout phase then? What exactly is the layout phase?

Also anyone who can translate, what does he say exactly? Google translate gave me this

Finished layout of the 39 episodes of a certain work .
Please to production 's recovery (^ o ^)
I wonder if looking at ?

Is he actually saying something about the production recovering and then giving a happy emoji?

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Ajay » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:45 am

ArchedThunder wrote: Also anyone who can translate, what does he say exactly? Google translate gave me this
I posted the translation in my reply above.

The layout phase determines how each shot will look. It details the backgrounds, the camera movement, and all that fun stuff.

For example:

Layout:
Genga:
Supervisor Correction:
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by ArchedThunder » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:47 am

Ajay wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote: Also anyone who can translate, what does he say exactly? Google translate gave me this
I posted the translation in my reply above.

The layout phase determines how each shot will look. It details the backgrounds, the camera movement, and all that fun stuff.

For example:

Layout:
Genga:
Supervisor Correction:
So it comes between storyboard and animation then?

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Ajay » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:48 am

ArchedThunder wrote:So it comes between storyboard and animation then?
Yeah, it's like the alpha animation phase. The cuts are given to the animators, and they start drawing out layouts for how their cut will look based on the storyboard.

The Kanzenshuu Animation Process Guide details it better.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by kinisking » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:53 pm

It seems there was CG in this episode after all. Magettas magma when it turned solid and broke seemed CG. and also after the barrier broke there was a brief moment of CG with the shards that looked stunning. Best use of CG i've seen in a while.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Kuririn Fan » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:59 pm

kinisking wrote:It seems there was CG in this episode after all. Magettas magma when it turned solid and broke seemed CG. and also after the barrier broke there was a brief moment of CG with the shards that looked stunning. Best use of CG i've seen in a while.
Yeah, for sure. This episode definitely had some nice movement. I was pleasantly surprised.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:23 pm

-Episode 36-
This episode is full of awesome close ups shots and the animation/art overall was great. I was surprised with the use CGI but it was brilliantly done too.
Props too all the staff behind this one. Great job!
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Sodhi » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:39 am

I have noticed since the last 2 or 3 episodes recaps have gone longer. Now all they need is long powerups to somewhat help the production

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:42 pm

Did they?! I didn't notice it.
If it helps them then its okay, as long as we don't get One Piece intro + recap length.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:49 pm

I haven't noticed the length increase either, but I think that's due to the way it's airing once a week. If I was marathoning it I would've noticed faster.
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