Champa Arc - Will it have a main villain ?

[DainIronfoot]

Why would she hire Hit ? She can do it herself way easier.

Well perhaps there is a rule that the attendants cannot kill their Haikishin? idk. Or maybe she has some sort of plan to make herself seem like she's innocent in all this. She likes to hide the truth quite often it seems. Also as mentioned, this is all just wild speculation. However, I've just been analyzing what she's been doing and acting for some time now and it just seem to me like she is up to something.

[marcbret87]

Why would she hire Hit ? She can do it herself way easier.

Well perhaps there is a rule that the attendants cannot kill their Haikishin? idk. Or maybe she has some sort of plan to make herself seem like she's innocent in all this. She likes to hide the truth quite often it seems. Also as mentioned, this is all just wild speculation. However, I've just been analyzing what she's been doing and acting for some time now and it just seem to me like she is up to something.

I have the same feeling that she is up to no good. Besides, we have no clue about what is the nature of the relation Whis-Beerus Vados-Champa. Good thing is the tournament seems to be progressing fairly quickly so hopefully we'll get some answers fairly soon.

[DainIronfoot]

Why would she hire Hit ? She can do it herself way easier.

Well perhaps there is a rule that the attendants cannot kill their Haikishin? idk. Or maybe she has some sort of plan to make herself seem like she's innocent in all this. She likes to hide the truth quite often it seems. Also as mentioned, this is all just wild speculation. However, I've just been analyzing what she's been doing and acting for some time now and it just seem to me like she is up to something.

I have the same feeling that she is up to no good. Besides, we have no clue about what is the nature of the relation Whis-Beerus Vados-Champa. Good thing is the tournament seems to be progressing fairly quickly so hopefully we'll get some answers fairly soon.

Yep, judging by NEP, looks like at the end Cabbe is going to enter the ring. It's going by quickly. My eye is fixed on Vados during all these episodes.

[Kuririn Fan]

Meh, i dont think Vados is a villain, why would she be?

[Araki]

Meh, i dont think Vados is a villain, why would she be?

Pretty much the only thing we have to come by was that she brought an criminal mastermind and a legendary hitman to the tournament, but that could be due to Champa wanting to win it at any cost, as she explained herself. Other than that, i see Vados as just a different kind of troll compared to her brother. For now, at least.

As for Champa, i'm more and more convinced that he's just a spoiled brat, a lot less dangerous and violent than Beerus. Maybe that's part of the reason people think Vados is up to something? He wouldn't be hard to manipulate.

[marcbret87]

Meh, i dont think Vados is a villain, why would she be?

Pretty much the only thing we have to come by was that she brought an criminal mastermind and a legendary hitman to the tournament, but that could be due to Champa wanting to win it at any cost, as she explained herself. Other than that, i see Vados as just a different kind of troll compared to her brother. For now, at least.

As for Champa, i'm more and more convinced that he's just a spoiled brat, a lot less dangerous and violent than Beerus. Maybe that's part of the reason people think Vados is up to something? He wouldn't be hard to manipulate.

Well, Champa must have been collecting the Super Dragon Balls for a reason, and it did not seem he had good intentions. It does however seem that Champa is more "simple" tan Beerus and simply wants to piss his brother off, while Vados' actions seem a bit more shady in comparison.

[DainIronfoot]

Meh, i dont think Vados is a villain, why would she be?

Pretty much the only thing we have to come by was that she brought an criminal mastermind and a legendary hitman to the tournament, but that could be due to Champa wanting to win it at any cost, as she explained herself. Other than that, i see Vados as just a different kind of troll compared to her brother. For now, at least.

As for Champa, i'm more and more convinced that he's just a spoiled brat, a lot less dangerous and violent than Beerus. Maybe that's part of the reason people think Vados is up to something? He wouldn't be hard to manipulate.

If you watch every episode so far that Vados had been in, you'll start to see more why I have that feeling. As you put it, Champa seems a lot less violent and is a brat. Vados seems like she gets mad whenever she sees that kind of behaviour and she just acts disrespectful to him at times. He very well may be manipulated or even a target!

Also we can't just say that the only thing we can go by is the fact she brought Frost. It's clear from the recent episode that she is also in cahoots with Hit and she definitely promised a deal to him or something. I'm not %100 sure she is in fact going to be a villain of sort but I'm at a solid %90 sure.

[Kuririn Fan]

I've seen every episode of Super and i don't think she's a villain. She doesn't get mad, she just trolls him about his weight, and she also doesn't give a fuck if their fighters are evil, because Champa didn't tell her to do that. And ofc they have prizes, they wouldn't do that for nothing.

[DainIronfoot]

I've seen every episode of Super and i don't think she's a villain. She doesn't get mad, she just trolls him about his weight, and she also doesn't give a fuck if their fighters are evil, because Champa didn't tell her to do that. And ofc they have prizes, they wouldn't do that for nothing.

No, there have definitely been instances where she had gotten upset or slightly agitated. You may have to rewatch episodes she has been in to really see it since of course no one would of thought of it at the time they first watched. Also she doesn't just troll Champa, she disrespects him. It's almost as if she thinks he isn't qualified to be a Haikishin. As for the "prizes", of course they promised that to their fighters. However, she struck a deal with Hit of sort, that was pretty clear in this episode. Those two are definitely up to something.

[Kuririn Fan]

She was surprised when Champa told Beerus about Super Dragon Balls, but that's it. I don't think she'll be a villain.

[DainIronfoot]

She was surprised when Champa told Beerus about Super Dragon Balls, but that's it. I don't think she'll be a villain.

That was not a surprise reaction lad. Anyways, it's ok if you don't think she will be, but I'm almost sure of it.

[DainIronfoot]

Watched this week's episode with subs, did you see how Vados was acting towards Champa this episode?

[Kuririn Fan]

Watched this week's episode with subs, did you see how Vados was acting towards Champa this episode?

Nothing serious. Trolling, not a villain.

[skaw17]

Watched this week's episode with subs, did you see how Vados was acting towards Champa this episode?

Nothing serious. Trolling, not a villain.

Trooll? why troll! I think the same, Vados and Hit will work together. Its rEALLY SIMPLY AND OBVIOUSLY. tOURNAMENT IS FAST, WHY IS FAT? BECAUSE HE WAS EARLY END. wHY EARLY END? BCAUSE WILL VILLAin , strong Villan. in tournament are the most strong persons in two universes... so nobody cant be stronbger than them. so our villain is in tournament. So who? we know about Hit but think - alone hit against everyone? he dont get a chance to win.. someone must help, i'm sure that will Vaods, she hate Champa,.... and Monaka , only one question is what will doing there Monaka ...

[TheMikado]

Personal theory here. Vados hired Hit to kill Champa and Beerus while she takes out her brother.
Beerus insisted on bringing Monaka because he was suspicious of Vados (he's suspicious of everyone)

Meanwhile Vado actually reports to the Super Mega Awesome Omega God of all the universes who is the real big bad and who she happens to be dating because that how the Dragon Ball series treats women and they are always 3-4 layers of bad guys before the "Real" ultimate form big bad is revealed.

[DainIronfoot]

Personal theory here. Vados hired Hit to kill Champa and Beerus while she takes out her brother.
Beerus insisted on bringing Monaka because he was suspicious of Vados (he's suspicious of everyone)

Meanwhile Vado actually reports to the Super Mega Awesome Omega God of all the universes who is the real big bad and who she happens to be dating because that how the Dragon Ball series treats women and they are always 3-4 layers of bad guys before the "Real" ultimate form big bad is revealed.

Interesting theory, and based on the analysis I've been mentioning constantly I do agree with the first part. I believe Vados will be a villain via making Hit take out her own Haikishin who in my opinion she thinks isn't worthy to be one from all the insults etc. I'm not sure about the other points about Monaka, Beerus and Whis but it's possible she does answer to a higher god. However, currently my only real theory is that Vados is going to be a villain with Hit (with the scenario I mentioned above).

[namekiansaiyan]

Vados can't be bad. Why after all these years with Champa would she turn evil. The only person who can stop Vados is Whis as everyone would lose in a second so how would they stop her plan. But how can there be villain who is stronger than Whis and Vados who can cause trouble.
The only thing that can actually make sense is if someone came from another universe or something crazy kills Vados, Champa, Beerus and Champa.

[Konig]

Vados can't be bad. Why after all these years with Champa would she turn evil. The only person who can stop Vados is Whis as everyone would lose in a second so how would they stop her plan. But how can there be villain who is stronger than Whis and Vados who can cause trouble.
The only thing that can actually make sense is if someone came from another universe or something crazy kills Vados, Champa, Beerus and Champa.

Maybe she tried to work with Champa all this time, but he lacked the discipline/seriousness/whatever needed for a God of Destruction, so Vados had enough and decided to substitute him, which lead her to hire hit (so no one would know she is behind all this). Furthermore, Dragon Ball villains don't make sense at times (for example, Commander Red and his evil plan of getting a few feet taller), so go figure. lol

Concerning Vados' strength, I believe SSB Vegito could put up a fight against her (maybe that's why the writers defused Kibito Kai, so Goku and Vegeta could Potara fuse in the future knowing that they could defuse with the help of the dragon balls).

[DainIronfoot]

Vados can't be bad. Why after all these years with Champa would she turn evil. The only person who can stop Vados is Whis as everyone would lose in a second so how would they stop her plan. But how can there be villain who is stronger than Whis and Vados who can cause trouble.
The only thing that can actually make sense is if someone came from another universe or something crazy kills Vados, Champa, Beerus and Champa.

Just because Vados may have not been "bad" before doesn't mean she can't turn bad or do something that's considered bad. Plus we don't know the full scope of Vados and Champa's history. We can only go by what we have seen. Before, Champa may have been tough, strong and ruthless and now he's lazy, sometimes acts pathetic or sympathetic. You have to analyze these things. It's definitely possible that some other creature from a different universe may come and end up being the bad guy. However, I'm sticking with my theory that Vados may end up working with Hit and being on the other side. You can disagree, but I'm sticking to my analysis for now.

[DainIronfoot]

Vados can't be bad. Why after all these years with Champa would she turn evil. The only person who can stop Vados is Whis as everyone would lose in a second so how would they stop her plan. But how can there be villain who is stronger than Whis and Vados who can cause trouble.
The only thing that can actually make sense is if someone came from another universe or something crazy kills Vados, Champa, Beerus and Champa.

Maybe she tried to work with Champa all this time, but he lacked the discipline/seriousness/whatever needed for a God of Destruction, so Vados had enough and decided to substitute him, which lead her to hire hit (so no one would know she is behind all this). Furthermore, Dragon Ball villains don't make sense at times (for example, Commander Red and his evil plan of getting a few feet taller), so go figure. lol

Concerning Vados' strength, I believe SSB Vegito could put up a fight against her (maybe that's why the writers defused Kibito Kai, so Goku and Vegeta could Potara fuse in the future knowing that they could defuse with the help of the dragon balls).

Beat me to it. I see your analysis has been similar to mine. Glad to see others are starting to see the pattern too.