Bansho64 wrote:Piccolo (Buu Saga) vs Zangya
Bojack's cronies don't seem too terribly strong on their own, and rely mostly on teamwork to be effective. So I'm gonna say Piccolo wins, though it wouldn't be easy.
apex_pretador wrote:- BoJack , M8 broly , M10 broly, Perfect Cell, Super 13, Yakon, Pui Pui
VS
SS Goku, SS2 adult Gohan, Piccolo, Majin Vegeta (all buu arc), Tien, Krillin, #16 (Cell Games)
The heroes win through superior average strength. Goku holds off Movie 10 Broli while Vegeta slaughters the Movie 8 version and Bojack at the same time. Vegeta then joins Goku to take help him take out the stronger Broli. Meanwhile, Gohan defeats Perfect Cell without too much trouble (assuming he's not "Super Perfect"), Piccolo destroys Super 13, Sixteen easily eradicates Yakon, and Kuririn and Ten tackle Pui-Pui together.
EDIT: Ah crap, just noticed it's only SS Goku, not SS2. In that case, the heroes' chances are much slimmer, but they can still probably win. Vegeta would have to take on the role of holding off M10 Broli while Gohan stretches himself thin between Perfect Cell, Bojack, and M8 Broli, who in my book are all around the same strength. SS1 Goku could probably hold off one of those three long enough, but he would probably need SS2 Gohan's help to beat any of them. It would boil down to whether Gohan still has the strength left to help Vegeta effectively against M10 Broli. Piccolo, 16, and the Earthlings' fights wouldn't change, so maybe Piccolo could be of help to the Super Saiyans once he's done with Super 13.
apex_pretador wrote:- Kid Krillin, Kid goku , Kid yamcha (BoDB) VS Ninja Murasaki
- Raditz & Yamcha (both pre death, no jobbing) VS 4 Saibaimen
- Krillin (Saiyan arc) vs Raditz & Yamcha
- Tien (23rd TB) vs BoZ Krillin & Yamcha & Yajirobe
- Popo vs 23rd TB Tien , FP Daimao , FP kid goku (god water)
— Somehow I doubt any of these heroes are strong enough to beat Murasaki until they've had some training under Muten Roshi.
— Putting aside their character flaws, Raditz and Yamcha are both strong, tough, and skilled enough to have a big overall advantage over any Saibaiman. I bet they could defeat two each.
— Kuririn's not quite strong enough to handle both of them at once.
— Tenshinhan's still stronger than any of them individually, but I doubt enough to win against all 3 at once.
— Same deal... Popo's stronger, but not enough to win 3-against-1.
Bansho64 wrote:Future 18 vs Mecha Freeza
Sure the Future Androids are weaker, but not
that much weaker. Cyborg Freeza gets picked apart easily.
Pocket-God wrote:Who on this list can Piccolo(Cell Games) beat?
I think he's a bit stronger than "Super" (Grade 2) Vegeta, so that's the strongest person he could beat. Maybe he could stalemate Grade 3 Trunks too, if he makes use of his speed advantage like Cell did. He might also be able to give the suppressed Cell a decent fight.
apex_pretador wrote:- Buu arc Piccolo , CG goku , Buu arc SS gohan VS SS Majin vegeta (no SS2)
- Buu arc Piccolo , CG goku , Buu arc SS gohan VS BoJack
- BoG SS3 goku , Buu arc mystic Gohan , SS3 gotenks (no time limit) VS buuhan
- Kid goku (no tail, 21st TB) vs Nam (21st TB)
- Bora, General blue , Goku (pre karin) VS Akkuman / devilman (no devilmite/akkumite beam)
- Kid buuhan (kid buu + gohan) vs super buuku (super buu + SS3 goku)
— The team can win, but Gohan will end up doing most of the work.
— Gohan-Boo is much too strong for Gohan or Gotenks to beat, and SS3 Goku is still too weak compared to all of them to make any difference.
— Man I dunno. Did Goku's tail regrowing actually make him stronger, or just give him an edge as an extra limb of sorts? I doubt he'd need it to beat Nam either way.
— My gut says that Devilman wins.
— Pure Boo and Goku are roughly equal, but Gohan's stronger than Evil Boo. Which means when all the absorption addition is over with, Gohan-absorbed Pure Boo ends up the stronger of the two. So odds are that victory goes to him.
Zombie wrote:Perfect Cell [initial] vs SSG2 Trunks. According to 16, this Cell was still inferior to Super Vegeta. How would he fare against this Trunks?
It'd be about equal and could go either way, I guess?
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:- Sick SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. SSj Goku (Yardrat)
- Sick SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. Piccolo (Android Arc)
- All forms of Majin Boo vs. Super Vegetto
- SSj Gotenks (Pre ROSAT) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Piccolo (Saiyan Arc) vs. Gohan (Saiyan Arc,Against Vegeta)
- Initial Semi Perfect Cell vs. SSj Vegeta (Post ROSAT 1st Time)
- Full Power Semi Perfect Cell vs. SSj Vegeta (Post ROSAT 1st Time)
- Goku and Piccolo (BOZ) vs. Chaozu (Saiyan Arc)
- 50% Innocent Boo vs. SSj2 Majin Vegeta
- Base Vegetto (Anime) vs. SSj Gogeta (Movie 12)
— Sick Goku may start off the battle a bit stronger, but he won't stay that way.
— Same deal. Goku starts off with an advantage, but it's not going to last.
— With a single wave of his hand, Vegetto eradicates all but Gohan- and Gotenks-absorbed Boo. He then casually takes his time eliminating them as well.
— Gotenks is a little stronger, and he's actually a little LESS likely than Gohan to screw up and lose a fight. Gotenks probably wins.
— Gohan can only bring out significant strength in small angry bursts. In a straightforward fight, Piccolo's stronger, more skilled, and wins pretty easily.
— I'm going to say Vegeta's the stronger one until Cell powers up.
— Stage-2 Cell at full power, however, is a bit too much for Vegeta without Grade 2.
— Chaozu's much weaker than Raditz and much more fragile too. Both Piccolo and Goku would be familiar with his psychic tricks too, and know how to deal with them. The duo manages to win.
— Based on Boo's power refill meter, at 50% he'd be on roughly equal standing in power with SS2 Goku or Vegeta. The odds are in Vegeta's favor, I think.
— Vegetto's definitely stronger than Gogeta, but not a whopping 50x or more stronger. I don't see Vegetto being any more than 5 times stronger than Gogeta, at the very most. When stuck in his base form he's absolutely no match for Super Gogeta.
ThePiccolo wrote:- Piccolo (Weighted, post King Kai, pre Nail fusion) vs Captain Ginyu (No Body Change)
- Kuririn (Freeza Fight) vs Injured Oozaru Vegeta (Saiyan Saga)
- Piccolo (Trunks Saga) vs Base Future Trunks (Trunks Saga)
- King Cold vs Android 19
- Imperfect Cell (Entire Human Population Absorbed) vs Super Perfect Cell
- Nail vs Jeice
- 25 TB SSJ Goten vs SSJG2 Vegeta (vs Semi Cell)
- 25 TB SSJ Kid Trunks vs SSJG3 Trunks (vs Perfect Cell)
— No good way to tell. We don't know much about Piccolo's strength at that point.
— Cold starts off with a power advantage, but it would disappear very quickly if 19 gets to absorb any ki from him.
— I guess if Stage-1 Cell kept growing at the same rate from absorbing humans, then he'd certainly trump his perfect form by a wide margin.
— I think Nail could beat any of the Ginyu Force trio one-on-one without too much trouble.
— Goten has a power advantage, but is much less skilled and experienced, which Vegeta may figure out a way to exploit. Not likely though if Goten's doing his best for the win from the start.
— Trunks is a match for Trunks in raw strength, and the younger version could only win this the same way Cell did.
Bansho64 wrote:Super Saiyan Goku (Cell Games) Vs Dabra and Supreme Kai.
Goku is about equal in raw power to Dabra and could beat him one-on-one, but not with Kaioshin to worry about at the same time.
Bansho64 wrote:SS Future Trunks (Before Time Travel) vs 50% Final Form Freeza
Define "before time travel." The only Super Saiyan Future Trunks we see who couldn't beat Freeza is the young 14-year-old one sparring with base Gohan in the manga or freshly transformed in the anime. By the time he's 17 and preparing to time travel, Freeza is easy pickings for him.
SSJFutureTrunks wrote:CG Krillin vs. First Form Frieza.
Unless he gets lucky with a Taiyoken + Kienzan combo, then Kuririn gets brutalized in a direct fight. Even being optimistic, he's still less than half of Freeza's strength.
ahill1 wrote:Gotenks SSJ (pre Rosat) vs Kid Boo
Gotenks is "only" about as strong as the Super Saiyan 2s, and fares no better against Pure Boo than Vegeta did. He'd need that RoSaT training to even put up a decent fight, and Super Saiyan 3 to win.
Pocket-God wrote:Broly (Movie 
runs the Cell Gauntlet, first in SSJ then in LSSJ.
I consider Super Saiyan and LSS Broli in Movie 8 to be roughly equivalent to "Initial" and Full-Power Perfect Cell. So those are the versions of Cell who beat Broli in both runs, since at equal powers Cell is much smarter and more skilled.
Pocket-God wrote:Janemba runs the Buu Gauntlet, first as Fat Janemba then as Super Janemba.
Fat Janemba beats Fat Boo but hits a brick wall against Pure Boo, and Super Janemba likewise beats regular Evil Boo but can't quite measure up to either of his absorbed forms.
apex_pretador wrote:- #17, #18, #19, #20 VS Kamiccolo, SS goku (healthy) , SS vegeta , SS trunks , Tien , Yamcha (all pre rosat, careful about absorptions)
- #16 vs #17, #18 & Kamiccolo
- Cell (imperfect, pre absorptions) VS Future #17
- #18 vs future 17, future 18 and future trunks (pre rosat)
- Shisami (DBS) vs Piccolo (pre nail merging) , shisami is trying to kill weakened Nail, and piccolo tries to save him.
- Cell (vs goku) vs tagoma (vs piccolo)
- Super #13, #16, Imperfect cell (post), Kamiccolo, #17, #18 vs initial semi-perfect cell (No absorptions allowed)
- Future gohan SS (when he fought less than 50% 17 with two arms) vs 100% freeza (no stamina problems)
— The heroes' chances are slim, but if Piccolo and one of the Super Saiyans can hold off the Android twins for just a little bit while the other two quickly finish off 19 and 20, then they'll have a distinct strength in numbers that give them a good shot. Tenshinhan also might be able to stall for time with the Shin Kikoho, but otherwise he and Yamcha
(no Kuririn?) have no reason to even be here.
— Hard to tell. The trio might be able to overwhelm 16 by all fighting together, but the odds aren't good.
— We don't really know what Cell's strength is before
any absorptions. But the first time we see him, in Ginger Town, I think he was already a match for the weaker future Androids.
— I doubt the power difference between the present and future Androids is so great that 18 can handle all three of these guys at once.
— Again, hard to tell because Super doesn't seem interested in offering clarity on anyone's relative strength. But if Shisami is "only" about as strong as Zarbon or Dodoria, then Piccolo can probably take him.
— Again, the power differences aren't all too massive, so the team has at least a small shot at victory.
— My imaginary numbers would put SS Gohan around the 100 million mark. So he's a smidge weaker than Freeza and the odds are against him.
