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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:06 pm

I was a defender of the Funimation Z dub, but as of lately I've been doing a few Kai marathons, and I've become really accustomed to this version of DBZ.

Kai is now my default option for watching the show in English, I love it, the cast really did a magnificent job at their second shot. The difference in acting performance is staggering.

And the replaced cast really fit, I can't get enough of Chris Ayres as Frieza. The man knows that character. I do have nostalgia for Linda Young's performance, and I respect her as an actress but compared to Ayres she was really miscast in that role.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:11 pm

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:I was a defender of the Funimation Z dub, but as of lately I've been doing a few Kai marathons, and I've become really accustomed to this version of DBZ.

Kai is now my default option for watching the show in English, I love it, the cast really did a magnificent job at their second shot. The difference in acting performance is staggering.

And the replaced cast really fit, I can't get enough of Chris Ayres as Frieza. The man knows that character. I do have nostalgia for Linda Young's performance, and I respect her as an actress but compared to Ayres she was really miscast in that role.
Not to mention the characterizations of the characters between the two dubs are often very different.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:17 am

After rewatching both shows, I can honestly say 4kids dub of Pokémon's indigo league is better then Funi's Dub of DB,Z and GT.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by gohann » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:33 pm

^4Kids didn't deserve the hate they got just because of what they did to One Piece, most of their other dubs were actually good.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:24 am

gohann wrote:^4Kids didn't deserve the hate they got just because of what they did to One Piece, most of their other dubs were actually good.
They're hated because they were a hack company who actively insults the intelligence of their audience.

Also they did a shit job with the Yu-Gi-Oh! series, Sonic X (then again, Sonic X was pretty much shit to begin with), Tokyo Mew Mew, etc.

The only dub outside Pokemon they did okay with was Kinnikuman Nisei (and even that has some serious issues).
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:30 am

gohann wrote:^4Kids didn't deserve the hate they got just because of what they did to One Piece, most of their other dubs were actually good.
Even as a kid watching Yu-Gi-Oh! I could see through everything they used to cover up deaths. I do have nostalgia for that dub and own the whole thing, but 4Kids do have a tendency to underestimate the intelligence of their target audience.

Pokémon was fine, but much like Dragon Ball Super when it gets dubbed there's very little you could censor.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by coola » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:33 am

Spoilers for Super:

Chi Chi is such annoying b.tch, i thought she was bad in Saiyan saga, but you could understand that, her being inexperienced as mother, and witnesing what happened to Goku at 23rd Budokai, but..she mellowed down in Cell-Buu saga, so what happeed here? Why they made her like that again? I swear she is one of main reasons i don't like this series, and i just wait for someone to kill her slowly :evil: I know she is supposed to be this stereotypical Japanese equivalent of soccer mom, but...I'm sorry, its not funny, at least for me.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ringworm128 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:59 am

Between the more consistent video quality, better Japanese voice work, better music placement and me finding the redub of Z and later dubbing fairly enjoyable and not being bothered by filler, I'm preferring Z more and more. If it wasn't for the excellent dub I'd probably forget Kai exists.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:37 am

coola wrote:Spoilers for Super:

Chi Chi is such annoying b.tch, i thought she was bad in Saiyan saga, but you could understand that, her being inexperienced as mother, and witnesing what happened to Goku at 23rd Budokai, but..she mellowed down in Cell-Buu saga, so what happeed here? Why they made her like that again? I swear she is one of main reasons i don't like this series, and i just wait for someone to kill her slowly :evil: I know she is supposed to be this stereotypical Japanese equivalent of soccer mom, but...I'm sorry, its not funny, at least for me.
Do you really consider 4 years inexperienced?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by coola » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:19 am

Like Gabby said in her video, she was sort of a bumpkin, for many years living with Ox-King, not sure if 4 years are enough to change that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSsZUGJqhgE Personally, i don't really have problem with manga or anime Saiyan Saga-Garlic Jr. Chi Chi, but Toei Chi Chi..they made her so obsessive, and she is worse in Super.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:23 am

You don't need to stop being a country bumpkin to be a good mother. The video you posted is interesting, but I'm not buying that Chichi couldn't comprehend that Buu was a mystical monster. There's naiveté and then there's willingly blind. She's seen too much by that point to not get that.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:28 am

Chi-Chi being a hick would probably make her more susceptible to being frightened of things like mystical monsters or anything possibly otherworldly or superstitious being real.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:56 am

ekrolo2 wrote:Chi-Chi being a hick would probably make her more susceptible to being frightened of things like mystical monsters or anything possibly otherworldly or superstitious being real.
She's killed dinosaurs.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:59 am

ABED wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Chi-Chi being a hick would probably make her more susceptible to being frightened of things like mystical monsters or anything possibly otherworldly or superstitious being real.
She's killed dinosaurs.
There are hicks out there that make a living killing crocs and they'll flip shit over something superstitious anyway.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:09 am

ekrolo2 wrote:
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ekrolo2 wrote:Chi-Chi being a hick would probably make her more susceptible to being frightened of things like mystical monsters or anything possibly otherworldly or superstitious being real.
She's killed dinosaurs.
There are hicks out there that make a living killing crocs and they'll flip shit over something superstitious anyway.
By that point in the series, she had been around or knew of those things for years. She didn't hit Buu because she couldn't conceive of a being like that. She hit him because she was understandably angry. It was about catharsis.

And yeah, 4 years is plenty of experience for a mother.

Sure, Chichi lived with her father who was Muten Roshi's student. Let's not forget that her home was set on fire by something mystical, so she's not unfamiliar with mysticism.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DemonRin » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:55 am

Unpopular DB opinions?

I'm actually pretty happy with Super so far. I'm behind, still in the Resurrection F arc, but I'm enjoying it fairly well. It's still clearly Toei primarily in control, but I can feel Toriyama's hand in it, however light that may be, and it feels fun as a result.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:20 pm

Burn the witch!

LOL Sorry couldnt resist. I'm pretty glad you presented an actual positive yet massively unpopular opinion, everyone else seems to think its a place to complain regardless of any popularity. Like Coola, dont you think everyone hates Chichi already?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:10 pm

ABED wrote:
coola wrote:Spoilers for Super:

Chi Chi is such annoying b.tch, i thought she was bad in Saiyan saga, but you could understand that, her being inexperienced as mother, and witnesing what happened to Goku at 23rd Budokai, but..she mellowed down in Cell-Buu saga, so what happeed here? Why they made her like that again? I swear she is one of main reasons i don't like this series, and i just wait for someone to kill her slowly :evil: I know she is supposed to be this stereotypical Japanese equivalent of soccer mom, but...I'm sorry, its not funny, at least for me.
Do you really consider 4 years inexperienced?
Pretty much...
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Burn the witch!

LOL Sorry couldnt resist. I'm pretty glad you presented an actual positive yet massively unpopular opinion, everyone else seems to think its a place to complain regardless of any popularity. Like Coola, dont you think everyone hates Chichi already?
Most of those people are Gohan "fans" who can't accept Gohan's not really the "badass" fighter they thought he was. Toei seems determined to make her as unlikable as possible in Super.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by coola » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:01 pm

I dont mind Gohan not beiong badass, he never meant to be one, he is very strong fighter, who hates fighting,, only thing i dont like, is Toei made him such loser in Super F. As for unpopular positie opinion, i like Garlic Jr. Saga, mostly becasue of Gohan/Kurirn/Piccolo dynamic, and i find Marron to be hot :)
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:36 pm

Pretty much...
How do you figure? By 4, parents have dealt with their kids being infants, the terrible 2's, and being toddlers. That's A LOT of experience. She's not a newbie.

Here's my unpopular opinion, Piccolo is NOT the better father figure.
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