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I was a defender of the Funimation Z dub, but as of lately I've been doing a few Kai marathons, and I've become really accustomed to this version of DBZ.
Kai is now my default option for watching the show in English, I love it, the cast really did a magnificent job at their second shot. The difference in acting performance is staggering.
And the replaced cast really fit, I can't get enough of Chris Ayres as Frieza. The man knows that character. I do have nostalgia for Linda Young's performance, and I respect her as an actress but compared to Ayres she was really miscast in that role.
Kai is now my default option for watching the show in English, I love it, the cast really did a magnificent job at their second shot. The difference in acting performance is staggering.
And the replaced cast really fit, I can't get enough of Chris Ayres as Frieza. The man knows that character. I do have nostalgia for Linda Young's performance, and I respect her as an actress but compared to Ayres she was really miscast in that role.
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Not to mention the characterizations of the characters between the two dubs are often very different.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:I was a defender of the Funimation Z dub, but as of lately I've been doing a few Kai marathons, and I've become really accustomed to this version of DBZ.
Kai is now my default option for watching the show in English, I love it, the cast really did a magnificent job at their second shot. The difference in acting performance is staggering.
And the replaced cast really fit, I can't get enough of Chris Ayres as Frieza. The man knows that character. I do have nostalgia for Linda Young's performance, and I respect her as an actress but compared to Ayres she was really miscast in that role.
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After rewatching both shows, I can honestly say 4kids dub of Pokémon's indigo league is better then Funi's Dub of DB,Z and GT.
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^4Kids didn't deserve the hate they got just because of what they did to One Piece, most of their other dubs were actually good.
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They're hated because they were a hack company who actively insults the intelligence of their audience.gohann wrote:^4Kids didn't deserve the hate they got just because of what they did to One Piece, most of their other dubs were actually good.
Also they did a shit job with the Yu-Gi-Oh! series, Sonic X (then again, Sonic X was pretty much shit to begin with), Tokyo Mew Mew, etc.
The only dub outside Pokemon they did okay with was Kinnikuman Nisei (and even that has some serious issues).
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Even as a kid watching Yu-Gi-Oh! I could see through everything they used to cover up deaths. I do have nostalgia for that dub and own the whole thing, but 4Kids do have a tendency to underestimate the intelligence of their target audience.gohann wrote:^4Kids didn't deserve the hate they got just because of what they did to One Piece, most of their other dubs were actually good.
Pokémon was fine, but much like Dragon Ball Super when it gets dubbed there's very little you could censor.
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Chi Chi is such annoying b.tch, i thought she was bad in Saiyan saga, but you could understand that, her being inexperienced as mother, and witnesing what happened to Goku at 23rd Budokai, but..she mellowed down in Cell-Buu saga, so what happeed here? Why they made her like that again? I swear she is one of main reasons i don't like this series, and i just wait for someone to kill her slowly
I know she is supposed to be this stereotypical Japanese equivalent of soccer mom, but...I'm sorry, its not funny, at least for me.
Chi Chi is such annoying b.tch, i thought she was bad in Saiyan saga, but you could understand that, her being inexperienced as mother, and witnesing what happened to Goku at 23rd Budokai, but..she mellowed down in Cell-Buu saga, so what happeed here? Why they made her like that again? I swear she is one of main reasons i don't like this series, and i just wait for someone to kill her slowly

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Between the more consistent video quality, better Japanese voice work, better music placement and me finding the redub of Z and later dubbing fairly enjoyable and not being bothered by filler, I'm preferring Z more and more. If it wasn't for the excellent dub I'd probably forget Kai exists.
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Do you really consider 4 years inexperienced?coola wrote:Spoilers for Super:
Chi Chi is such annoying b.tch, i thought she was bad in Saiyan saga, but you could understand that, her being inexperienced as mother, and witnesing what happened to Goku at 23rd Budokai, but..she mellowed down in Cell-Buu saga, so what happeed here? Why they made her like that again? I swear she is one of main reasons i don't like this series, and i just wait for someone to kill her slowlyI know she is supposed to be this stereotypical Japanese equivalent of soccer mom, but...I'm sorry, its not funny, at least for me.
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Like Gabby said in her video, she was sort of a bumpkin, for many years living with Ox-King, not sure if 4 years are enough to change that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSsZUGJqhgE Personally, i don't really have problem with manga or anime Saiyan Saga-Garlic Jr. Chi Chi, but Toei Chi Chi..they made her so obsessive, and she is worse in Super.
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You don't need to stop being a country bumpkin to be a good mother. The video you posted is interesting, but I'm not buying that Chichi couldn't comprehend that Buu was a mystical monster. There's naiveté and then there's willingly blind. She's seen too much by that point to not get that.
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Chi-Chi being a hick would probably make her more susceptible to being frightened of things like mystical monsters or anything possibly otherworldly or superstitious being real.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
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She's killed dinosaurs.ekrolo2 wrote:Chi-Chi being a hick would probably make her more susceptible to being frightened of things like mystical monsters or anything possibly otherworldly or superstitious being real.
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There are hicks out there that make a living killing crocs and they'll flip shit over something superstitious anyway.ABED wrote:She's killed dinosaurs.ekrolo2 wrote:Chi-Chi being a hick would probably make her more susceptible to being frightened of things like mystical monsters or anything possibly otherworldly or superstitious being real.
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By that point in the series, she had been around or knew of those things for years. She didn't hit Buu because she couldn't conceive of a being like that. She hit him because she was understandably angry. It was about catharsis.ekrolo2 wrote:There are hicks out there that make a living killing crocs and they'll flip shit over something superstitious anyway.ABED wrote:She's killed dinosaurs.ekrolo2 wrote:Chi-Chi being a hick would probably make her more susceptible to being frightened of things like mystical monsters or anything possibly otherworldly or superstitious being real.
And yeah, 4 years is plenty of experience for a mother.
Sure, Chichi lived with her father who was Muten Roshi's student. Let's not forget that her home was set on fire by something mystical, so she's not unfamiliar with mysticism.
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Unpopular DB opinions?
I'm actually pretty happy with Super so far. I'm behind, still in the Resurrection F arc, but I'm enjoying it fairly well. It's still clearly Toei primarily in control, but I can feel Toriyama's hand in it, however light that may be, and it feels fun as a result.
I'm actually pretty happy with Super so far. I'm behind, still in the Resurrection F arc, but I'm enjoying it fairly well. It's still clearly Toei primarily in control, but I can feel Toriyama's hand in it, however light that may be, and it feels fun as a result.
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LOL Sorry couldnt resist. I'm pretty glad you presented an actual positive yet massively unpopular opinion, everyone else seems to think its a place to complain regardless of any popularity. Like Coola, dont you think everyone hates Chichi already?
LOL Sorry couldnt resist. I'm pretty glad you presented an actual positive yet massively unpopular opinion, everyone else seems to think its a place to complain regardless of any popularity. Like Coola, dont you think everyone hates Chichi already?
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Pretty much...ABED wrote:Do you really consider 4 years inexperienced?coola wrote:Spoilers for Super:
Chi Chi is such annoying b.tch, i thought she was bad in Saiyan saga, but you could understand that, her being inexperienced as mother, and witnesing what happened to Goku at 23rd Budokai, but..she mellowed down in Cell-Buu saga, so what happeed here? Why they made her like that again? I swear she is one of main reasons i don't like this series, and i just wait for someone to kill her slowlyI know she is supposed to be this stereotypical Japanese equivalent of soccer mom, but...I'm sorry, its not funny, at least for me.
Most of those people are Gohan "fans" who can't accept Gohan's not really the "badass" fighter they thought he was. Toei seems determined to make her as unlikable as possible in Super.Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Burn the witch!
LOL Sorry couldnt resist. I'm pretty glad you presented an actual positive yet massively unpopular opinion, everyone else seems to think its a place to complain regardless of any popularity. Like Coola, dont you think everyone hates Chichi already?
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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I dont mind Gohan not beiong badass, he never meant to be one, he is very strong fighter, who hates fighting,, only thing i dont like, is Toei made him such loser in Super F. As for unpopular positie opinion, i like Garlic Jr. Saga, mostly becasue of Gohan/Kurirn/Piccolo dynamic, and i find Marron to be hot 

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How do you figure? By 4, parents have dealt with their kids being infants, the terrible 2's, and being toddlers. That's A LOT of experience. She's not a newbie.Pretty much...
Here's my unpopular opinion, Piccolo is NOT the better father figure.
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