The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Bansho64]

Nappa vs Jaco

[Lord Beerus]

Nappa vs Jaco

I think Jaco loses quite badly. The best we've seen his do so far is handle Freeza's mooks in Resurrection F. And I don't think any of them had a BP as high as Nappa's, excluding Shisamai.

[DBZAOTA482]

Cyborg Tao vs. Piccolo Daimao (young; initial)

[ZombieVito]

Cyborg Tao vs. Piccolo Daimao (young; initial)

Daimao beats him just as easily as Thenshinhan. Maybe even more.

[Bansho64]

Second Form Cell vs Supreme Kaioshin

[Khin]

Second Form Cell vs Supreme Kaioshin

After casually dodging all Cell throws at him.Kaioshin gets bored and incinerates the bio android in a matter seconds.Full Power Perfect Cell would be a better match IMO.

[apex_pretador]

Nappa vs Jaco

nappa one-shots, then wonders why Jaco died when he held back so much.

Cyborg Tao vs. Piccolo Daimao (young; initial)

Cyborg Tao ~= Drum << Initial young daimao IMO.

Second Form Cell vs Supreme Kaioshin

Kaioshin one-shots.
Even east kaioshin can one-shot semi-cell.

[ZombieVito]

Second Form Cell vs Supreme Kaioshin

Jesus... How week do you have CG Piccolo?

New fight:

First form Freeza vs SSJ Gotenks. Both RoF arc.

[Hellspawn28]

Mageta runs the gauntlet and no one can insult him, or destroy the planet

1.ssj3 Goku and majin Vegeta
2. Ssj3 gotenks
3. Ultimate gohan (buu)
4. Buu han (no absorbing)
5. Vegito base (buu saga)
6. Vegeta berserk (bog)
7. Piccolo (champa)
8. Ssj God Goku
9. 70% beerus

Stops at Piccolo or SSjG Goku. He was strong enough to put up against SSj Vegeta and SSj Champa saga Vegeta is way stronger than ROF 4th form Freeza. 4th form Freeza would be strong enough to beat Buu and Vegito easily.

[apex_pretador]

Second Form Cell vs Supreme Kaioshin

Jesus... How week do you have CG Piccolo?

New fight:

First form Freeza vs SSJ Gotenks. Both RoF arc.

Gotenks has soooo little power advantage that he can't win without wasting 30 minutes.

Or best-case scenario - Freeza just blows the planet up.

[apex_pretador]

Some new battles: Indestructible planet, just in case

(Straight from my PL lists to find close matches)

• Chiaotzu (post Kami) VS BoZ Goku , no Telekinesis / psychic powers
• Regular Zarbon vs Ginyu Goku, no body change
• Regular Zarbon vs Krillin (vs Ginyu goku)
• Piccolo (pre kami) vs bulked up freeza on Namek
• Piccolo (CG) vs Perfect cell (as he fought vegeta)
• Yakon vs King Cold
• Tao Pai Pai vs Saibaman ripoff from Movie 2
• The 3 bio fighters, who fought & beat roshi (Movie 2) VS Raditz, all at once, strong tail
• Turles (Moon ball, indestructible tail) vs KaioKen Goku (Namek)

What I think
- Goku is a little bit stronger. If he manages to get a super-kamehameha, chiaotzu is dead.
- Ginyu goku is faster, more skilled, and more battle aware. Zarbon lost at similar ki levels vs vegeta due to speed. Same here.
- Krillin beats him up if not cuts him in half
- Piccolo is dead even with this freeza due to the excessive damage freeza took. Piccolo will finish this off quickly with a well-placed makankosappo after freeza gets tired
- Yakon is dead because cold is a good bit stronger and likely a better fighter
- Tao pai pai loses. Roshi is much stronger than him, and he had a lot of trouble.
- Raditz blitzes them.
- Kaioken goku uses SF + KHH combo to defeat the big beast if he can charge a powered up KHH.

[ZombieVito]

Some new battles: Indestructible planet, just in case

(Straight from my PL lists to find close matches)

• Chiaotzu (post Kami) VS BoZ Goku , no Telekinesis / psychic powers
• Regular Zarbon vs Ginyu Goku, no body change
• Regular Zarbon vs Krillin (vs Ginyu goku)
• Piccolo (pre kami) vs bulked up freeza on Namek
• Piccolo (CG) vs Perfect cell (as he fought vegeta)
• Yakon vs King Cold
• Tao Pai Pai vs Saibaman ripoff from Movie 2
• The 3 bio fighters, who fought & beat roshi (Movie 2) VS Raditz, all at once, strong tail
• Turles (Moon ball, indestructible tail) vs KaioKen Goku (Namek)

Chiaotzu is way stronger but Goku can kill his ass with a Super Kamehameha.
Ginyu should take this by skill alone.
Kuririn is a bit stronger. He wins after a good fight.
Piccolo one shots.
Piccolo losses. He admitted inferiority to this Cell.
I think Cold has the advantage here.
I really don't care enough for movie 2 for these two matches.
This is Oozaru Turles right? He wins unless Goku uses Kaioken x3 or 4.

[DanielSSJ]

Some new battles: Indestructible planet, just in case

(Straight from my PL lists to find close matches)

• Chiaotzu (post Kami) VS BoZ Goku , no Telekinesis / psychic powers
• Regular Zarbon vs Ginyu Goku, no body change
• Regular Zarbon vs Krillin (vs Ginyu goku)
• Piccolo (pre kami) vs bulked up freeza on Namek
• Piccolo (CG) vs Perfect cell (as he fought vegeta)
• Yakon vs King Cold
• Tao Pai Pai vs Saibaman ripoff from Movie 2
• The 3 bio fighters, who fought & beat roshi (Movie 2) VS Raditz, all at once, strong tail
• Turles (Moon ball, indestructible tail) vs KaioKen Goku (Namek)

What I think
- Goku is a little bit stronger. If he manages to get a super-kamehameha, chiaotzu is dead.
- Ginyu goku is faster, more skilled, and more battle aware. Zarbon lost at similar ki levels vs vegeta due to speed. Same here.
- Krillin beats him up if not cuts him in half
- Piccolo is dead even with this freeza due to the excessive damage freeza took. Piccolo will finish this off quickly with a well-placed makankosappo after freeza gets tired
- Yakon is dead because cold is a good bit stronger and likely a better fighter
- Tao pai pai loses. Roshi is much stronger than him, and he had a lot of trouble.
- Raditz blitzes them.
- Kaioken goku uses SF + KHH combo to defeat the big beast if he can charge a powered up KHH.

- If it were Piccolo and Goku vs Chaozu, they'd win. Goku on his own isn't strong enough to deal with him, unfortunately.
- The two are dead even, but Ginyu isn't used to using Goku's body and won't be able to fight effectively. Zarbon will eventually overcome him.
- Kuririn's a bit weaker, but is more skilled and has more techniques. It's a tough fight, but my money's on the little guy.
- Not even close. Piccolo is about as strong as Yardrat Goku, in my book. Even if he's weaker, Freeza's shitty stamina seals his defeat.
- Piccolo's about as strong as Super Vegeta, in my eyes. He might fare a bit better since he isn't fighting with an increased energy consumption, but Cell still takes it very easily.
- I dunno...Coinflip... Yakon.
- You mean the buggers that beat Gohan but lost to Roshi? 'Nother coinflip... Saibaiman clones win.
- A post-Vegeta Goku struggled agaist these guys. Raditz stands no chance.
- Is this Tullece before or after eating the fruit? 'Cause if it's before, Goku only needs a Kaioken x3 to finish him off. If itls after fruit number 1, then Ozaru Tullece is about 3 million give-or-take, and Goku would need a ridiculously powerful Genki Dama to do any damage. If it's after the second fruit, then Goku stands no chance.

[Ash57]

Chiaotzu (post Kami) VS BoZ Goku , no Telekinesis / psychic powers
Regular Zarbon vs Ginyu Goku, no body change
Regular Zarbon vs Krillin (vs Ginyu goku)
Piccolo (pre kami) vs bulked up freeza on Namek
Piccolo (CG) vs Perfect cell (as he fought vegeta)
Yakon vs King Cold
Tao Pai Pai vs Saibaman ripoff from Movie 2
The 3 bio fighters, who fought & beat roshi (Movie 2) VS Raditz, all at once, strong tail
Turles (Moon ball, indestructible tail) vs KaioKen Goku (Namek)

1. According to Daizenshuu, Chiaotzu is twice as strong as Goku, so he one-shots before Goku can charge the Super Kamehameha.
2. Zarbon wins due to the fact that Ginyu don't know Goku's body at all.
3. I'm completely that Krillin takes this.
4. Are you serious? Piccolo one-shots him out of existence using MUCH LESS than 50% of his power. By my numbers, Piccolo using 33% of his power is already strong enough to beat both Namek Goku and Freeza. He rivals Future Trunks(Android Arc)
5. Piccolo was one of the 3 fighters capable of fighting the Cell Jrs toe to toe, which means that he one-shots Perfect Cell.
6. Manga-wise, Yakon one-shots him out of existence due to the fact that Base Goku(Buu Saga, who is multi-fold dimensions ahead of Freeza) was having trouble with him. If you use Super, then King Cold wins. I prefer the manga.
7. If these guys were capable of defeating Gohan, then Tao Pai Pai gets one-shotted.
8. Roshi was stronger in M2 than he was in the canon IMO. Raditz loses badly
9. Complete mismatch. Turles one-shots him in base.

[apex_pretador]

1. According to Daizenshuu, Chiaotzu is twice as strong as Goku, so he one-shots before Goku can charge the Super Kamehameha.

If we ae going by daizenshuu, then goku 23rd TB (910) is already stronger than chiatzu (673)

9. Complete mismatch. Turles one-shots him in base.

Turles one-shots a guy with POWER LEVEL 180,000 so easily that it is a mismatch?

Last Time I remembered, he was below 30,000 before eating fruit.

[dbgtFO]

1. According to Daizenshuu, Chiaotzu is twice as strong as Goku, so he one-shots before Goku can charge the Super Kamehameha.

If we ae going by daizenshuu, then goku 23rd TB (910) is already stronger than chiatzu (673)

The 910 level is not found in any guidebook. It comes from the Weekly Shonen Jump magazine around the time of Goku's battle with Vegeta.

[Bansho64]

King Kai vs Nappa

[dbgtFO]

King Kai vs Nappa

Kaio's power is much lower than Nappa's, but he can use magic to create stuff out of thin air and throw them at the brutish Saiyan, so Kaio obviously roflstomps Nappa.
...Or at least that's how it should be, if the characters had any idea about creative problem solving. Then again we have never seen Kaio face an opponent stronger than him, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[RandomGuy96]

Kaio should be able to use the Kaio-Ken for a little while (at least x2), it's just stated he never "mastered" it. With that in mind, and the official power levels placing him as only moderately weaker than Nappa, I'm giving the win to him.

[Khin]

First form Freeza vs SSJ Gotenks. Both RoF arc.

Gotenks dies a horrible death even as a Super Saiyan 3.If he is useful even against First Form Freeza,Roshi or anyone of them should've tell the kids to fuse again to fight Freeza until Goku and Vegeta arrives.

Goten and Trunks [Who probably have no idea that was only Freeza's first form] didn't even bother to fuse again when Gohan got his ass kicked.We see in the Boo Arc when Ultimate Gohan and about to fight Boo that Goten and Trunks tried to fuse again to help Gohan.The kids probably realized they can't do anything to help Gohan even if they fused.