"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cetra » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:35 am

I am more interested in the fact that Toriyama-san once more shows people he has no problem with other people writing stories for Dragon Ball.

It was one of the more interesting interviews in my opinion.
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Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:39 am

MajinMan wrote:So Future Trunks is probably going to return.....

I never really cared that much about Trunks as a character, so I don't really have much of an opinion on this. If it is him, I just hope that they try to fit it in without making it seem too fan-fictiony.
He was one of my favorite characters, untill i realised that he's pure fan-fiction and that he appears in only 1 arc. But still, it should be fun if he returns.

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Post by dbgtFO » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:43 am

alakazam^ wrote:Also, it's interesting no one talked about Toei following Toyotarou's manga.
Can you elaborate on this statement?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by MajinMan » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:52 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:
MajinMan wrote:So Future Trunks is probably going to return.....

I never really cared that much about Trunks as a character, so I don't really have much of an opinion on this. If it is him, I just hope that they try to fit it in without making it seem too fan-fictiony.
He was one of my favorite characters, untill i realised that he's pure fan-fiction and that he appears in only 1 arc. But still, it should be fun if he returns.
I don't know about him being "fan-fiction," but he is just another character that's only around for one arc. I loved his entrance all the way up to when he goes back to his time, but after he returns he just became a little too bland. He's TOO normal.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:04 am

MajinMan wrote:
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MajinMan wrote:So Future Trunks is probably going to return.....

I never really cared that much about Trunks as a character, so I don't really have much of an opinion on this. If it is him, I just hope that they try to fit it in without making it seem too fan-fictiony.
He was one of my favorite characters, untill i realised that he's pure fan-fiction and that he appears in only 1 arc. But still, it should be fun if he returns.
I don't know about him being "fan-fiction," but he is just another character that's only around for one arc. I loved his entrance all the way up to when he goes back to his time, but after he returns he just became a little too bland. He's TOO normal.
A big reason as to why Trunks is popular is because he basically created the model of the generic fanfiction character: the son of two characters who never had any romantic involvement, with a tragic past and is inexplicably powerful .

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SaiyaSith » Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:19 am

alakazam^ wrote:Like pointed out, there's no "white hair" anywhere and I'm pretty sure Toriyama means Freeza because it's in the context of coming up with the color blue for Fukkatsu no F. Besides, despite it making no sense he'd think about an enemy further down the line when he had to worry about the movie at hand, Toriyama doesn't plan that far ahead. He didn't even know what story to tell when they told him they wanted a second movie.
What do you mean? Toyotaro asks Toriyama why he chose blue hair, and Toriyama said he was going to make it white but he's saving it for later:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cetra » Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:47 am

"... figured I should save it for another occasion ..." does not say anything. It shows a possibility.
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Post by Alruneia » Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:52 am

LightBing wrote: Could be anything really, even Bulla.
I wish!! :lol:
Future Trunks coming back into the series would be very fanservice-y and could easily go really badly, but I'll put my faith in them and see how it goes anyway. It might not even be him, but another character entirely instead. There are options, though I can't really think of any... maybe Uub? My guess right now is Future (or Xeno) Trunks, though.

...can't they at least have Future Trunks meet baby/kid Bulla? It'd be cool considering that he's not even close to having a little sister in his own timeline, and she was referred to as "Trunks' little sister" (http://www.kanzenshuu.com/guides/manga/ ... png?8b837c)...

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Pannaliciour » Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:58 am

Reading all the comments and interviews, my conclusion is: nobody knows what the hell is going on.

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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:01 am

Pannaliciour wrote:Reading all the comments and interviews, my conclusion is: nobody knows what the hell is going on.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:05 am

Alruneia wrote:Future Trunks coming back into the series would be very fanservice-y and could easily go really badly, but I'll put my faith in them and see how it goes anyway. It might not even be him, but another character entirely instead. There are options, though I can't really think of any... maybe Uub?
The character is supposed to have been a popular character and I don't think that term has ever applied to Uub, given he hardly any notable moments, even in GT.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SaiyaSith » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:13 am

Cetra wrote:"... figured I should save it for another occasion ..." does not say anything. It shows a possibility.
I was referring to Alakazam's statement that there's "nothing about white hair" when that's exactly what they're talking about.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by alakazam^ » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:23 am

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alakazam^ wrote:Like pointed out, there's no "white hair" anywhere and I'm pretty sure Toriyama means Freeza because it's in the context of coming up with the color blue for Fukkatsu no F. Besides, despite it making no sense he'd think about an enemy further down the line when he had to worry about the movie at hand, Toriyama doesn't plan that far ahead. He didn't even know what story to tell when they told him they wanted a second movie.
What do you mean? Toyotaro asks Toriyama why he chose blue hair, and Toriyama said he was going to make it white but he's saving it for later:
No white-haired enemy was what I meant.
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alakazam^ wrote:Also, it's interesting no one talked about Toei following Toyotarou's manga.
Can you elaborate on this statement?
The interviewer said that, back in the day, Toei used the manga as reference for the anime and that it seems they are doing the same now with Toyotarou's manga, to which Toriyama says that's good because that way they won't mess up.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SaiyaSith » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:24 am

alakazam^ wrote: No white-haired enemy was what I meant.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cetra » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:26 am

I think Toyble is the luckiest guy in the history of Dragon Ball.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:29 am

alakazam^ wrote:The interviewer said that, back in the day, Toei used the manga as reference for the anime and that it seems they are doing the same now with Toyotarou's manga, to which Toriyama says that's good because that way they won't mess up.
Thank you!
Very interesting indeed.. it gives us a further hint, that the anime adaptation Toriyama was unhappy with, as stated in the Super History book, was indeed Super and not Kai last year. And it does seem like he's more appreciative of Toyotaro's work, than Toei's and of course Toyotaro is so humble about it, haha.
It's just great that this interview has confirmed some of my suspicions regarding Toriyama's outlook on the anime and Toyotaro's manga, too bad the anime is far ahead of the manga now, though!

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SaiyaSith » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:32 am

Cetra wrote:I think Toyble is the luckiest guy in the history of Dragon Ball.
He seems like a really nice and likable guy too. He deserves it after creating that fan manga which proved his talent. I really loved this interview. It definitely brought the hype!! :clap:

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:37 am

I will be okay with Future Trunks returning if it's not bad fan service and has a original story. So no more cyborgs, Cell, Buu or Towa & Mira.
Cetra wrote:I guess this interview should ultimately show Toriyama-san has no problem with other people writing plot for Dragon Ball.

Seeing how Toyble had his own post-GT story he maybe is even interested in writing something about that as well. But we will see.
I found his AF manga to be awful. It has good art and the Dragon world was cool, but everything else is crap in my opinion. Xicor himself is very dull since he has almost no personality and the idea of the West Kaioshin being the mother of Freeza seems stupid. I think fans would hate his AF if it was a real thing.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Cetra » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:40 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:
I found his AF manga to be awful. It has good art and the Dragon world was cool, but everything else is crap in my opinion. Xicor himself is very dull since he has almost no personality and the idea of the West Kaioshin being the mother of Freeza seems stupid. I think fans would hate his AF if it was a real thing.
I am not talking about the writing of his post-GT manga but the overall position of Toyble as he multiple times in his manga showed no problem to include things that fans rant about all the time just because they seem inconsistent and instead was able to write or bring in what he wanted. And I know a very popular Western doujinshi about Dragon Ball that really only has good art but is so full of itself - totally unjustified.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SaiyaSith » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:43 am

Hellspawn28 wrote: I found his AF manga to be awful. It has good art and the Dragon world was cool, but everything else is crap in my opinion. Xicor himself is very dull since he has almost no personality and the idea of the West Kaioshin being the mother of Freeza seems stupid. I think fans would hate his AF if it was a real thing.
Yeah, as long as he's good at replicating Toriyama's style, it's all that matters. Also I'm sure he's grown a lot over the last decade and working with Toriyama.

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