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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Noah » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:27 pm

Protege wrote:Hopefully we get too see more universe busting from Goku or atleast a few galaxies shown being vaporized by his kamehameha.
How that would be a good thing? Is not like Goku is massive killer you know...
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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Michelle91 » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:53 pm

Protege wrote:Hopefully we get too see more universe busting from Goku or atleast a few galaxies shown being vaporized by his kamehameha.
No more fan wank garbage please. Goku's fight with Beerus fight like it was written by a 13 year old with their punches destroying planets from shockwaves.
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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Captain Strawberry » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:32 pm

Monaka is probably gonna get beaten around for a bit so it makes it look like Monaka is weak but once Monaka gets angry somehow, he starts spanking Hit like no contest.
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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Cipher » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:34 pm

Could honestly go either way. If Goku wins, something extremely unexpected is going to happen to throw a little turmoil into the aftermath of the tournament.

In a way, Goku losing seems almost too predictable for Toriyama, but--whatever. The path forward has so many possibilities at this point. I honestly have no idea what to expect from Monaka, Hit's motivations, Champa's original purpose for the Super Dragon Balls, or the location of the final one.

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:39 pm

Cipher wrote:Could honestly go either way. If Goku wins, something extremely unexpected is going to happen to throw a little turmoil into the aftermath of the tournament.

In a way, Goku losing seems almost too predictable for Toriyama, but--whatever. The path forward has so many possibilities at this point. I honestly have no idea what to expect from Monaka, Hit's motivations, Champa's original purpose for the Super Dragon Balls, or the location of the final one.
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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Cipher » Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:40 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Plot twist: The last Super Dragonball is one of Monaka's nipples
I would accept this.

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Khin » Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:22 am

I'm betting Vegeta will get completely dominated by Hit and Goku will discover Hit's weakness causing them to fight evenly and wins which i will really hate.

I'm tired of Vegeta being the punching bag.The best case scenario will be like the other guy said,Hit wrecking both Goku and Vegeta and Monaka steps in and destroys him.

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by emi_b7 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:02 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: I'm tired of Vegeta being the punching bag.The best case scenario will be like the other guy said,Hit wrecking both Goku and Vegeta and Monaka steps in and destroys him.
How is Vegeta the punching bag? He has been pure win in Super, even in BOG arc where he barely did anything he came out looking badass (his rage, being the only one who could keep up with the gods fight). He made Freeza his punching bag. He won 3 fights in a row.
Sometimes I wonder if DB fans even like the series or just a character. If it was up to the fans there wouldn't even be a story, just every character having a badass fight one after another because, apparently, fighting (and winning) is the only thing that defines a character, character development be damned.
This last paragraph wasn't directed at you btw, just a mini rant because of what I read after every episode/chapter, whether it's about Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan or anyone else.

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Khin » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:11 am

emi_b7 wrote:How is Vegeta the punching bag? He has been pure win in Super, even in BOG arc where he barely did anything he came out looking badass (his rage, being the only one who could keep up with the gods fight). He made Freeza his punching bag. He won 3 fights in a row.
Sometimes I wonder if DB fans even like the series or just a character. If it was up to the fans there wouldn't even be a story, just every character having a badass fight one after another because, apparently, fighting (and winning) is the only thing that defines a character, character development be damned.
This last paragraph wasn't directed at you btw, just a mini rant because of what I read after every episode/chapter, whether it's about Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan or anyone else.
Vegeta's track record for the past arcs.
  • Got absolutely destroyed by suppressed Perfect Cell.
  • Barely keeps up with a Cell Junior.
  • Got curbstomped by Super Perfect Cell.
  • Got ragdolled by Innocent Boo.
  • Becomes a punching bag for Pure Boo to have Goku store enough ki in his SSj3.
  • Becomes a punching bag for Pure Boo again to have enough time to store energy for Genki Dama.
  • Got finger flicked by Beerus.
His other fights are barely fights.Freeza was already tired when he fought him,Frost was way weaker than him and so is Cabba.The only previous fights where you can really call a fight was against Goku and Magetta.Goku have Super Saiyan 3 when he fought him,he could turn into SSj Blue and win against Magetta easily.

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Kuririn Fan » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:36 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
emi_b7 wrote:How is Vegeta the punching bag? He has been pure win in Super, even in BOG arc where he barely did anything he came out looking badass (his rage, being the only one who could keep up with the gods fight). He made Freeza his punching bag. He won 3 fights in a row.
Sometimes I wonder if DB fans even like the series or just a character. If it was up to the fans there wouldn't even be a story, just every character having a badass fight one after another because, apparently, fighting (and winning) is the only thing that defines a character, character development be damned.
This last paragraph wasn't directed at you btw, just a mini rant because of what I read after every episode/chapter, whether it's about Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan or anyone else.
Vegeta's track record for the past arcs.
  • Got absolutely destroyed by suppressed Perfect Cell.
  • Barely keeps up with a Cell Junior.
  • Got curbstomped by Super Perfect Cell.
  • Got ragdolled by Innocent Boo.
  • Becomes a punching bag for Pure Boo to have Goku store enough ki in his SSj3.
  • Becomes a punching bag for Pure Boo again to have enough time to store energy for Genki Dama.
  • Got finger flicked by Beerus.
His other fights are barely fights.Freeza was already tired when he fought him,Frost was way weaker than him and so is Cabba.The only previous fights where you can really call a fight was against Goku and Magetta.Goku have Super Saiyan 3 when he fought him,he could turn into SSj Blue and win against Magetta easily.
What about Goku & co kicking his ass?
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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by emi_b7 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:37 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote: Vegeta's track record for the past arcs.
Got absolutely destroyed by suppressed Perfect Cell.
Yeah, after destroying his Semi Perfect Form. What did you expect, the bad guy of the arc getting his ass kicked right after he achieves his final form?
Barely keeps up with a Cell Junior.
Well yeah, I'm not a fan of the Cell Juniors part of the Cell games, I think Vegeta, Trunks and Picolo should have done better there instead of Gohan killing all of them.
Got curbstomped by Super Perfect Cell.
Of course he did, the guy was way stronger than him, it wouldn't make sense if he didn't. Also, he showed he cared for Trunks there + he helped Gohan kill the Cell.
Got ragdolled by Innocent Boo.
That fight ended with one of Vegeta's greatest moments
Becomes a punching bag for Pure Boo to have Goku store enough ki in his SSj3.
Becomes a punching bag for Pure Boo again to have enough time to store energy for Genki Dama.
Again, this part had a lot of character development for Vegeta, great moment for him IMO
Got finger flicked by Beerus.
Everybody did, and Vegeta performed better than everybody else against him, even better than Goku before he became a god.

Look, I know Vegeta has been in the "show how strong the new bad guy is" role a lot but everybody has been there, even Goku but Vegeta has won as many fights as he has lost and, even when he loses, he gets good character development or cool moments. Is winning the only important thing? He isn't the main character (well, in Super I guess he kinda is) so it's normal that he never kills the main bad guy, but he wins a lot of fights against other, minor bad guys. I think Vegeta has been great in Super, character progression wise, and he has had good moments and fights. I don't get this "he shouldn't get his ass kicked", as if Vegeta is owed something, especially when we don't even know where the plot will go from here on.
I would agree that, more than other characters, Vegeta's fights tend to be really one sided, either in his favor or against him.

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Khin » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:17 am

emi_b7 wrote:[A respond to my post]
The point here is that Vegeta have been always the guy who will get destroyed so hard.Most of the time where he wins was just against irrelevant fodders like Kewi,Pui-Pui etc.With the next episode,it looks like Vegeta will get destroyed again.And i'm just so tired of that.Yes,Goku also get stomped sometimes,but in the end,he was able to redeem himself.

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Protege » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:48 am

Noah wrote: How that would be a good thing? Is not like Goku is massive killer you know...
Well its not like hes completely good either. The more stronger the enemy is, the more excited he becomes to meet them. Because Goku loves power and thats the core of evil.

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Protege » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:54 am

Hellspawn28 wrote: No more fan wank garbage please. Goku's fight with Beerus fight like it was written by a 13 year old with their punches destroying planets from shockwaves.
Dont be salty lel. SSJ2 was already at solar system + level, while Goku SSJ3 that got pwned by beerus finger would have been already at galaxy buster level. So its perfectly makes sense why god goku being able to stand against beerus would be at a universal level. I just want to see more feats of goku universe busting this time and hopefully screw attack does superman prime one million vs god goku(DBS feats) death battle 3 XDDDDDDDDD

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by pacz360 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:22 am

Protege wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote: No more fan wank garbage please. Goku's fight with Beerus fight like it was written by a 13 year old with their punches destroying planets from shockwaves.
Dont be salty lel. SSJ2 was already at solar system + level, while Goku SSJ3 that got pwned by beerus finger would have been already at galaxy buster level. So its perfectly makes sense why god goku being able to stand against beerus would be at a universal level. I just want to see more feats of goku universe busting this time and hopefully screw attack does superman prime one million vs god goku(DBS feats) death battle 3 XDDDDDDDDD
dude no offense but theres a goku vs supes thread for that in one of the sections put it there also on topic monaka should interrupt hit and goku's battle to show why beerus had a tough time.

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by apex_pretador » Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:41 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
emi_b7 wrote:How is Vegeta the punching bag? He has been pure win in Super, even in BOG arc where he barely did anything he came out looking badass (his rage, being the only one who could keep up with the gods fight). He made Freeza his punching bag. He won 3 fights in a row.
Sometimes I wonder if DB fans even like the series or just a character. If it was up to the fans there wouldn't even be a story, just every character having a badass fight one after another because, apparently, fighting (and winning) is the only thing that defines a character, character development be damned.
This last paragraph wasn't directed at you btw, just a mini rant because of what I read after every episode/chapter, whether it's about Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan or anyone else.
Vegeta's track record for the past arcs.
  • Got absolutely destroyed by suppressed Perfect Cell.
  • Barely keeps up with a Cell Junior.
  • Got curbstomped by Super Perfect Cell.
  • Got ragdolled by Innocent Boo.
  • Becomes a punching bag for Pure Boo to have Goku store enough ki in his SSj3.
  • Becomes a punching bag for Pure Boo again to have enough time to store energy for Genki Dama.
  • Got finger flicked by Beerus.
His other fights are barely fights.Freeza was already tired when he fought him,Frost was way weaker than him and so is Cabba.The only previous fights where you can really call a fight was against Goku and Magetta.Goku have Super Saiyan 3 when he fought him,he could turn into SSj Blue and win against Magetta easily.
are you sure you are not confusing vegeta with another super saiyan?
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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Overlord78 » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:35 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
emi_b7 wrote:How is Vegeta the punching bag? He has been pure win in Super, even in BOG arc where he barely did anything he came out looking badass (his rage, being the only one who could keep up with the gods fight). He made Freeza his punching bag. He won 3 fights in a row.
Sometimes I wonder if DB fans even like the series or just a character. If it was up to the fans there wouldn't even be a story, just every character having a badass fight one after another because, apparently, fighting (and winning) is the only thing that defines a character, character development be damned.
This last paragraph wasn't directed at you btw, just a mini rant because of what I read after every episode/chapter, whether it's about Vegeta, Piccolo, Gohan or anyone else.
Vegeta's track record for the past arcs.
  • Got absolutely destroyed by suppressed Perfect Cell.
  • Barely keeps up with a Cell Junior.
  • Got curbstomped by Super Perfect Cell.
  • Got ragdolled by Innocent Boo.
  • Becomes a punching bag for Pure Boo to have Goku store enough ki in his SSj3.
  • Becomes a punching bag for Pure Boo again to have enough time to store energy for Genki Dama.
  • Got finger flicked by Beerus.
His other fights are barely fights.Freeza was already tired when he fought him,Frost was way weaker than him and so is Cabba.The only previous fights where you can really call a fight was against Goku and Magetta.Goku have Super Saiyan 3 when he fought him,he could turn into SSj Blue and win against Magetta easily.
"Got finger flicked by Beerus". Everyone got destroyed by him until Goku went into his god form so I wouldn't count that.

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by Khin » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:30 am

Overlord78 wrote:"Got finger flicked by Beerus". Everyone got destroyed by him until Goku went into his god form so I wouldn't count that.
That's the point.Goku was able to redeem himself while Vegeta wasn't.

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:02 pm

The Hit vs Goku match could be a draw.

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Re: Are you expecting Goku to be curbstomped?

Post by pacz360 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:27 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:The Hit vs Goku match could be a draw.
Dude the episode titles pretty much confirmed u7 winning.

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