Why Is Everyone So Skinny In 'Super'?

[PrinceVegetto]

My question is why are all the characters so skinny in DB Super? Is it because of Toriyama designing everyone this way? When watching DB Heroes cutscenes the Saiyans at the very least look like their old self and you can clearly see their muscles. In 'Super' that isn't the case...

[dbgtFO]

Yes, it comes from Toriyama's designs for the characters. He now draws his characters in a more cartoonish and skinnier style like his work prior to Dragon Ball. This was also prevalent in the Buu Arc, when the characters had more gag scenes and so got skinny and more cartoonish designs during certain moments.

[Vijay]

Frankly, I dont buy the "Toriyama's lean style, throwback to olden days bla bla bla"

If anything, its cheaper. Easier. And lazier way of designing.

I mean, just compare man! Those highly detailed & visually impressive musculature for 100% Frieza, ASSJ Veggie, Semi/Perfect Cell, SSJ2 Goku/Veggie etc

Even skinny/lankey characters as Grey Boo & Super Boo have distinct anatomical appearance.

With Super, dats laughable.

@dbgtFO
While I agree with your point on how characters in gag scenes at tail end of Boo Era had such skinny appearance (Gotenks messing with Boo, Goku & Veggie inside Boo's body etc), the key segmemts involving "epicness" still forced AT to draw his characters in excruciating details.

Say, during Goku & Veggie's epic SSJ2 rematch. Or Goku vs Kid Boo.

[Soppa Saia People]

Say, during Goku & Veggie's epic SSJ2 rematch.

Toriyama didn't draw that fight, that's almost all Toei.
As for the topic, I much prefer the rounder style of early Dragon Ball, it looks more lively. Nowadays everyone looks deflated.
(Also technically 700th post )

[SaiyaSith]

Well Gohan stopped training so that could be a reason.

[emi_b7]

The only one that bothers me is Gohan, but maybe it's because of that green outfit. I think he looked better in BOG and that scene where he had the Great Sayaman outfit.
Krillin also looks bad to me because he looks like a dwarf more than ever before, but his hair and clothes are good.
I don't have a problem with other characters.

[Vijay]

Say, during Goku & Veggie's epic SSJ2 rematch.

Toriyama didn't draw that fight, that's almost all Toei.
As for the topic, I much prefer the rounder style of early Dragon Ball, it looks more lively. Nowadays everyone looks deflated.
(Also technically 700th post )

What? Are you saying Goku vs Majin Vegeta never took place in the manga at all? TOEI merely extended, prolonged the short & intense fight those 2 fighter engaged in.

Somewhat, I like inflated characters like Broly, Bojack, 2nd Form Frieza etc cuz it gives them a much impsing look, a striking contrast to their timid/polite base states.

[Kuririn Fan]

Say, during Goku & Veggie's epic SSJ2 rematch.

Toriyama didn't draw that fight, that's almost all Toei.
As for the topic, I much prefer the rounder style of early Dragon Ball, it looks more lively. Nowadays everyone looks deflated.
(Also technically 700th post )

What? Are you saying Goku vs Majin Vegeta never took place in the manga at all? TOEI merely extended, prolonged the short & intense fight those 2 fighter engaged in.

Somewhat, I like inflated characters like Broly, Bojack, 2nd Form Frieza etc cuz it gives them a much impsing look, a striking contrast to their timid/polite base states.

The ENTIRE Goku v Vegeta fight in the manga - 5 pages

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[Vijay]

@ Kuririn fan

No of pages doesnt dictate the significance of a fight in my humble opinion. Gohan vs Cell was LOOONG & spanned across many chapters in the manga when it was ultimately pitiful one-sided beatdown. First Gohan. Then Cell. Then Gohan again. I wouldnt call that a fight at all.

Like-wise, Goku vs Oob was ONLY 2-3 pages, but its significance was key as

1. Oob's learning adaptation & Kiai which blew Goku away is strong indication that he was after all Kid Boo's reincarnation

2. Goku has fought beings across stars & galaxies but this particular kid's latent potential stirred his interest to become his Sensei. Something which adds great value to both Goku & Oob as characters

3. Toriyama's long theorized & semi-executed Next Gen Fighters concept in Boo Qrc FINALLY was implemented by EoZ & Goku vs Oob was the main reason behind it

Now as you can see, I can list many thousand pages/chapters long fights from Bleach (Soul Society Arv), Naruto (War Arc), HXH (Chimera Ant Arc) with varying degree of significance

Goku vs Majin Vegeta is one such fight that actually felt as one of the series peak & while its execution may leaves a lot to be desired, its mostly a statisfying re-visit to Iconic Saiyan Prince/low-class fighter rivalry

[Ajay]

It's just generally how Yamamuro's designs are these days. I don't know if it's because he's trying to incorporate Toriyama's slimmer 2016 designs, or whether it's just how he likes to draw the characters these days. But yeah, that's the difference, really. It's been this way since Battle of Gods.

Battle of Gods - Vegeta
Resurrection 'F' - Vegeta

Vegeta's Z Designs - Part 1 // Part 2

The incredibly skinny characters you may have seen during the Golden Freeza arc were mostly down to poor animators, or animators who weren't interested in adhering to character designs.

[Kuririn Fan]

@ Kuririn fan

No of pages doesnt dictate the significance of a fight in my humble opinion. Gohan vs Cell was LOOONG & spanned across many chapters in the manga when it was ultimately pitiful one-sided beatdown. First Gohan. Then Cell. Then Gohan again. I wouldnt call that a fight at all.

I didn't say it was insignificant due to number of pages, i just find it interesting that long awaited Goku v Veggie fight was 5 pages long.
And Gohan vs Cell had nice twist at the end with Super Perfect Cell and wounded Gohan, it wasn't one sided.
My 2 cents

[coola]

Personally, except for SSJ God Goku, i dont really find them to be that skinny.

[ekrolo2]

It's a conspiracy by both Toriyama and Toei to make Dragon Ball more appealing to the One Piece crowd by making everyone resemble Luffy more.

[Bansho64]

It's just generally how Yamamuro's designs are these days. I don't know if it's because he's trying to incorporate Toriyama's slimmer 2016 designs, or whether it's just how he likes to draw the characters these days. But yeah, that's the difference, really. It's been this way since Battle of Gods.

Battle of Gods - Vegeta
Resurrection 'F' - Vegeta

Vegeta's Z Designs - Part 1 // Part 2

The incredibly skinny characters you may have seen during the Golden Freeza arc were mostly down to poor animators, or animators who weren't interested in adhering to character designs.

The difference really does show in the muscles.

[Lord Beerus]

It's a conspiracy by both Toriyama and Toei to make Dragon Ball more appealing to the One Piece crowd by making everyone resemble Luffy more.

Well, Toriyama does really like One Piece...

[DonAce]

It's modern Toriyama art. You'll see this in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman and most of his modern stuff. It's what he does now, and it's not "Cheaper" that's absurd. Do you think they charge by sheer mass of their bodies? In Dragon Ball Minus infant Goku looks horrendously lanky and skinny. I much prefer his earlier round art style, and I am not a fan of the skinniness myself, but hey, it's modern Toriyama.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I never much liked the ridiculously overly-buff designs anyway.

[DBZAOTA482]

They all got anorexia.