"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:20 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:People are just tired of Goku and Vegeta.They need someone other than them to have an important fight.I mean Piccolo was told to fuck off,Boo was kicked out,if Goku will win against Hit,then the U6 team is all defeated by Goku and Vegeta.They could have Monana,but once he was revealed to be an amateur,almost all hope was gone.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Noah » Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:38 pm

I think giving Goku and Vegeta huge power-ups that make they way ahead Gohan and the others was not a good thing at all, it pretty much dispenses these characters from the plot.

I mean, what is the use of Goten and Trunks now? They're useless, so useless that they didn't even care to make them age!

People argue that now we have a bunch of new characters, but will the series let them show more about themselves and not only Goku and Vegeta?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by LightBing » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:46 pm

I actually wouldn't mind if Goku died because of the Kaioken. We know how much Mr.Toriyama likes to give Goku slap's on the wrist. Goku would also stay dead for a while, to show up at the mid/end stretch of the following arc. Copying the pattern ever since the Raditz fight.
It would also keep Goku weaker than Beerus definitely, since the Kaioken would be unusable.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ZombieVito » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:51 pm

LightBing wrote:I actually wouldn't mind if Goku died because of the Kaioken. We know how much Mr.Toriyama likes to give Goku slap's on the wrist. Goku would also stay dead for a while, to show up at the mid/end stretch of the following arc. Copying the pattern ever since the Raditz fight.
It would also keep Goku weaker than Beerus definitely, since the Kaioken would be unusable.
This is actually not a bad idea. Would give other characters a chance to shine.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SansrivaaL » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:56 am

I want Goku to die as well, since dying in DB doesnt exactly mean you're out of the picture, he was dead on the Boo arc and kept on appearing here and now even had major fights.
Being dead grants Goku some advantages like less stamina zaps when he transforms.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Araki » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:04 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:I just had a thought that the leaked summary for episode 40 does not really line up with what is going to happen.
We don't know that. The summary just avoids mentioning Goku vs Hit, as they don't spoil it all.
Summaries often cover different parts of an episode, and Champa trying to kill his team members could easily happen in the 2nd half or the last 5 minutes.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Bullza » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:06 am

Does he really need to die for the third time? Especially when you just know he'll come back anyway and could eventually be killed a fourth time.

If they're gonna have him lose it better be more creative that that.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:45 am

I want to see Goku win because Goku has not won a tournament since the 23rd Tenkachi Budokai and has not won a real match since the Namek Saga in my opinion.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by kinisking » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:15 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I want to see Goku win because Goku has not won a tournament since the 23rd Tenkachi Budokai and has not won a real match since the Namek Saga in my opinion.
Botomo doesnt count?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Noah » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:26 pm

He said a real match.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Alee9977 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:27 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I want to see Goku win because Goku has not won a tournament since the 23rd Tenkachi Budokai and has not won a real match since the Namek Saga in my opinion.
I really want U7 to lose :D :D

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Khin » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:29 pm

Noah wrote:He said a real match.
So Botamo vs. Goku is a fake match ?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by kinisking » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:33 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
Noah wrote:He said a real match.
So Botamo vs. Goku is a fake match ?
lol if only major fights count then i guess everyone else in the series besides for Gohan never won a fight.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Kakarotto92 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:30 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I want to see Goku win because Goku has not won a tournament since the 23rd Tenkachi Budokai and has not won a real match since the Namek Saga in my opinion.
Not sure what you mean by "real match" but he did defeat Yakon all by himself.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by sintzu » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:29 am

Kakarotto92 wrote:
Not sure what you mean by "real match" but he did defeat Yakon all by himself.
Yakon was a small nobody.

He's talking about main villains like Vegeta, Freeza, Cell, Buu, Beerus & Golden Freeza.

Out of those 6 he only defeated Freeza on Namek which was a very long time ago compared to where we are now.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SaiyanZ » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:44 pm

I'm pretty sure Hellspawn means a competitive match. Yakon and Botamo weren't really opponents who pushed Goku to extremes like how Ginyu, Freeza, Hit etc. were/are doing. They were quick work for Goku after he thought about it a little. I'm with Hellspawn, I want Goku to win against Hit now since losing a 3rd time after Beerus and Freeza would just feel predictable at this point. I want Vegeta to win that kind of match in the future too, Piccolo as well.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:12 pm

SaiyanZ wrote:I'm pretty sure Hellspawn means a competitive match. Yakon and Botamo weren't really opponents who pushed Goku to extremes like how Ginyu, Freeza, Hit etc. were/are doing. They were quick work for Goku after he thought about it a little. I'm with Hellspawn, I want Goku to win against Hit now since losing a 3rd time after Beerus and Freeza would just feel predictable at this point. I want Vegeta to win that kind of match in the future too, Piccolo as well.
I want Goku to lose I prefer the trend of him losing it makes everything less predictable I think. Hit who is not even at full power survives a Super Saiyan blue Kaioken x10 kamehameha deserves to win.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sonicjamareiz » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:30 pm

I just realized that Hit said Vegeta was the only one to survive his attacks does that mean Hit killed Frost? :shock:
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Xeztin » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:19 pm

That's a good question but I don't think he attacked him, just sort of knocked him out.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:28 pm

Sonicjamareiz wrote:I just realized that Hit said Vegeta was the only one to survive his attacks does that mean Hit killed Frost? :shock:
No. Frost is still alive. You can see him on the bench with the rest of U6 fighters after Hit attacks him.

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