Super is not so bad like someone says

[VegettoEX]

Sounds like something RhymeStyle would say. That guy has basically NEVER criticized the series at all.

There's no need to criticize the opinions of random people who aren't part of the conversation. You can bring it up with them directly if you feel that strongly about their opinions.

[TekTheNinja]

Sounds like something RhymeStyle would say. That guy has basically NEVER criticized the series at all.

There's no need to criticize the opinions of random people who aren't part of the conversation. You can bring it up with them directly if you feel that strongly about their opinions.

Oh no, I said something bad about a youtuber! THE HUMANITY!!!

Sigh... Everything I say seems to offend you Mike. Makes me wonder why I stay on this site.

Whatever. It's not like I planned on saying anything else about him anyway. You just basically turned nothing into something.

[VegettoEX]

I have no idea who you are or what you've had commented at you before, but if there's a trend, perhaps that says something.

It just seems... really worthless to take one person's comments and turn it around and basically say "oh man that shit sure sounds like _____". OK, well, they're not here and they're not part of the conversation. So what? If you're not really adding anything, what's the point?

[TekTheNinja]

I have no idea who you are or what you've had commented at you before, but if there's a trend, perhaps that says something.

It just seems... really worthless to take one person's comments and turn it around and basically say "oh man that shit sure sounds like _____". OK, well, they're not here and they're not part of the conversation. So what? If you're not really adding anything, what's the point?

I'll repeat:

You just basically turned nothing into something.

I don't want to continue this conversation either, so let's just drop it.

[Sonicjamareiz]

Dragon Ball Super is a perfect series literally flawless episodes 33-40 are absolutely amazing man I love Super such perfection.

[iop890]

They've diminished the status the Namekians had in the universe by establishing that the dragon balls were not their original creations. .

I love that idea to be honest. It gives more history on the Dragon Balls and on where they came from. Did people think the Nameks created them on their own? I always believe that they got the idea from someone or something.

Don't get me wrong. I like the idea of expanding the lore of the dragon balls, such as exploring the source that allowed Namekian to create them, or the origins of the Namekians themselves.

Them creating them from shards of a planet sized dragon ball that just happened to be there completely strips them of their association with these artifacts in the first place.

I sort of agree.

It also doesn't make much sense. What were the earth Dragon Balls made from? Did the Nameless Namekian have extra SDB shards in his spaceship for some reason? How many more extra shards are there?

[Kuririn Fan]

Dragon Ball Super is fucking awesome!
I love the lore, i love everything, can't wait to see where our God Toriyama takes us next!

Sounds like something RhymeStyle would say. That guy has basically NEVER criticized the series at all.

We need more positive energy, that's why i said it like that.

[sintzu]

Dragon Ball Super is a perfect series literally flawless episodes 33-40 are absolutely amazing man I love Super such perfection.

Don't forget about ep27, it's a Vegeta episode that has him beating a main villain, a modern classic.

[Kuririn Fan]

Dragon Ball Super is a perfect series literally flawless episodes 33-40 are absolutely amazing man I love Super such perfection.

Don't forget about ep27, it's a Vegeta episode that has him beating a main villain, a modern classic.

Weakened main villain that had stamina issues...

[sintzu]

Dragon Ball Super is a perfect series literally flawless episodes 33-40 are absolutely amazing man I love Super such perfection.

Don't forget about ep27, it's a Vegeta episode that has him beating a main villain, a modern classic.

Weakened main villain that had stamina issues...

We need more positive energy.

[DBZAOTA482]

It's not as bad... in fact, it's much worse.

I can't take another playground joke

[Sonicjamareiz]

It's not as bad... in fact, it's much worse...

...at ceasing to amaze the viewers

[precita]

Its an average series with a few brief glimpses of potential greatness here and there that it might not reach consistently.

Its just a shame that the first new series in 18 years didn't have much better care put into it from the start.

[sintzu]

Its just a shame that the first new series in 18 years didn't have much better care put into it from the start.

That's due to it coming out at the wrong time.

Every year there are less and less long running anime which is due to production costs and time so the majority of new shows are seasonal but for some reason Toei decided to have it be an on going which is currently dying out and for obvious reasons.

Back during the manga's publication, Toriyama always had an editor working with him and making sure that his stories reached their full potential with the Cell arc being the greatest example of this, however he doesn't have that now so his current stories aren't being fully realized.

Don't get me wrong, Toriyama definitely deserves to be able to do what he wants cause it's thanks to him that we have this great franchise but sometimes it's best to have someone to pull you back or push you foreword and toriyama is someone who needs to be pushed a bit to get his absolute best.

[Faisal Shourov]

Its an average series with a few brief glimpses of potential greatness here and there that it might not reach consistently.

Its just a shame that the first new series in 18 years didn't have much better care put into it from the start.

If DBZ was released in 2015 instead of 1989, it would be average too. Long running shonen are considered trash nowadays, just look and Naruto Shippuden, Fairy Tail and Bleach

[RedRibbonSoldier#42]

If DBZ was released in 2015 instead of 1989, it would be average too. Long running shonen are considered trash nowadays, just look and Naruto Shippuden, Fairy Tail and Bleach

Long running series like Gintama, JoJo and Hunter x Hunter are still going and are still awesome

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Dragon Ball Super is fucking awesome!
I love the lore, i love everything, can't wait to see where our God Toriyama takes us next!

Sounds like something RhymeStyle would say. That guy has basically NEVER criticized the series at all.

Rhymestyle has criticized GT before.

I see Super much the same way Rhymestyle does, it's not a great written series, but its a fun ride if you switch your brain off.

[Draconic]

Its an average series with a few brief glimpses of potential greatness here and there that it might not reach consistently.

Its just a shame that the first new series in 18 years didn't have much better care put into it from the start.

This sums up my thoughts too. I am defending the show because I do love it and don't think it's bad by any means, but I also wouldn't rate it as much more than average. There are some great moments in it which outweighs the bad ones, imo, but the bad ones are happening too often which hold the show back a lot.

[Lord Frieza]

As a whole I have really enjoyed Super from the start till know. the only thing I've ever held against it were its bad animation moments early on and the rushed ending of the Resurrection of F arc.

I love the concept of the Super Dragon Ball and their history. I really don see why that cheapens the others sets, the black star ones in GT are effectively the original ones of earth yet I've never heard anyone say they cheapen the normal set. Also I dont understand they people want the wishs to have some kind of price when none of the others do. It made sense with the black star balls because they were inherently corrupt. As far as official DB goes the other sets have no price save finding them and in the case or the Namekian ones you did have to speak namek and pass tests to get them properly.

The Super Dragon Balls are scattered between two universe and so large that most beings could never hope to gather them even if they could travel between U6 and U7. Not only that but also you have to speak the language of the god to make them work. How much harder to use do people want them to be. Also why would these things have flaws and prices if their created by gods who want them to be used?

[dbzfan7]

The Super Dragon Balls are scattered between two universe and so large that most beings could never hope to gather them even if they could travel between U6 and U7. Not only that but also you have to speak the language of the god to make them work. How much harder to use do people want them to be. Also why would these things have flaws and prices if their created by gods who want them to be used?

That's actually what I really like, and really hate about them. I like in a sense that they're extremely hard to obtain, and that not everyone can simply gather them up. Means they can't be used or counted on as easily. On the other hand, it kinda ruins some of the danger the original balls had. Anyone could get their hands on them, and they could spell trouble in the wrong hands. With Bulma's radar, they now feel like another convenient set to use for the gods. So now it kinda feels like the dragon ball set to be used by the gods. I like and dislike that.