Earth is far different between DB and DBZ

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Earth is far different between DB and DBZ

Post by takotako » Mon May 02, 2016 9:02 pm

One or two years ago, a friend convinced me that we should get together and watch Dragon Ball from beginning to end. At the time, I thought of DBZ as a show I had seen when I was a lot younger. It was good, but I was a bit hesitant to watch it again. My thoughts on the series changed a lot after seeing the early episodes of Dragon Ball.

What really stood out for me was how vibrant and full of life the world was. It was based on modern day Japan (at the time - the eighties) crossed with the world of Chinese folk tales with bits of sci-fi thrown in for good measure. This is apparent in the very first chapter of Dragon Ball: A boy with a tail living on his own in the wilderness destroys a girl's subcompact sedan, forcing her to using a Capsule motorcycle she had packed away in her purse.

I like to look out for little things in the background. I've always had the idea that events happening on the sidelines were just as important as the main story. It shows how much care the author put into the world and it shows the reader or viewer that there is more to the world than just what the story happens to be focused on. Backgrond details are things people can easily overlook, but can subconsciously give the reader the idea that the world is big and full of life - a world where everyone and everything has its own story and you're only being shown one small part of it.
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Eventually, Namek happened. Up to this point, Goku and his friends have traveled the world from deserts to snowy mountains and from the depths of the ocean to the highest point in the sky. On Namek, there was a lot of opportunity to develop a completely new world and to depict Namekian towns and their way of life. Near the beginning, the story looked like it would be a throwback to the series's roots in which Bulma, Gohan and Kuririn would have a new adventure going around world to track down the Dragon Balls. Unfortunately, most of what we saw were vast fields and mere glimpses of villages.

Something changed when they returned to Earth. The world lost its depth. There were now only large generic cities, fields or wastelands. The things that people in the world saw as commonplace were now strange and unusual. This can be seen just by looking at the contestants chosen for tournaments. Early on those who competed were creatures such as Man-Wolf, Giran (a dragon) and Chiaotzu (look it up). They competed among humans that had unique abilities and martial arts skills. From this point onwards, contestants consisted entirely of humans which, while skilled fighters in their own right, had very little interesting about them other than their personalities. It's most apparent during the Cell Games, where all the serious contestants are seen as strange by audiences around the world watching it live on television.

The biggest thing I took away when watching the whole series is how the world became less and less interesting over time. When I'm asked why I prefer Dragon Ball over Z which is never, it's because I'm not as much a fan of the action as I am of the adventure that it began with.
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Re: Earth is far different between DB and DBZ

Post by EmmaWinters » Mon May 02, 2016 9:13 pm

takotako wrote:Something changed when they returned to Earth. The world lost its depth. There were now only large generic cities, fields or wastelands.
Plenty of the wonder is gone as well. Modern day DB-Earth feels like it's run out of surprises — no more pterodactyls, dolphins or mermaids. As you point out, the once-commonplace animal people are nowhere to be found.
takotako wrote:Early on those who competed were creatures such as Man-Wolf, Giran (a dragon) and Chiaotzu (look it up). In later tournaments, contestants consisted entirely of humans.
At least we had Captain Chicken.

In all seriousness, I appreciate Toriyama's attempt at shaking things up when it came to designing Universe 6's team. While Magetta was interesting enough, it's a shame that Botamo was essentially shelved; he was arguably the most "unique" competitor in that arc. Hit isn't anything special design-wise but his ability was an interesting twist on things, I suppose.

The adventure & wonder of Dragon Ball crossed with the action of Dragon Ball Z is probably what everyone wanted Dragon Ball GT to be. Hopefully as the franchise continues forward, Dragon Ball Super can provide us with the best of both worlds.
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Re: Earth is far different between DB and DBZ

Post by takotako » Mon May 02, 2016 9:33 pm

EmmaWinters wrote:Plenty of the wonder is gone as well.
That's very true. I meant to say something about it as well but I figured I implied it through the rest of my post.

What really got me hooked on Dragon Ball at the beginning was the idea that it portrayed itself as a fairy tale or a sort of epic set in the modern world.
I personally like stories with settings in which modern and fantasy coexist, which means I really enjoyed the early parts of Dragon Ball most of all. I started losing interest slightly by the time of Piccolo Daimao but what really lost me was Namek, which I feel had a lot of potential. (Though what really made watching the series feel like a chore was the filler that they let through near the end of DBZ Kai, but that's another subject entirely.)

I've been more or less keeping up with Super and I like it so far mostly because it's doing things differently. It's not quite like what Dragon Ball started with, but it's definitely held my interest.
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Re: Earth is far different between DB and DBZ

Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Mon May 02, 2016 10:08 pm

It is wierd how in less than a life span the whole world forgot about ki and magic. As well as the sudden disapearance of animal people. They must be related. I believe a human superiority group took control of the government from the shadows and launched a massive genocide in the five year break after the 23rd budoukai. They also lead an extensive anti ki propoganda campian to better control the planet. Similar to the Empire with the force in Star Wars.

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Re: Earth is far different between DB and DBZ

Post by Herms » Mon May 02, 2016 10:25 pm

I think the key is that the series consistently has crazy things popping up in it, but the source changes over time. At the beginning, the series is set entirely on Earth, so Earth has to be the source of all the crazy stuff. Hence characters not being able to walk down the street without bumping into big bear bandits or immortal hermits. Later on though other planets and the afterlife get added to the mix, so those places become the new source of crazy stuff, while Earth becomes the normal place getting invaded by all these weird outsiders. As a result, Earth's quirkiness gets scaled back in order to provide a greater contrast with the weirdness found elsewhere. Cutting out the animal people helps make the new alien characters easily distinguishable from Earthlings. Let's face it: a lot of Freeza's army consists of animal people dressed up in scouters and armor. Even Namekians and Saiyans have clearly established animal themes. Meanwhile, the preliminaries for the early tournaments are chock full of all sorts of weirdo background characters, to the point where Kaioshin and Kibito would blend in just fine. Which is obviously a problem if Goku and co. are supposed to immediately recognize them as unlike the rest of the competition. As a result, the Boo arc tournaments end up being almost entirely full of fairly ordinary-looking martial arts types.
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