Super Perfect Cell would wreck Mr. Boo and M10 LSSJ Broli

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Super Perfect Cell would wreck Mr. Boo and M10 LSSJ Broli

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Mon May 09, 2016 8:37 pm

1. Broli lost to 3 SSJs... two who are much weaker than SSJ Pre-Teen Gohan and SSJ2 is 4x SSJ.

2. SSJ2 Teen Gohan filled close to half the power needed to revive Majin Boo and said Gohan was laughably weaker than he was during the Cell Games. Also, when Fat Boo unleashed Evil Boo he was stated to have given the evil half most of the power.

...and it's generally agreed SSJ2 Pre-Teen Gohan ~ SPC, otherwise Cell wouldn't bother with Gohan after his zenkai and he wasn't even THAT much weaker than Gohan before then. After all, he had to counter Cell's Kamehameha with his own rather than smack it away like Freeza did Vegeta's Final Cannon or block it like Raditz did Goku's Kamehameha.

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Re: Super Perfect Cell would wreck Mr. Boo and M10 LSSJ Brol

Post by Haji » Mon May 09, 2016 8:58 pm

I don't think Gohan got weaker. i don't believe that. Vegeta said Gohan lost his fighters intuition. so, that plus no rage boost. and rage boost i don't see making Gohan stronger but being able to unleash ki faster. I have Gohan still with the same BP as when he was a teenager. but with everyone getting stronger Gohan got a bit left behind. mostly by Vegeta and maybe Piccolo.
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Re: Super Perfect Cell would wreck Mr. Boo and M10 LSSJ Brol

Post by Desassina » Tue May 10, 2016 4:11 am

I think that Super Perfect Cell is stronger than we give him credit for, because he transformed from the power of Semi-Perfect Cell, when he lost 18. If he had "powered up like Gohan" from his Perfect state, then things would be different, so I agree that he could take on Broly and Majin Boo (suppressed or good). I would put him around SSJ2 Goku's level, to be honest, but no more than that.

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Post by dario03 » Tue May 10, 2016 4:15 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:1. Broli lost to 3 SSJs... two who are much weaker than SSJ Pre-Teen Gohan and SSJ2 is 4x SSJ.

2. SSJ2 Teen Gohan filled close to half the power needed to revive Majin Boo and said Gohan was laughably weaker than he was during the Cell Games. Also, when Fat Boo unleashed Evil Boo he was stated to have given the evil half most of the power.

...and it's generally agreed SSJ2 Pre-Teen Gohan ~ SPC, otherwise Cell wouldn't bother with Gohan after his zenkai and he wasn't even THAT much weaker than Gohan before then. After all, he had to counter Cell's Kamehameha with his own rather than smack it away like Freeza did Vegeta's Final Cannon or block it like Raditz did Goku's Kamehameha.

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Post by apex_pretador » Tue May 10, 2016 5:04 am

I think from what is shown is manga and implied indicates that mr buu could wreck M10 LSS broly and SPC at the same time.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue May 10, 2016 8:37 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:1. Broli lost to 3 SSJs... two who are much weaker than SSJ Pre-Teen Gohan and SSJ2 is 4x SSJ.

2. SSJ2 Teen Gohan filled close to half the power needed to revive Majin Boo and said Gohan was laughably weaker than he was during the Cell Games. Also, when Fat Boo unleashed Evil Boo he was stated to have given the evil half most of the power.

...and it's generally agreed SSJ2 Pre-Teen Gohan ~ SPC, otherwise Cell wouldn't bother with Gohan after his zenkai and he wasn't even THAT much weaker than Gohan before then. After all, he had to counter Cell's Kamehameha with his own rather than smack it away like Freeza did Vegeta's Final Cannon or block it like Raditz did Goku's Kamehameha.

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1. You are completely forgetting to factor in base powers and that SSJ merely multiplies them. A single SSJ2 could wreck four SSJ1's if the difference in base power is large enough. A 200 isnt going to lose to four 10's for example.

2. Guidebook material (or something of the like, Herms and/or Kaboom would know more) said that Gohan didnt really see a drop in power. Rather he simply got rusty and forgot how to fight for the most part as well as lose the ability to have rage boosts. So in actual power, Buu Arc Gohan (pre training) and Cell Games Gohan are equal. Cell Games Gohan could be considered superior solely on being a better fighter and still having rage boosts.

Also the SSJ2 Gohan VS SP Cell argument I see going In Cell's favor, he completely breaks SSJ2 Gohan's arm with a blast fired at a unconscious Vegeta, who was weaker than both of them by a large margin. Pair that with the fact that Gohan was still relatively at 100% at the time of taking the blast and it would seemingly suggest SP Cell was the stronger of the two. Another example is when Gohan stops holding back on behalf of the planet and lets loose. It only briefly pushes Cell back before going right back into a losing position in the beam struggle. You can say he was hampered with the lose of an arm but he still let out ALL his power, crippled or not.

Granted when he was able to break through he was shown being capable of completely obliterating Cell but Cell was also caught off guard/stunned by Vegeta and later material such as Fukkatsu no F show that you are still vulnerable when caught off guard no matter how strong you may be so I consider it to be a repeat of Goku and the ring beam when it comes to Cell being killed by Gohan's Kamehameha.
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Post by VegettoEX » Tue May 10, 2016 8:51 am

Seems more appropriate for the general "versus" thread - thanks.
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