Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
This is the first completely new Dragonball series in 18 years since GT ended. Its reunited almost the entire original voice cast (aside from the few who passed away), and is a direct continuation of the old continuity with Toriyama himself providing plot outlines. Its a direct sequel to one of the most popular manga/anime series of all time.
And yet despite all this, its like nobody really cares. I don't see any talk of Super anywhere outside of Dragonball fan places, and that's it. We never expected to ever get a completely new Dragonball series, and yet here we are, and it feels...its "just there."
Is it just me or is there no hype?
And yet despite all this, its like nobody really cares. I don't see any talk of Super anywhere outside of Dragonball fan places, and that's it. We never expected to ever get a completely new Dragonball series, and yet here we are, and it feels...its "just there."
Is it just me or is there no hype?
Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
There are 2 reasons for the lack of hype outside the main DB community :
1- It's only available in Japan but that will change later this year.
2- It's not very good compared to the original and to today's anime.
1- It's only available in Japan but that will change later this year.
2- It's not very good compared to the original and to today's anime.
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
It just started. Wait 20 years and then see how much impact it had. And why would you expect it to be talked about by people who aren't into Dragonball in the first place?
Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
1. It's way too soon to have a big impact.....oh wait it did, with episode 5
. That's it's legendary moment.
2. It's not done anything truly positively legendary yet. Nothing really noteworthy or groundbreaking. Not in the sense that will inspire countless Mangaka and anime. I don't see Super references standing the test of time at all. Despite my enjoyment of its now improving quality, it'll pretty much be about as groundbreaking as GT was. Give us new characters for video games, new forms, and that's pretty much it.
2. It's not done anything truly positively legendary yet. Nothing really noteworthy or groundbreaking. Not in the sense that will inspire countless Mangaka and anime. I don't see Super references standing the test of time at all. Despite my enjoyment of its now improving quality, it'll pretty much be about as groundbreaking as GT was. Give us new characters for video games, new forms, and that's pretty much it.
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
1. It's still relatively new. It only started in 2015 and for most of that it was just a re-telling of existing stories.
2. It's not very good when compared to the original series or many other anime out today. It's pretty much just a nostalgia cash-grab so it'd rather play it safe.
2. It's not very good when compared to the original series or many other anime out today. It's pretty much just a nostalgia cash-grab so it'd rather play it safe.
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
Um...huh? Of course a series that has no official release outside of Japan...will have little impact outside of Japan. Dragon Ball or not.
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
It really hasn't done anything great or phenomenal. There aren't many surprises and most of it is pretty boring. I hate to tag on Super but when you get to the grit of it then it really isn't any thing special. I've actually met a couple of people who don't even know what Super is. Sorry Super but I can't be with ya always 
Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
I don't know about that. There are a lot of shows out there with no official release that are really popular.jjgp1112 wrote:Um...huh? Of course a series that has no official release outside of Japan...will have little impact outside of Japan. Dragon Ball or not.
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
Like what?Bansho64 wrote:I don't know about that. There are a lot of shows out there with no official release that are really popular.jjgp1112 wrote:Um...huh? Of course a series that has no official release outside of Japan...will have little impact outside of Japan. Dragon Ball or not.
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
One of the biggest reason why SUPER might not have any cultural impact is the fact that we are in the post anime.boom in the west.
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.
Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
If we're talking about fans in the U.S., my guesses are combination of "Maybe most fans in the U.S. are waiting for the dub?" and "With the exception of the "filler" episodes, the first 28 episodes were recapping BOG and F."
IF this upcoming Future Trunks Returns arc really is a dark story in the vein of the Cell arc, I could see it bringing a lot more people on board who prefer grimmer DB. (Personally I just hope Gokû Black has a real good backstory and that Vegeta stops ignoring Gokû so much and they start hanging out with each other again.)
IF this upcoming Future Trunks Returns arc really is a dark story in the vein of the Cell arc, I could see it bringing a lot more people on board who prefer grimmer DB. (Personally I just hope Gokû Black has a real good backstory and that Vegeta stops ignoring Gokû so much and they start hanging out with each other again.)
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
I actually can't think of any at the moment. My apologiesRedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote: Like what?
Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
While genuinely groundbreaking anime as Death Note, Code Geass, Hunter Hunter (2011) & FullMetal Alchemist: Brotherhood can go largely unnoticed at many parts of the world, you gotta be grateful Super (given its pathetic quality) somewhat made some sort of news/wave.
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DB & Z were genuinely great shows, while Super would make GT look like classic by comparison. Dat alone should tell its "far-fetched dream" of attaining the cultural impact as DB & Z did
Yeah, gratefullness.
DB & Z were genuinely great shows, while Super would make GT look like classic by comparison. Dat alone should tell its "far-fetched dream" of attaining the cultural impact as DB & Z did
Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
One Punch Man, perhaps?Bansho64 wrote:I actually can't think of any at the moment. My apologiesRedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote: Like what?
Of course its manga by Murata does have an official release.
Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
The anime also had an official simulcast, which DBS doesn't. That counts as an official release, i guess, especially when you have websites with huge traffics pushing for it everytime a new episode airs.dbgtFO wrote:One Punch Man, perhaps?Bansho64 wrote:I actually can't think of any at the moment. My apologiesRedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote: Like what?
Of course its manga by Murata does have an official release.
Also gotta love how this thread title makes it sound like Super aired 15 years ago, when it's been less than one year and it didn't even leave its home country yet.
And still, in Japan Toei and Bandai would disagree with it immensely. Ask them if they're not feeling an impact.
To answer the thread, you're probably just projecting your own thoughts there.
Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
Ah, I didn't know about the simulcast.
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Super is nearly a year old. Give it some time if it does happen. I doubt it will since GT didn't make a big cultural impact compare to DB and DBZ did.
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Re: Why hasn't Super had any cultural impact at all?
Super doesn't really stand out in terms of quality or execution in comparison to modern anime, so there really isn't any significance for it to stand out as something to trend outside of the specific fanbase in comparison to fresher shows like OPM, Kill La Kill, Attack On Titan, Prison School etc. Again, DB's format has been dated and remains dated, it won't have any cultural impact unless it really blows people away - and it barely impresses its own fanbase among those who expected better.
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What do you mean by "format"?
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