But there's no climax to that story. It flows right into the Baby arc pretty damn quick. Sure, it's a long beginning, but the Parapara brothers steal the Dragon Ball for the cult of Luud which is ultimately controlled by Dr. Myuu who was created by Baby. Think of arcs in terms of the climax of a story. We may not see the villain who is behind it all until halfway through, but that's because it's a mystery. There's no absolute rule that says when you have to introduce the main antagonist in a story.Anime Kitten wrote:Because Baby doesn't show up until Episode 22. I say Black Star Dragon Ball Arc and then Baby Arc.szopman wrote:17. Baby Saga (eps 1-40, I don;t understand why people separate it into two sagas, it's one straight story)
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Baby arc is fine, even Giru is connected to Machine Mutants who are created by Myu who is created by Baby and he appears in ep 3.Anime Kitten wrote:I suppose, but then we'd need a different name for it.Kuririn Fan wrote:Still, it doesn't feel like ending until they defat Baby and have that party. That's why some people, including me, see eps 1-40 as one arc.
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I see your point, ABED, although calling the first two episodes "Baby Arc" still doesn't sound right.
Anyway, I do agree with you.

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My favorite arc was Vegeta's followed closely by Piccolo's then Tenshinhan's. Gohan's could've been executed better and no he didn't need to be the hero of the story for his arc to be complete. Goku doesn't have much of an arc. He's pretty much the same guy from beginning to end, just older and a little less naïve, and I'm more than fine with that.
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For the anime:
1) Hunt for the Dragon Balls
2) 21st Tenkaichi Budokai
3) Red Ribbon Army
4) Uranai Baba)
5) 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai
6) Piccolo Daimao
7) 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai
8) Saiyan
9) Namek
10) Garlic Jr
11) Android/Cell
12) Afterlife Tournament
13) Buu
Super:
1) Beerus
2) Golden Freeza
3) Champa
4) Commeson
5) Goku Black
GT:
1) Black Star Dragon Balls Hunt
2) Baby
3) Super 17
4) Evil Dragons
1) Hunt for the Dragon Balls
2) 21st Tenkaichi Budokai
3) Red Ribbon Army
4) Uranai Baba)
5) 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai
6) Piccolo Daimao
7) 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai
8) Saiyan
9) Namek
10) Garlic Jr
11) Android/Cell
12) Afterlife Tournament
13) Buu
Super:
1) Beerus
2) Golden Freeza
3) Champa
4) Commeson
5) Goku Black
GT:
1) Black Star Dragon Balls Hunt
2) Baby
3) Super 17
4) Evil Dragons
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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My favorite arc was Kuririn's, then Vegeta's, Piccolo's and even Goku's.ABED wrote:My favorite arc was Vegeta's followed closely by Piccolo's then Tenshinhan's. Gohan's could've been executed better and no he didn't need to be the hero of the story for his arc to be complete. Goku doesn't have much of an arc. He's pretty much the same guy from beginning to end, just older and a little less naïve, and I'm more than fine with that.
Gohan is ruined in this new stuff.
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If the Commeson arc gets its own section, I think the ones I added in bold should as well, if only for consistency's sake.RandomGuy96 wrote:For the anime:
1) Hunt for the Dragon Balls
2) 21st Tenkaichi Budokai
3) Red Ribbon Army
4) Uranai Baba
S) Solo Training
5) 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai
6) Piccolo Daimao
S) Heavenly Training
7) 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai
S) Wedding Dress
8) Saiyan
9) Namek
10) Garlic Jr
11) Android/Cell
12) Afterlife Tournament
S) Great Saiyaman
13) Buu
Super:
1) Beerus
2) Golden Freeza
3) Champa
4) Commeson
5) Goku Black
GT:
1) Black Star Dragon Balls Hunt
2) Baby
3) Super 17
4) Evil Dragons
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What do you consider Kuririn's arc to be?Kuririn Fan wrote:My favorite arc was Kuririn's, then Vegeta's, Piccolo's and even Goku's.ABED wrote:My favorite arc was Vegeta's followed closely by Piccolo's then Tenshinhan's. Gohan's could've been executed better and no he didn't need to be the hero of the story for his arc to be complete. Goku doesn't have much of an arc. He's pretty much the same guy from beginning to end, just older and a little less naïve, and I'm more than fine with that.
Gohan is ruined in this new stuff.
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Lol, i realised that i fucked up after i wrote that, BUT i still liked that Kuririn had nice, well deserved closure in final, 10th manga arc. Married, has a kid, retired and confirmed to be the strongest Earthling. There's nothing more Kuririn Fan can ask for! It's all perfect!