Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #47]

Post by dhaval_dongre » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:19 pm

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For next week's episode many are guessing Shimanuki to be the supervisor. But the only doubt I have is, if its him then he will only have 5 weeks to prepare for it coming off #42. So my guess is, if its him supervising it then the key animation might be outsourced or he might be co-supervising it with someone else. He might still end up as the only one to supervise the episode, because he handled #42 and it looked decent, although there were considerably more no. of animators working on that episode. Probably might be the same pattern for #48 also. But I don't understand if its him, then why would they give him the episode so early, because the entire purpose of the mini arc before this was to give more time to production, like they did with today's episode (8 weeks and how nice it looked today. :) ) I am hoping there's more to this than what I am feeling right now. :think:
There was nothing to worry about in the end. They did a good job this episode, also with less no.of animators than the previous ones. Finally great to see some talented animators working on the series. Who did the Black vs Trunks fight ? Didn't look like Shimanuki to me. Guess the timeframe was enough for them despite it seemingly looking same to some episodes from the previous arcs. Though could be wrong about that.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #47]

Post by Ajay » Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:24 pm

dhaval_dongre wrote:There was nothing to worry about in the end. They did a good job this episode, also with less no.of animators than the previous ones. Finally great to see some talented animators working on the series. Who did the Black vs Trunks fight ? Didn't look like Shimanuki to me. Guess the timeframe was enough for them despite it seemingly looking same to some episodes from the previous arcs. Though could be wrong about that.
Yeah, wasn't Shimanuki. Didn't have any of his traits outside of a few cutaways that weren't part of the cut itself. The name that's been put forth is Futoshi Higashide. Based on this cut, I'd say there's a good chance it's him.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Sun Jun 19, 2016 10:07 pm

Excellent episode, to say nothing of an improved production.

Did anyone notice how Shimanuki drew the character models with proper cheek shade? I'm really impressed with how far he's come in just less than one year. He's almost back to his old Dragon Ball Z self. Out of all the Super supervisors, Shimanuki is personally my favorite. He really does stay away from Yamamuro's influence and be his own man.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by Sodhi » Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:16 pm

We could get some newcomers, depends on what changes Hatano wants to or can make.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by Ajay » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:25 am

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Did anyone notice how Shimanuki drew the character models with proper cheek shade? I'm really impressed with how far he's come in just less than one year. He's almost back to his old Dragon Ball Z self.
Yes! He's actually one of the few people who's always done the correct cheek shading. Though it's definitely become way more pronounced and angular since his tournament episode.

It really is interesting to see how far he's come:

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The bottom left Vegeta shot is one of my favourites. It is so classic Shimanuki. I love it.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by SuperGohan » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:31 am

Excuse me , but not too short the Shimanuki drawings, he lives in every episode many ups and many downs
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by Noah » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:38 am

Wow the first ones in 2005 looks like something taken straight from One Piece :sick:

Thank god he changed his art style through the years
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by Ajay » Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:18 pm

Noah wrote:Wow the first ones in 2005 looks like something taken straight from One Piece :sick:

Thank god he changed his art style through the years
Unsurprisingly, really. He'd been working on nothing but One Piece for around 6 years by this point. I'm surprised he got back into the swing of Dragon Ball so quickly!
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:42 pm

Always thought that DBZ Sagas intro looked awful.
Now that I know it was drawn in a style reminiscent of One Piece, it all makes sense now.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by Hit!! » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:01 pm

Ajay wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Did anyone notice how Shimanuki drew the character models with proper cheek shade? I'm really impressed with how far he's come in just less than one year. He's almost back to his old Dragon Ball Z self.
Yes! He's actually one of the few people who's always done the correct cheek shading. Though it's definitely become way more pronounced and angular since his tournament episode.

It really is interesting to see how far he's come:

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The bottom left Vegeta shot is one of my favourites. It is so classic Shimanuki. I love it.
Where are the 2005 and 2013 shots from??

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by Nejishiki » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:10 pm

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Ajay wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:Did anyone notice how Shimanuki drew the character models with proper cheek shade? I'm really impressed with how far he's come in just less than one year. He's almost back to his old Dragon Ball Z self.
Yes! He's actually one of the few people who's always done the correct cheek shading. Though it's definitely become way more pronounced and angular since his tournament episode.

It really is interesting to see how far he's come:

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The bottom left Vegeta shot is one of my favourites. It is so classic Shimanuki. I love it.
Where are the 2005 and 2013 shots from??
Sagas and Dream 9, respectively.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by Ajay » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:10 pm

Hit!! wrote:Where are the 2005 and 2013 shots from??
2005's shots are from the opening of the Dragon Ball Sagas video game.

2013's are Shimanuki's work on the One Piece x Toriko x Dragon Ball Z special that aired around the time Battle of Gods was being hyped up.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by nite_jay » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:24 pm

Tha One Piece/Dragonball special always looked off to me color wise. :sick:

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by Araki » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:13 pm

nite_jay wrote:Tha One Piece/Dragonball special always looked off to me color wise. :sick:
It was a DBxOPxToriko special, and almost everything about it looked off to me too, probably because it looked more like a Toriko episode than anything...even the One Piece half didn't feel very OP-ish to me.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by kinisking » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:02 pm

Shimanuki's faces are still a little weird but I don't mind. He seems to be great at giving us fight scenes.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by kinisking » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:55 pm

Is it just me or are the super saiyan aura's absolutely beautiful but the other ones are just plain ugly and unprofessional looking?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by Avok » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:14 pm

The modern ones or what?

If you mean the SSJ now, they're just ok. I don't like the colors, but they do the job.
I like the more fire-ish feel of the ones in the 2008 special tho (at this point I'm just circlejerking that OVA).

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by kinisking » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:16 pm

Avok wrote:The modern ones or what?

If you mean the SSJ now, they're just ok. I don't like the colors, but they do the job.
I like the more fire-ish feel of the ones in the 2008 special tho (at this point I'm just circlejerking that OVA).
The modern ones, maybe it's because the super saiyan is more translucent but it feels more believable than all the other auras.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:53 pm

Ajay wrote:
Noah wrote:Wow the first ones in 2005 looks like something taken straight from One Piece :sick:
Thank god he changed his art style through the years
Unsurprisingly, really. He'd been working on nothing but One Piece for around 6 years by this point.
Interesting.I remember thinking how it looked like One Piece, now I have the answer.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #48]

Post by Wezenheim » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:30 am

I've been meaning to reply again for a while but work has kept me really busy. Anyway, episode 48 looked really good. I loved Higashide's cut, I hope he comes back sometime!

It's crazy how much Shimanuki has improved. I know I said I like the way that Tate draws Future Trunks, and I definitely still do, but I actually think Shimanuki's Trunks is my favorite so far. I love that shot of Trunks in the Time Machine when he shouted at Black. If Shimanuki could only squish his faces just a little bit, it'd be darn near perfect. When Shimanuki draws a character well, he draws them really well.

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