It Super targeted at a younger audience?

[ChronoTwigger]

Thank to everyone, your comments are clarifying a lotta things to me.

[dbs fanboy]

I think that,as others said, times have changed. There are more shows that have this problem, Doraemon for example, when i was a little kid, that show was more mature than now, it had blood and in one episode a kid attemted to kill himself.
And now........it's more childish.

[dbzfan7]

I think times have changed, more than lowering the target audience. What was ok back then, is probably not as acceptable now I guess. We're in a more censorship world now. The audience is still the same, but the subject matter is tackled differently.

[Zephyr]

I think it's also worth noting that Toriyama significantly toned down Battle of Gods, when he was reworking it, as a result of the Fukushima disaster in 2011. Battle of Gods pretty much set the tone for the material to come after it. So it seems that Toei simply followed what he started.

So there might be more than just changing standards to all of this.

[sintzu]

The tone is great, the problem is Toei messing it up every few minutes with "funny" Pilaf gags.

Define "messing up." I'm enjoying it and them a lot.

I think they're making the tone uneven cause we keep switching from really dark to really light every few minutes.

[Lord Beerus]

The tone is great, the problem is Toei messing it up every few minutes with "funny" Pilaf gags.

Define "messing up." I'm enjoying it and them a lot.

I think they're making the tone uneven cause we keep switching from really dark to really light every few minutes.

I also enjoy the Pilaf Gang's antics, but I don have to admit that they take a back seat at times because I do get annoyed with Pilaf Gang at times mainly because of how they are inappropriately injected in the plot at times and then creating jarring flow of the narrative.

[saiyanvegetable]

You have to be braindead to think that Super isn't targeting s younger audience.

[DBZAOTA482]

You have to be braindead to think that Super isn't targeting s younger audience.

Watch what you say vegetable you can get a strike. And no need to insult people for not agreeing with you on a cartoon.

[Shuby]

The tone is great, the problem is Toei messing it up every few minutes with "funny" Pilaf gags.

Define "messing up." I'm enjoying it and them a lot.

You seem to like everything that utters "dragon ball" and "Akira Toriyama", being a fan is one thing but pointing out things or flaws is another.

[ChronoTwigger]

The tone is great, the problem is Toei messing it up every few minutes with "funny" Pilaf gags.

Define "messing up." I'm enjoying it and them a lot.

You seem to like everything that utters "dragon ball" and "Akira Toriyama", being a fan is one thing but pointing out things or flaws is another.

I think is only a request to expose a tought. If an admin doesn't like critiques, the entire section will reduce to 5% XD.
Anyway, I hate Pilaf even when contextual. I hate screaming silly SD chara with shrieking voice, if I was Shu I've already left him (or bite him to death).

[Avok]

I don't mind Pilaf, and actually, I really like the antics of the gang.

What you can't do is force those situations in an otherwise serious episode. Dragon Ball Z humor (and I say Z because this arc is a mirror of the threats in the latter part of the manga) was subtle and it didn't break the flow like they're doing now.

Goku making a funny comment about Frieza's blasts, or biting Buu, or offering porn magazines to the Kai, that's good and fine, because they're puntual little scenes. But what you can't have is a literal shift in the episode of Pilaf learning math, or a whole montage of him loosing 100 zeni in the middle of the inspection of the Time Machine.

That's an horrible way of including humor. Going back and forth between humorous and serious scenes ends bad almost everytime. I don't even want to remember Yoru no Yatterman last year... that was an abomination because of the tonal shifts within the episodes.

You can have complete episodes of funny and light-hearted stuff, and even funny dynamics with some characters, like with Gotenks, but when it's time to get serious it should stay that way.

Goku being a complete child 70% of the time is just a side effect of this.

[MCDaveG]

Super is more close to something like Yatterman than something that runs in Shonen Jump.

Does Yatterman feature characters being brutally murdered onscreen, characters suffering from PTSD and mass genocide?

I think the issue is that AT is writing his story outlines with the same mindset and tone as always, but Toei is putting their own spin on it that gives it a feel closer to something like Yatterman. So you have these dark overarching themes but they aren't treated with much gravity by the scriptwriters.

I think that it is pretty much this issue.