The Things GT Got Right

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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by ABED » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:35 pm

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ABED wrote:I think one of us should create another thread because it's off topic but a very interesting issue.
I nominate you. :mrgreen:
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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by sintzu » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:37 pm

ABED wrote:
sintzu wrote:
ABED wrote:I think one of us should create another thread because it's off topic but a very interesting issue.
I nominate you. :mrgreen:
You bastard :D
I'm not sure where you'll put it so could you put the link here when you're done ?
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Post by Anime Kitten » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:39 pm

Thanks guys. I appreciate you moving the conversation. :thumbup:
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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by sintzu » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:41 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:Thanks guys. I appreciate you moving the conversation. :thumbup:
It'll be an interesting discussion.
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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by ABED » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:42 pm

sintzu wrote:I'm not sure where you'll put it so could you put the link here when you're done ?
It's in "General Franchise Discussion". You'll find it without trouble.
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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:56 am

I also like that GT had fight scenes happen in a city. I think having a more urban feel with the fight scenes in areas with large buildings was always cool to watch. Super 17 saga and the Shadow Dragon arc did had a lot of fight scenes happen in cities and I hope Super will have those in the near future.
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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by PsionicWarrior » Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:37 am

Shinomori wrote:things GT got right.
2. Vegeta
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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by ABED » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:02 am

Using Pan instead of Uub. Pan brought out a protective familial element in Goku that was interesting.
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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:02 pm

ABED wrote:Using Pan instead of Uub. Pan brought out a protective familial element in Goku that was interesting.
Ah, you're right. I never thought of it that way. Uub wasn't overly appealing to me anyway.
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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by Kunzait_83 » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:41 pm

PsionicWarrior wrote:
Shinomori wrote:things GT got right.
2. Vegeta
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Just no.
As ungodly horrendous as that look is, lets not be too disingenuous about it: it lasts a grand total of I think like two episodes or thereabouts at most.

Vegeta spends the VAST overwhelming majority of his screentime in GT looking like this:

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Hands down one of his best ever looks IMO.
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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by Zephyr » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:26 pm

Yeah, the biker punk look fits him. I don't know if this is substantiated by any official source, but I remember reading somewhere that Vegeta was partly playing to how Japanese people viewed Americans. I know the naming conventions for his attacks reflect that, and this look takes that a good step further.

Gotta admit though, I love the stache (but not the hair it was paired with).

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Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:31 pm

Zephyr wrote:Gotta admit though, I love the stache (but not the hair it was paired with).
I agree there. The mustache is awesome and I would love to see SSJ4 Vegeta with one, but the hair is really... blech.
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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by ekrolo2 » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:46 pm

Vegeta's porn stache is the shit, it was the shit back in 1997 and it will remain so until the end of time.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:49 pm

Not really sure what you mean by that... :wtf:
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Post by ryou766 » Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:21 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Vegeta's porn stache is the shit, it was the shit back in 1997 and it will remain so until the end of time.
Just add any 70s cringe worthy porno music whenever Vegeta makes an entrance, and there you go.

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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:12 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:I'd probably dislike Goku being turned into a kid if he wasn't actually written more mature than any basically anything else. In GT, he's actually shown giving a damn about the Earth and his closest companions and when Baby beats him, he's not "Man! This guys so strong!". Instead, he feels sad and disappointed this guys going to take over his world and he can't do a damn thing about it.

Some might say this is Goku being written out of character but given how Goku's character does nothing but fuck all with a healthy dose of fuck yourself after Namek, I'll take this Goku's who's somewhat wizened up. Even Super, in a rare moment of good writing, showed Goku is capable of giving a damn about something other than fighting when he gets sick and has to bond with Pan.
I completely agree. Goku in GT had his competence and self-awareness intact despite being a kid (which was clearly just intended to be superficial) and that as a SS4 he had the maturity to recognize evil intentions and did make up for his neglect of Goten and abuse of Gohan with Pan. I liked that GT put him in more of a solo-veteran role for Pan, and for the series which I had no actual problem with.
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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by ABED » Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:43 pm

Goku in GT had his competence and self-awareness intact despite being a kid (which was clearly just intended to be superficial) and that as a SS4 he had the maturity to recognize evil intentions and did make up for his neglect of Goten and abuse of Gohan with Pan. I liked that GT put him in more of a solo-veteran role for Pan, and for the series which I had no actual problem with.
Of course he had his self awareness. He's still himself, just with his younger body. And when in the world did he abuse Gohan?
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ABED wrote:
Goku in GT had his competence and self-awareness intact despite being a kid (which was clearly just intended to be superficial) and that as a SS4 he had the maturity to recognize evil intentions and did make up for his neglect of Goten and abuse of Gohan with Pan. I liked that GT put him in more of a solo-veteran role for Pan, and for the series which I had no actual problem with.
Of course he had his self awareness. He's still himself, just with his younger body. And when in the world did he abuse Gohan?
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ABED wrote:Using Pan instead of Uub. Pan brought out a protective familial element in Goku that was interesting.
Ah, you're right. I never thought of it that way. Uub wasn't overly appealing to me anyway.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:00 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:
ABED wrote:Using Pan instead of Uub. Pan brought out a protective familial element in Goku that was interesting.
Ah, you're right. I never thought of it that way. Uub wasn't overly appealing to me anyway.
Oob is a homewrecking Gohan/Nam rip-off mohawk-boy.
Goku chose him. Not the other way around.

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Re: The Things GT Got Right

Post by DemonRin » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:18 pm

The Music was good, I'll never knock GT it's music. I did love all the opening and ending themes too, even if I consider Dan Dan more a Movie song than a GT song lol.

Also, I do commend them for the thought behind trying to bring a bit of the humor and fun of DB back instead of just being all action. DB had a fun mix, and it tipped more and more in "Action"s favor as time went on. I did appreciate the idea behind bringing some of that back...

The execution left something to be desired... that being... literally a do-over... turning Goku back into a kid and making the first arc a hunt for Dragon Balls....
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