Will there finally be a tense arc?

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by ryou766 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:02 pm

Faisal Shourov wrote:
sintzu wrote:What we're getting now is what we'll continue to get until the show is cancelled.
I don't think it will get cancelled, too many dumb kids and manchild are enjoying it.
Well, that was pretty blunt.

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by Sodhi » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:03 pm

Looks like people who are enjoying Super are being labeled as dumb kids and manchild.

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by sintzu » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:22 pm

Faisal Shourov wrote:He's a fodder to the Gods right now
He's not much more against a Ssj2 Goku.
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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by Faisal Shourov » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:41 pm

sintzu wrote:
Faisal Shourov wrote:He's a fodder to the Gods right now
He's not much more against a Ssj2 Goku.
Yeah. I don't want fighting every episode but the cheerful tone of the episodes kills any seriousness and suspense for the arc. I have watched over a hundred anime and Super's storytelling is one of the worst I have seen so far. On par with some harem anime
Toyotarō: … I get the feeling I’ve just heard something amazing (laughs). Lord Beerus and Whis turn up in Dragon Ball Super, and have become an unsurpassable wall for Goku and the gang. What do the two of them mean to you?

Toriyama: Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis.

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by sintzu » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:53 pm

Faisal Shourov wrote:The cheerful tone of the episodes kills any seriousness and suspense for the arc.
It wouldn't be a problem if the shift wasn't that big but it goes from one extreme to the other.

One minute it's all serious and Black is killing everyone, the next it's back to the usual gags and everyone acting stupid.
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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by Faisal Shourov » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:58 pm

sintzu wrote:It wouldn't be a problem if the shift wasn't that big but it goes from one extreme to the other.

One minute it's all serious and Black is killing everyone, the next it's back to the usual gags and everyone acting stupid.
Yeah the consistency is horrible. It's like the writers are also complete amateur, not just the animators. And it's always the same few people (goten, kid trunks, pilaf and gang) who're goofing around for 15 minutes. This is really giving shonen a bad name.
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Toriyama: Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis.

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by sintzu » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:03 pm

Faisal Shourov wrote:
Yeah the consistency is horrible. It's like the writers are also complete amateur, not just the animators. And it's always the same few people (goten, kid trunks, pilaf and gang) who're goofing around for 15 minutes. This is really giving shonen a bad name.
This says it all :

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Why are they there ? if I didn't see it on the episode I'd think someone added them as a joke using Photoshop.

It looks like someone added them at the last minute because they were afraid the image would scare children or something.
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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by Boo Machine » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:07 pm

sintzu wrote:
Faisal Shourov wrote:
Yeah the consistency is horrible. It's like the writers are also complete amateur, not just the animators. And it's always the same few people (goten, kid trunks, pilaf and gang) who're goofing around for 15 minutes. This is really giving shonen a bad name.
This says it all :

Image

Why are they there ? if I didn't see it on the episode I'd think someone added them as a joke using Photoshop.

It looks like someone added them at the last minute because they were afraid the image would scare children or something.
My problem with the image isn't the "it makes it less serious" notion.

I just dont like that there are little characters scattered all over what would have been a nice image. I hope the little ones actually play a part otherwise, yeah, they super didn't need to be on there.
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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by WittyUsername » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:10 pm

Faisal Shourov wrote:
sintzu wrote:It wouldn't be a problem if the shift wasn't that big but it goes from one extreme to the other.

One minute it's all serious and Black is killing everyone, the next it's back to the usual gags and everyone acting stupid.
Yeah the consistency is horrible. It's like the writers are also complete amateur, not just the animators. And it's always the same few people (goten, kid trunks, pilaf and gang) who're goofing around for 15 minutes. This is really giving shonen a bad name.
Don't even get me started on the Pilaf gang. Their antics are downright obnoxious by this point, and that romantic subplot between Mai and Trunks is pretty embarrassing to sit through, in my honest opinion. I still think the current arc with Black has shown some promise, but the over the top comedy is really becoming grating. That doesn't just apply to the Pilaf gang either, it also applies to Beerus and Whis. How many times do we have to see these guys obsessing over Earth food? It was funny at first, but now it's downright obnoxious.

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by Lujin_16 » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:30 pm

Faisal Shourov wrote:
sintzu wrote:It wouldn't be a problem if the shift wasn't that big but it goes from one extreme to the other.

One minute it's all serious and Black is killing everyone, the next it's back to the usual gags and everyone acting stupid.
Yeah the consistency is horrible. It's like the writers are also complete amateur, not just the animators. And it's always the same few people (goten, kid trunks, pilaf and gang) who're goofing around for 15 minutes. This is really giving shonen a bad name.

They play a important role on this arc stop bitching like a kid when you don't like it than don't watch it...Dragonball is not all about seriousness and fighting it is much more than that but people like you will never understand that sad for you

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by Michie » Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:31 am

Lujin_16 wrote:
Faisal Shourov wrote:
sintzu wrote:It wouldn't be a problem if the shift wasn't that big but it goes from one extreme to the other.

One minute it's all serious and Black is killing everyone, the next it's back to the usual gags and everyone acting stupid.
Yeah the consistency is horrible. It's like the writers are also complete amateur, not just the animators. And it's always the same few people (goten, kid trunks, pilaf and gang) who're goofing around for 15 minutes. This is really giving shonen a bad name.

They play a important role on this arc stop bitching like a kid when you don't like it than don't watch it...Dragonball is not all about seriousness and fighting it is much more than that but people like you will never understand that sad for you
I never like comments like these one. I have re watched Dr Slump twice, watched BoG 7 times, have seen every movie at least 3 times, have read the manga dozens of times, completed Kai and have seen every episode of Z at least 2 times. Dragon Ball Super just feels diffent than everything that became before it, you can't denied that.

An example. Trunks has just lost his mother and his girl friend. Basically everyone he had left after losing everyone else at a earlier stage. He returns to the past, meets everyone else. Sees Beerus and a couple of minutes later he's eating fish wieners and laughing with everyone else like nothing has happend. It felt like it a completely different anime.

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by sintzu » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:01 am

Lujin_16 wrote:People like you will never understand that sad for you
You know for a fact that Super is completely different and not in a good way but instead of admitting that you and other Super fanboys go around spreading lies about the franchise always being like that and accusing other fans of not understanding it but in reality you're the ones who have no clue about what you're talking about.
Michie wrote: I have re watched Dr Slump twice, watched BoG 7 times, have seen every movie at least 3 times, have read the manga dozens of times, completed Kai and have seen every episode of Z at least 2 times. Dragon Ball Super just feels different than everything that came before it, you can't deny that.
Super's fanboys will always deny it.
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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by Lujin_16 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:25 am

Who cares if Dragonball Super is different???? let it be different :wink: Dragonball classic was different than Dragonball Z and so is Dragonball Super nothing wrong with that it is called Super

and not Z it must be different and just becuase some don't like changes that doesn't mean other fans are not enjoying it
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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by ryou766 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:31 am

Lujin_16 wrote:Who cares if Dragonball Super is different???? let it be different :wink: Dragonball classic was different than Dragonball Z and so is Dragonball Super nothing wrong with that it is called Super

and not Z it must be different
No one said that the story was bad because it's different, that has nothing to do with it. A story could be different from its predecessor and still be good. Super is HORRIFYINGLY different for all the bad reasons.

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:02 am

Oh for God's sake can we just stop this bloody bickering and labelling it's quite frankly getting annoying. Every single godamn thread.

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by Michie » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:28 am

Lujin_16 wrote:Who cares if Dragonball Super is different???? let it be different :wink: Dragonball classic was different than Dragonball Z and so is Dragonball Super nothing wrong with that it is called Super

and not Z it must be different and just becuase some don't like changes that doesn't mean other fans are not enjoying it

It makes me so sad that people seem to think this is the best DB has to offer. Every DB/Z arc felt like an adventure with fun moments and a great set of characters. When you had 3 parties searching for the Dragon Balls on Namek I Couldn't stop watching. The group dynamics, character development and surprising moments made it such a great experience.

Dragon Ball Super has none of that. And because it's placed before the EoZ nothing of importance can happen.

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:32 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Oh for God's sake can we just stop this bloody bickering and labelling it's quite frankly getting annoying. Every single godamn thread.
I think people enjoy doing it.

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by VegettoEX » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:54 am

Faisal Shourov wrote:I don't think it will get cancelled, too many dumb kids and manchild are enjoying it.
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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by Luso Saiyan » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:31 am

sintzu wrote:You know for a fact that Super is completely different and not in a good way
That not a fact.

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Re: Will there finally be a tense arc?

Post by sintzu » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:58 am

Michie wrote:Every DB/Z arc felt like an adventure with fun moments and a great set of characters. The group dynamics, character development and surprising moments made it such a great experience. Dragon Ball Super has none of that.

And because it's placed before the EoZ nothing of importance can happen.
The writers have no idea about what made the original so good which is why we'll never see anything you mentioned, regardless of when it's set.
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