Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

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Re: Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:08 pm

Krillin isn't all that popular in the franchise, compared to the Saiyans and other alien characters, and he pretty much hit a brick wall way quicker than Gohan did. He really couldn't contribute much to the plot in terms of a physical role after the Namek arc, while Gohan, being a Saiyan, still had the "hidden potential" card to play in his favour. He still could do more in plot and it seemed like Toriyama and Toei weren't interested in following through him as the protagonist, the deuteragonist, or even the tritagonist of the franchise. At best they wanted Gohan to essential retire from fighting and relegate him to being a supporting character, and given how he was set up to take the mantle from Goku as the lead character at the end of then Cell Games, with him being the strongest in the universe, a lot of fans felt that Gohan was robbed of what they thought was rightful status at the top, or the very least, very near the top of the food chain.

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Re: Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

Post by ssj4nick » Wed Jul 20, 2016 7:39 pm

Actually Krillin is quite a popular character in Japan and is more popular than Tenshinhan there . In the USA things change as people tend to go for a more macho stereotype of a character imo and Krillin isn't that type of character but he is badass in other ways .

I am a Krillin fan but how should I start complaining about Krillin now ? I mean him not getting fights was already a fact after frieza saga and some action he got against Cell.

I would love to see more of Krillin and of other members of the Dragon Team and I really enjoyed their part in the RoF movie, but I know that it ain't gonna happen !

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Re: Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:48 pm

Because Krillin doesn't have the same potential than Gohan, and after all the cool stuff Gohan did is much sadder to see him go.
Also Gohan has a much bigger fanbase, so it's normal we will make some noise.
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Re: Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

Post by precita » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:11 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Krillin isn't all that popular in the franchise, compared to the Saiyans and other alien characters, and he pretty much hit a brick wall way quicker than Gohan did. He really couldn't contribute much to the plot in terms of a physical role after the Namek arc, while Gohan, being a Saiyan, still had the "hidden potential" card to play in his favour. He still could do more in plot and it seemed like Toriyama and Toei weren't interested in following through him as the protagonist, the deuteragonist, or even the tritagonist of the franchise. At best they wanted Gohan to essential retire from fighting and relegate him to being a supporting character, and given how he was set up to take the mantle from Goku as the lead character at the end of then Cell Games, with him being the strongest in the universe, a lot of fans felt that Gohan was robbed of what they thought was rightful status at the top, or the very least, very near the top of the food chain.
Krillin had a very large role all throughout DBZ up to the part where Dabura froze him in stone. He doesn't do much in the Buu saga unless you count the extra fights Toei gave him in filler, but he's still pretty relevant to the end. Same with Piccolo.

Now in Super, Krillin and Piccolo get to do gardening while everyone else fights.

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Re: Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

Post by Beyond » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:38 am

We all know this show doesn't handle it's characters well when it comes to fighting. Retirement is basically just being blunt about where that character stands. I mean what they did to Gohan was especially heinous because there is no doubt he could catch up. I mean I see Gohan being a family man, but he kinda dropped the ball. There is no doubt that toei could have handled it better. Piccolo got it kinda bad too because all it would take is kaioken to keep him relevant(well maybe not anymore but during buu arc anyway). I feel the worst for Tien fans since they might always believe there is hope when there is none. God ki made everything 1000x times worse.

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Re: Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:16 am

Krillin's fanbase doesn't consist of annoying self-inserting young boys/manchildren who only like the character for what they want him to be and the story doesn't take a shit on him at every opportunity.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

Post by ABED » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:40 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Krillin's fanbase doesn't consist of annoying self-inserting young boys/manchildren who only like the character for what they want him to be and the story doesn't take a shit on him at every opportunity.
How does the story take a shit on him?
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Re: Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:08 am

ABED wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Krillin's fanbase doesn't consist of annoying self-inserting young boys/manchildren who only like the character for what they want him to be and the story doesn't take a shit on him at every opportunity.
How does the story take a shit on him?
The fact it goes out of it's way to remind people of how much Gohan sucks. Goku even pretty much said "Pssh... fuck Gohan... he's a nerd. He can't even find his gi." to Vegeta when he suggested having Gohan on the team cause of his potential.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

Post by ABED » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:12 am

The fact it goes out of it's way to remind people of how much Gohan sucks. Goku even pretty much said "Pssh... fuck Gohan... he's a nerd. He can't even find his gi." to Vegeta when he suggested having Gohan on the team cause of his potential.
My guess is what actually happened is Vegeta made the suggestion, but Goku said that Gohan is out of practice. I doubt he said he sucked, and this in no way craps on Gohan. And Gohan doesn't suck, he's just not interested in fighting.
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Re: Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

Post by SSJ Human » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:41 pm

I was content since even though he wasn't battling anymore, he still was active in the plot and actually contributed to it in some meaningful way. It seems as if people can't understand this. I could care less if Gohan ever throws another punch again so long as he remains an important asset to the plot similar to Bulma's function since her inception. Not being able to fight shouldn't mean out of focus and Krillin proved that.

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Re: Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

Post by jplaya2023 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:02 pm

precita wrote:Why don't people complain that Krillin has essentially retired from fighting in the same manner that Gohan has? Sure we saw him right Freeza's soldiers in the movie, but aside from that, it seems Krillin is pretty much done.

Even in the Boo arc he was pretty much left on the sidelines, immediately turned to stone when Babidi arrived and then didn't get to do much if/any fighting against Boo, and what little he did was filler fights added by TOEI. And for the entire span of Super he's not participated in any fights outside the Freeza henchmen.

Why are people OK with Krillin retiring from fighting when he's one of the series most important characters, yet are complaining that others get sidelined?
comparing krilian and gohan "retiring" from fighting would be like comparing a 27 year old steph curry retiring from the nba vs a 27 year old dion waiters. 1 is relevant and the other one not so much

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Re: Krillin "retiring" from fighting not getting much complaints

Post by SSJ Human » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:08 am

ABED wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Krillin's fanbase doesn't consist of annoying self-inserting young boys/manchildren who only like the character for what they want him to be and the story doesn't take a shit on him at every opportunity.
How does the story take a shit on him?
The story apparently pulls its pants down by this statement he made.

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