Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

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Re: Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

Post by Big Black Sayian » Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:12 am

Kishido wrote:This words by Vegeta to Trunks... God damnit... It goes for Gohan as well.

Yeah and before peple say he started training after RoF... Cool... Piccolo again said he is no fighter in this arc
Yeah, I don't get. Future Trunks probably isn't a character who cares a lot about being strong. But like Vegeta says he needs to get stronger in case a tough enemy shows up. Would not the same thing apply to Gohan? I know he wants to be a family man and enjoys studying. But being adult includes hard decisions.

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Re: Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

Post by sintzu » Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:51 am

Kishido wrote:This words by Vegeta to Trunks... God damnit... It goes for Gohan as well.
Gohan...just forget about him.

At least Vegeta isn't going to let Trunks go down that road so it's better than nothing.
Big Black Saiyan wrote:Would not the same thing apply to Gohan? I know he wants to be a family man and enjoys studying. But being adult includes hard decisions.
Gohan is nothing but a shell of his former self.
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Re: Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

Post by Brettjr25 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:57 am

And why havent you guys joined the military became a poloce officier? Are you really contempt with being protected by others? Doesnt Vegeta words apply to you as well?

Everyone has their own fate and they decided that Gohan never really wanted to fight. I would argue that somewhere along the line he wanted to be a protector after the cell fight. Which saw the idea manifest with the great saiyaman. But being a happy father with a nice wife and daughter can be a dream too. I always wanted that for myself and Gohan was always my favorite character, so despite the fact that I would like him to return as a fighter I am happy he achieved this and accept that Trunks eps with him in it as his retirement..for now.

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Re: Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

Post by Kagari » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:33 am

sintzu wrote:
Kishido wrote:This words by Vegeta to Trunks... God damnit... It goes for Gohan as well.
Gohan...just forget about him.

At least Vegeta isn't going to let Trunks go down that road so it's better than nothing.
Big Black Saiyan wrote:Would not the same thing apply to Gohan? I know he wants to be a family man and enjoys studying. But being adult includes hard decisions.
Gohan is nothing but a shell of his former self.
You could honestly say that about a lot of characters in Super.

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Re: Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

Post by sintzu » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:47 am

Kagari wrote:You could honestly say that about a lot of characters in Super.
Which is very unfortunate but at least the prince of all...handful of Saiyans is still relevant. :clap:
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Post by Big Black Sayian » Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:11 pm

Brettjr25 wrote:And why havent you guys joined the military became a poloce officier? Are you really contempt with being protected by others? Doesnt Vegeta words apply to you as well?

Everyone has their own fate and they decided that Gohan never really wanted to fight. I would argue that somewhere along the line he wanted to be a protector after the cell fight. Which saw the idea manifest with the great saiyaman. But being a happy father with a nice wife and daughter can be a dream too. I always wanted that for myself and Gohan was always my favorite character, so despite the fact that I would like him to return as a fighter I am happy he achieved this and accept that Trunks eps with him in it as his retirement..for now.
Well I'm in Marine Corps Reserve? Does that count for something? :p I know lots of people who have families or other jobs.

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Re: Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

Post by Brettjr25 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:26 pm

Big Black Saiyan wrote:
Brettjr25 wrote:And why havent you guys joined the military became a poloce officier? Are you really contempt with being protected by others? Doesnt Vegeta words apply to you as well?

Everyone has their own fate and they decided that Gohan never really wanted to fight. I would argue that somewhere along the line he wanted to be a protector after the cell fight. Which saw the idea manifest with the great saiyaman. But being a happy father with a nice wife and daughter can be a dream too. I always wanted that for myself and Gohan was always my favorite character, so despite the fact that I would like him to return as a fighter I am happy he achieved this and accept that Trunks eps with him in it as his retirement..for now.
Well I'm in Marine Corps Reserve? Does that count for something? :p I know lots of people who have families or other jobs.
Like Goku and Vegeta right? But is everyone in this thread apart of the military? If not my point remains. I wasnt stating that people who fight for others cant have those things just that, that isnt the path for everyone else nor the other ones who complaining hypocritically.

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Re: Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

Post by Kishido » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:36 pm

Kagari wrote:
sintzu wrote:
Kishido wrote:This words by Vegeta to Trunks... God damnit... It goes for Gohan as well.
Gohan...just forget about him.

At least Vegeta isn't going to let Trunks go down that road so it's better than nothing.
Big Black Saiyan wrote:Would not the same thing apply to Gohan? I know he wants to be a family man and enjoys studying. But being adult includes hard decisions.
Gohan is nothing but a shell of his former self.
You could honestly say that about a lot of characters in Super.
Who else? Piccolo, Kid Trunks or Goten. Kid Trunks and Goten are still kids and even at Buu saga they haven't been more than jokes as Gotenks.

Piccoo even AT THE BUU saga was not that important... But even he still got some love in Super

The rest are just have been not important ever since Frieza saga.

So you can't compare them to Gohan... A guy, who even in Super was stated to have the biggest potential

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Re: Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

Post by TekTheNinja » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:02 pm

Kishido wrote:
Kagari wrote:
sintzu wrote:
Gohan...just forget about him.

At least Vegeta isn't going to let Trunks go down that road so it's better than nothing.



Gohan is nothing but a shell of his former self.
You could honestly say that about a lot of characters in Super.
Who else? Piccolo, Kid Trunks or Goten. Kid Trunks and Goten are still kids and even at Buu saga they haven't been more than jokes as Gotenks.

Piccoo even AT THE BUU saga was not that important... But even he still got some love in Super

The rest are just have been not important ever since Frieza saga.

So you can't compare them to Gohan... A guy, who even in Super was stated to have the biggest potential
BS. Everyone was useful in Cell saga, and most at least had a role to play in the Buu saga.

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Re: Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

Post by Kishido » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:35 pm

TekTheNinja wrote:
Kishido wrote:
Kagari wrote: You could honestly say that about a lot of characters in Super.
Who else? Piccolo, Kid Trunks or Goten. Kid Trunks and Goten are still kids and even at Buu saga they haven't been more than jokes as Gotenks.

Piccoo even AT THE BUU saga was not that important... But even he still got some love in Super

The rest are just have been not important ever since Frieza saga.

So you can't compare them to Gohan... A guy, who even in Super was stated to have the biggest potential
BS. Everyone was useful in Cell saga, and most at least had a role to play in the Buu saga.
In terms of plot yes but in the fight not. And even in terms it plot they all have been side characters bar the Saiyans and Piccolo.

And now look at Buu saga...

Seriously what now is happening to Gohan is similar to them in Z... But the difference is not one of the other Z fighters are even close to Gohan's potential

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Post by MozillaVulpix » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:39 pm

Yeah, Future Trunks feels like he's taking Gohan's place, at least in this arc.

But on the bright side, if Goku, Vegeta and Future Trunks all go to fight Black (and maybe if Kid Trunks stows away), that makes Gohan probably the strongest person on Earth to protect that timeline. Maybe there was a reason as to why they were so adamant he wasn't coming to the future?

...ok, it's a stretch.
I could have gotten into anything...and yet I chose the story aimed at young Japanese boys about martial arts, and later about super-powerful aliens punching each other really hard.

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Re: Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

Post by Kagari » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:40 pm

TekTheNinja wrote:
Kishido wrote:
Kagari wrote: You could honestly say that about a lot of characters in Super.
Who else? Piccolo, Kid Trunks or Goten. Kid Trunks and Goten are still kids and even at Buu saga they haven't been more than jokes as Gotenks.

Piccoo even AT THE BUU saga was not that important... But even he still got some love in Super

The rest are just have been not important ever since Frieza saga.

So you can't compare them to Gohan... A guy, who even in Super was stated to have the biggest potential
BS. Everyone was useful in Cell saga, and most at least had a role to play in the Buu saga.
Yes. Even if they weren't fighting a lot of the cast was still on-screen in some capacity. You can't really say that about Super since the new content started.
MozillaVulpix wrote:Yeah, Future Trunks feels like he's taking Gohan's place, at least in this arc.

But on the bright side, if Goku, Vegeta and Future Trunks all go to fight Black (and maybe if Kid Trunks stows away), that makes Gohan probably the strongest person on Earth to protect that timeline. Maybe there was a reason as to why they were so adamant he wasn't coming to the future?

...ok, it's a stretch.
You're not wrong. I want to see something happen to the present while Goku/Vegeta/Trunks are away.

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Re: Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

Post by Kishido » Tue Aug 09, 2016 12:56 am

MozillaVulpix wrote:Yeah, Future Trunks feels like he's taking Gohan's place, at least in this arc.

But on the bright side, if Goku, Vegeta and Future Trunks all go to fight Black (and maybe if Kid Trunks stows away), that makes Gohan probably the strongest person on Earth to protect that timeline. Maybe there was a reason as to why they were so adamant he wasn't coming to the future?

...ok, it's a stretch.
This is exactly the same as the people who had hope that Gohan is doing amazing stuff protecting the earth while everyone else is at the U6 tournament

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Post by MozillaVulpix » Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:09 am

Yeah, I'm not actually getting my hopes up. At the very least, we should be happy this arc gave Gohan an entire episode dedicated to explaining why he's not showing up.

...although it still makes the Toei additions to RF completely contradictory for his character.
I could have gotten into anything...and yet I chose the story aimed at young Japanese boys about martial arts, and later about super-powerful aliens punching each other really hard.

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Re: Forget about Gohan, what remains are only memories

Post by kinisking » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:56 am

Gohan will always be the best to me, even though he's disappointed me greatly.
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Post by Kagari » Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:38 pm

kinisking wrote:Gohan will always be the best to me, even though he's disappointed me greatly.
He's only been disappointing in Super post Battle of the Gods for me if we want to look at modern DB. I'm happy he still gets top treatment in the video games right behind Goku.

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Post by kinisking » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:56 am

Kagari wrote:
kinisking wrote:Gohan will always be the best to me, even though he's disappointed me greatly.
He's only been disappointing in Super post Battle of the Gods for me if we want to look at modern DB. I'm happy he still gets top treatment in the video games right behind Goku.
I agree. His treatment in BOG wasn't too bad. I think Vegeta and Future trunks will still get more treatment. Maybe even Goten and trunks because it seems they're going to be more relevant from this point on.
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Post by Kishido » Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:32 am

And now the hope of Gohan being somehow involved cuz he forgot to ask Trunks is crushed as well.

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Post by Kagari » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:42 pm

Kishido wrote:And now the hope of Gohan being somehow involved cuz he forgot to ask Trunks is crushed as well.
Ideally the present timeline will fall into crisis while Goku and co. are away in the future.

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Post by Kishido » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:56 pm

Kagari wrote:
Kishido wrote:And now the hope of Gohan being somehow involved cuz he forgot to ask Trunks is crushed as well.
Ideally the present timeline will fall into crisis while Goku and co. are away in the future.
LOL yeah same stuff peolpe have said when everyone went to the U6 tournament while Gohan stayed back

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