"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:51 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:I'm still confused about the whole "5 years without seeing Bulma" thing I've heard. Anyone think Super will do it?
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Post by Alruneia » Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:52 pm

Krillin1994 wrote:A lack of timeskip oddly makes me feel that something will happen to Goku/Vegeta in the future.

Trunks has to come through on his promise.

In an ideal situation Future Trunks needs to become a god after narrowly escaping the future again. He lines up gohan, goten, Trunks and pan to do the ritual. but they need another. Bulma steps forward(Bra).
I'd love to get confirmation on Bulla, but... I don't know if this is the best way to do it. I do like the idea of Future Trunks doing the classic God ritual instead of just pulling a Vegeta, but Goku and Vegeta would have to be away for this scenario to happen, so... how would they be away? They'd have to get stuck in the future, no? I can't really see a way for that to happen.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Krillin1994 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:55 pm

Alruneia wrote:
Krillin1994 wrote:A lack of timeskip oddly makes me feel that something will happen to Goku/Vegeta in the future.

Trunks has to come through on his promise.

In an ideal situation Future Trunks needs to become a god after narrowly escaping the future again. He lines up gohan, goten, Trunks and pan to do the ritual. but they need another. Bulma steps forward(Bra).
I'd love to get confirmation on Bulla, but... I don't know if this is the best way to do it. I do like the idea of Future Trunks doing the classic God ritual instead of just pulling a Vegeta, but Goku and Vegeta would have to be away for this scenario to happen, so... how would they be away? They'd have to get stuck in the future, no? I can't really see a way for that to happen.
If the odds looked hopeless against Goku and Vegeta against Black. The Vegeta we've seen in Super would tell his son to flee. The time machine is the most important thing at the moment.

would also be a good way to shift focus from Goku and Vegeta for a bit. Though we could still have Mai and the resistance do something to distract Black so that they can rescue Goku/Vegeta and nurse them back to health in the future.

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Post by Boo Machine » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:36 pm

with them going after Black already, it makes me wonder how Zamasu will factor into this?

Maybe he just becomes a 2nd Black when this 1st one is defeated? (assuming he is Black and there isn't some twist.)
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Post by sintzu » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:41 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:I'm still confused about the whole "5 years without seeing Bulma" thing I've heard. Anyone think Super will do it?
When Super ends I think it'll end with the 28th Tenkaichi like the manga but it'll have changes that'll make it fit within Super's events.

For example Bulma won't say they haven't seen him in 5 years and Vegeta would know about Uub.

Hopefully they'll remember to grow up Goten and Trunks.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:43 pm

sintzu wrote:When Super ends I think it'll end with the 28th Tenkaichi like the manga but it'll have changes that'll make it fit within Super's events.

For example Bulma won't say they haven't seen him in 5 years and Vegeta would know about Uub.

Hopefully they'll remember to grow up Goten and Trunks.
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Post by Cetra » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:44 pm

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Alruneia wrote:It says 超サイヤ人ロゼ in the Episode 56 title. Sūpā Saiya-jin Roze. As far as I've understood it, it's like this: In Japanese you can "ignore" u's (that's how you get Buruma to become Bulma), but you can't ignore e's. If you want to say Rose, you use Rozu (as it's pronounced "ro-s" in English), and if you want to say Rosé, you use Roze (as it's pronounced "ro-say" in English). Someone who actually knows Japanese should be able to explain this much better than me (or correct me), though.
Pretty much on the money, I think.

Japanese is phonetic, so you just read what each bit of kana represents.

ロ - Ro
ゼ - Ze

Rose would be ローズ - Rōzu, which as you said, if you subtly drop the u, you end up with the English word.
If you would go after the English sound you would be right. If the Japanese intend to for example mimic the German sound, what Alruneia said is very possible (at least flower-wise). Just like Beerus, so Birusu with his name came from the German "Virus", which you would know as "Veerus" instead of the more like "Vairus" sounding English word. (I skipped the "Beer" part now as that came in additionally later).
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:51 pm

sintzu wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:I'm still confused about the whole "5 years without seeing Bulma" thing I've heard. Anyone think Super will do it?
When Super ends I think it'll end with the 28th Tenkaichi like the manga but it'll have changes that'll make it fit within Super's events.

For example Bulma won't say they haven't seen him in 5 years and Vegeta would know about Uub.

Hopefully they'll remember to grow up Goten and Trunks.
Just change the events of that tournament and continue Super on from there or a new series.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:56 pm

Grimlock wrote:Okay, we have our summaries translated.

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Pretty certain the person that Goku, Vegeta and Future Trunks run into is Future Mai. I'm also quote glad that Beerus and Whis are taking a backseat from the central conflicts of this arc. I just hope that the characters involved in the central conflicts in future arcs expands beyond Goku and Vegeta.

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Post by Nekis13 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:06 pm

I'm not really liking the way this is looking (and I like most things Super does, kinda)... It seems that this arc will be the same length as the others. Hopefully SSB vs SSRose isn't the final fight, extend the arc at least 6 more episodes
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:09 pm

Nekis13 wrote:I'm not really liking the way this is looking (and I like most things Super does, kinda)... It seems that this arc will be the same length as the others. Hopefully SSB vs SSRose isn't the final fight, extend the arc at least 6 more episodes
12th episode is the SSR vs SSGSS fight and I believe the U6 arc was 13 episodes long. Definitely seems to be nearing the end.

Long arcs are a thing of the past. Was really hoping this would be a 24 episode arc.

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Post by LightBing » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:19 pm

I doubt the arc is ending so soon. Would Mr.Toriyama really take months to write this? There's also suspect a filler episode in-between(Gohan episode). I don't buy it.
There's also too much of a cooldown for this supposed final fight to have enough impact, after all this waiting around and investigation. What I expect is they build Black as an actual threat. He's SSJ3 level, that's not material for a final confrontation.

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Post by Sodhi » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:24 pm

Yea they are just going to the future. Zamasu does not seem to be a part of the plot until #57, so I doubt the arc is ending soon. We still have a lot to know how black ended up being black, how he went to trunks timeline etc.Also whats up with goku's body.

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Post by Kanassa » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:31 pm

If I had my way it would be...

Goku, Vegeta and Turnks go to the future
Fight Black
Black powers up, over powers Goku
Vegeta and Trunks tag team him
Zamazu appears at Capsuel Corp in the present
Has bullshit power up
Decides to start his exstermination of humanity while waiting for Goku to return
Trunks gets Goten and they fuse
Zamazu fights Gotenks and actually struggles
But fusion runs out and allows him to take out the two (KILL THE KIDS!)
Shit happens.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:36 pm

Kanassa wrote:But fusion runs out and allows him to take out the two (KILL THE KIDS!)
Shit happens.
Unless the Pilaf gang is among those kids who die, I am not interested.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:45 pm

LightBing wrote:I doubt the arc is ending so soon. Would Mr.Toriyama really take months to write this? There's also suspect a filler episode in-between(Gohan episode). I don't buy it.
There's also too much of a cooldown for this supposed final fight to have enough impact, after all this waiting around and investigation. What I expect is they build Black as an actual threat. He's SSJ3 level, that's not material for a final confrontation.
Don't see how taking months to work on the story means it's going to be long. Super generally has 13 or so episodes each main arc. SSR will be revealed and this itense battle begins around the 12th episode all evidence is pointing to this being a short arc like the others. Plus we still have one more exposition episode to go so we'll likely find out for sure if the arcs nearing it's end or not in a few weeks.

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Post by BWri » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:46 pm

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kinisking wrote:Honestly, I wish everyone just stayed in their base forms. I always thought everyone besides for trunks and maybe vegeta looked better that way anyways.
Yeah I agree. I don't really find these multi-color transformations very exciting. I guess I could deal with white but we're not getting that.
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Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:49 pm

I don't think Akira really delves at all into battles or abilities. He just writes a rough draft and then Toei or Toyble take it from there. Hence why the anime has stuff like SSJB + Kaioken, whereas the manga has the return of SSJG.
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Post by Sodhi » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:49 pm

I am just glad that goku is going first. Unless they all are fighting black together, goku is going to lose or something else is going to happen.
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Post by Chiki » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:51 pm

Nekis13 wrote:I'm not really liking the way this is looking (and I like most things Super does, kinda)... It seems that this arc will be the same length as the others. Hopefully SSB vs SSRose isn't the final fight, extend the arc at least 6 more episodes
I find that unlikely, there's still a lot of unanswered questions and there has to be a fight with Zamasu of some kind. That whole mess has to be solved.

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