The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[Power Metal]

Going to include some anime-only material here...

But what if, Gero's little DNA collector bot had been present for the Garlic Jr fight and collected some of his immortal DNA, would this also have made Cell immortal?


Personally, I doubt it would work because I'm sure the DNA isn't actually changed by the wish for immortality but I think it's an interesting question.

[Berserker1921]

Going to include some anime-only material here...

But what if, Gero's little DNA collector bot had been present for the Garlic Jr fight and collected some of his immortal DNA, would this also have made Cell immortal?


Personally, I doubt it would work because I'm sure the DNA isn't actually changed by the wish for immortality but I think it's an interesting question.

Idk about the immortality thing. But I would have made him maybe more invulnerable then before or increase his regeneration. Maybe include his magical capabilities into Cell. But overall wouldn't be that special.

[Berserker1921]

What if the super dragonballs were used to bring back everyone from future Trunks universe including Goku. How would that change the fight with Black? We know they would all need the ROSAT to train and get stronger. How would affect future Vegeta's relationship with Trunks?

Well the only one who would've been strong enough to combat Black would be Goku. who probably trained in other world. Possibly as strong as he would be during the Buu saga or as strong as he would be if Beerus didn't wake up. He would ultimately screw it up and not go all out and Black would become stronger by it. But as I see it. It would become like the Buu saga. How I would I love to see it. I want Goku and Vegeta fusion as Vegito. And he kills him before he becomes more powerful.

[jplaya2023]

what if goku just IT'd himself to the buu battle instead of explaining everything to vegeta and split his senzu bean with gohan

[Hellspawn28]

What if Babidi sent out Dabra to join the Cell Games to gather ki to help restore Buu out of his shell?

[dbzfan7]

If Piccolo did not sacrifice himself to save Gohan, and Gohan died, would they still have beat Vegeta in the end?

[Anime Kitten]

If Piccolo did not sacrifice himself to save Gohan, and Gohan died, would they still have beat Vegeta in the end?

Depends on whether they would need the Spirit Bomb or not.

What if Beerus and Champa participated in the Universal Tournament? What if Whis and Vados did as well?

[Hellspawn28]

If Piccolo did not sacrifice himself to save Gohan, and Gohan died, would they still have beat Vegeta in the end?

Well there would be a hard time to bounce the Genki Dama at Vegeta. Here's two possible scenarios:

A - If Vegeta does get hurt really badly, Piccolo would have killed Vegeta before he can escape. Piccolo would not listen to Goku knowing that he would not let Vegeta get away. Everyone would get wish back expect for Chazou. Meanwhile on Planet Namek, Freeza kills everyone and I doubt he would become immortal since he does not know the password. Many years later on Earth, Goku dies from the Heart Virus and everyone else gets killed by #17 and #18. Cell would be much weaker without Freeza's and King Cold's DNA. #17 and #18 may have a chance on killing Cell before he can absorb them. Beerus and Whis would look for the SSjG and find nothing. Beerus and Vados would have never start the tournament since there will be no Earth to be fighting for. I think Beerus would have killed Freeza later on. Majin Buu would never be release out of his shell because the other Z fighters are long gone.

B - Vegeta kills Goku, Krillin and Piccolo. Vegeta would destroy the Planet's core giving him more time to escape. Vegeta goes on Namek and kills Cui, Dordoia and Zarbon. Vegeta would probably be killed by the Ginyu Force and Freeza get all of the Dragon Balls. He won't know the password and end up blowing up the Planet out of pure anger. The Earth being destoryed meaning that Dr. Gero died along with it and #16-Cell would not exist. Buu saga and Super would have never happen.

[SaiyajinGokuWarrior]

What-If instead of killing Raditz, Goku spares him since he has a bit of purity inside him, and would have a ton of potential for him to be a good person. What effect and outcomes will happen in this timeline?

What-If: Bardock arrives in the future in Age 780? How he will adapt to Earth in the future? What will happen to him if the Z Fighters got involved?

[simtek34]

What if, Goku jumped out of the way right before getting kills by Piccolo? He would probably be weaker without King Kai's training, but what if the Z Warriors with Gohan but not Piccolo trained in the Room of Spirit and Time?

Goku survives
ROSAT Traning with Gohan-Piccolo?

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

What-If instead of killing Raditz, Goku spares him since he has a bit of purity inside him, and would have a ton of potential for him to be a good person. What effect and outcomes will happen in this timeline?

What-If: Bardock arrives in the future in Age 780? How he will adapt to Earth in the future? What will happen to him if the Z Fighters got involved?

See tenkaichi 2 story mode for the first one

as for bardock...IDK, maybe he'd domesticate and get a pet? Yes...He'd get a duck...and he'd name it...Bar-Duck..... :3

[Alruneia]

What-If: Bardock arrives in the future in Age 780? How he will adapt to Earth in the future? What will happen to him if the Z Fighters got involved?

He'd try to locate his boy Kakarot, probably, if he knows they're on the same planet. Goku won't know anything, obviously, but he'll probably recall some of Raditz' explanation back in the beginning of Z and come to accept that Bardock is his father. He probably won't really care, though. Also, Bardock is weak in comparison to basically every Z Fighter. Even if he was a Super Saiyan, which he isn't, he could most likely be dealt with by everyone on Tien's level and above. So it's unlikely that he'd try anything. Any attack would be shut down immediately. He could land himself a job in the Galactic Patrol if he tried hard enough, though. I think he'd like that, since it's the closest he'll get to his old life. That, or he'd ask to go to Planet Salad in Universe 6 and join the saiyans there.

[Anime Kitten]

What if Vegeta or Gohan went Super Saiyan against Frieza instead of Goku?

[Alruneia]

What if Vegeta or Gohan went Super Saiyan against Frieza instead of Goku?

They'd lose. Freeza would power up to 100 %, and because of Vegeta and Gohan's base power levels, the 50x multiplier as Super Saiyan wouldn't be enough to win, even with Gohan's rage boost. After that, Freeza would become the smuggest prick ever, since he'd have conquered his only real fear.

If they somehow won, though:
If Vegeta was the one to do it, he'd immediately have his rematch with Goku and kill him, judging from how he was during the Freeza arc. Then he'd go blow up Earth. After that he'd take over Freeza's empire.
If Gohan was the one to do it, I imagine it'd be how he brought out his hidden powers (much like Teen Gohan's SSJ2 in the actual story), so he'd only use the transformation to do that when it was necessary. It might even work the other way, so that he could only transform with the help of a rage boost. In a sense, that could actually be better than how almost every saiyan knows how to transform now (bar Pan and Bulla).
In either case, however, Freeza would be killed on Namek, since neither Gohan nor Vegeta are the sort to keep giving villains second chances like Goku is. I'm not basing that on SSJ2 Teen Gohan's attitude, but on raging Kid Gohan's attitude, by the way.

[In Brightest Day]

What if:

Goku and Vegeta did the logical thing and once again fused using the Potara earrings. Vegetto easily defeats Kid Boo and saves the Earth.

How does this effect the following events...

- 2008 OVA (Yo! Son Goku and his friends return)
- Battle of Gods and Resurrection F.
- End of Z.

[Nejishiki]

What if:

Goku and Vegeta did the logical thing and once again fused using the Potara earrings. Vegetto easily defeats Kid Boo and saves the Earth.

How does this effect the following events...

- 2008 OVA (Yo! Son Goku and his friends return)
- Battle of Gods and Resurrection F.
- End of Z.

Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return: Considering how minor their roles were, it should mostly play the same. Vegetto must awkwardly explain he's Vegeta, but not Vegeta to Tarble, so that would be amusing.

Battle of Gods: The event surprisingly goes well until Beerus decides to be blunt and ask for the Super Saiyan God. Vegetto would be defeated just as Goku originally was, but I can't see the Dragon Team attacking Beerus suddenly as they're aware it's just a normal sparring session. It's up to debate whether Beerus leaves or Vegetto gets the idea to discover how to uncover Super Saiyan God. Beerus is not as angry as he was in this scenario, so he may very well retreat peacefully. Alternatively, the pudding scene plays out anyway and the script is mostly the same. Perhaps the conditions for the ritual will be revised, to speak out-of-universe?

Resurrection F: Honestly, Vegetto would either handle this perfectly or disastrously depending on how he takes Whis' lessons, assuming he even has the same negative quirks Goku and Vegeta were foreshadowed to have exploited later on. He may very well throw away his personal weaknesses for the sake of progressing with Whis faster.

The Ending: Oob would have a greater teacher. An extra character has to take the place for somebody in the tournament. I also imagine Vegetto being rougher with Goten and Trunks to keep up their martial arts practice.

[In Brightest Day]

Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return: Considering how minor their roles were, it should mostly play the same. Vegetto must awkwardly explain he's Vegeta, but not Vegeta to Tarble, so that would be amusing.

Battle of Gods: The event surprisingly goes well until Beerus decides to be blunt and ask for the Super Saiyan God. Vegetto would be defeated just as Goku originally was, but I can't see the Dragon Team attacking Beerus suddenly as they're aware it's just a normal sparring session. It's up to debate whether Beerus leaves or Vegetto gets the idea to discover how to uncover Super Saiyan God. Beerus is not as angry as he was in this scenario, so he may very well retreat peacefully. Alternatively, the pudding scene plays out anyway and the script is mostly the same. Perhaps the conditions for the ritual will be revised, to speak out-of-universe?

Resurrection F: Honestly, Vegetto would either handle this perfectly or disastrously depending on how he takes Whis' lessons, assuming he even has the same negative quirks Goku and Vegeta were foreshadowed to have exploited later on. He may very well throw away his personal weaknesses for the sake of progressing with Whis faster.

The Ending: Oob would have a greater teacher. An extra character has to take the place for somebody in the tournament. I also imagine Vegetto being rougher with Goten and Trunks to keep up their martial arts practice.

Haha yes! Completely agreed there. I almost wish we could get short "What if" episodes sort in the same lighthearted vein of the 2008 OVA. Vegetto forcing Gohan, Trunks and Goten to train with him would be great.

[apex_pretador]

If Piccolo did not sacrifice himself to save Gohan, and Gohan died, would they still have beat Vegeta in the end?

Depends on whether they would need the Spirit Bomb or not.

What if Beerus and Champa participated in the Universal Tournament? What if Whis and Vados did as well?

Interesting. I think that the barrier won;t be able to hold shockwaves of the brothers' punches. Result: Everyone but hit & frost die, the planet explodes revealing a Super DB, while the brothers settle this down with frost & hit's help (for champa). I see beerus winning with a hell of fight, then using super DB's to do something (no idea what) after using earth DB's to resurrect everyone.

What if Vegeta or Gohan went Super Saiyan against Frieza instead of Goku?

Freezablows up the planet.

What if:

Goku and Vegeta did the logical thing and once again fused using the Potara earrings. Vegetto easily defeats Kid Boo and saves the Earth.

How does this effect the following events...

- 2008 OVA (Yo! Son Goku and his friends return)
- Battle of Gods and Resurrection F.
- End of Z.

- Finger flick
- Death of vegetto
- Doesn't happen lol

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

What if:

Goku and Vegeta did the logical thing and once again fused using the Potara earrings. Vegetto easily defeats Kid Boo and saves the Earth.

How does this effect the following events...

- 2008 OVA (Yo! Son Goku and his friends return)
- Battle of Gods and Resurrection F.
- End of Z.

Depends if they KEEP using logic. if they use the dragonballs to defuse afterwards it's all the same, accept I think Goku would have trained gohan more since he doesn't have buu to distract him and gohan seamed interested in training when goku came back. It's just buu distracted him from ...you know, his family....

so defuse-

2008-same thing assuming they keep the plot holes

same thing but with stronger goku and gohan if they train together. maybe they'd be stronger then beerus since saiyans training together is a crazy big boost.

same thing as in the anime

if they don't realize they can defuse with the balls then...-

same thing but with vegito being weird with tarble. awkaward really, and no cockblocking goku.

bog/rof- Beerus gets wrecked. I think the combined training skills, potential of goku and vegeta in vegito, plus the power of vegito itself all through trainignwould excel in power much faster then goku and vegeta separately.

eoz-nothing happens. Vegeta doesn't vow to defeat goku some day, he vows to share a toilet with him every day.

[In Brightest Day]

eoz-nothing happens. Vegeta doesn't vow to defeat goku some day, he vows to share a toilet with him every day.

I suppose depends on if Vegetto made the same request Goku did to have Boo reincarnated or not.