Broli: from "overrated" to "overhated"

[Kanassa]

Broly is probably the most overrated of all time, but as of today, Bardock is the most overrated currently. His amount of special snowflake crap has been annoying.

I'm surprised they havn't given him God form yet.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Erm... No.

Practically invincible-check
a killing machine-check
ruthless-check

Broly is what namek hyped up a ssj to be, later they made it docile, used to mask gohan's identity, given out as a bargain sale and not making the user have a firey inferno of rage and blood lust. Broly is exactly what a super saiyan was said to be!

That doesn't automatically make him a interesting character.

You say that like the opinions of him being interesting are wrong.

It doesn't make him interesting to YOU, but it's all subjective.

Practically invincible-check

a killing machine-check

ruthless-check

Made up requirements: check.

Broly is what namek hyped up a ssj to be

Go back and watch what is said about super saiyans from the moment they landed on namek to when it's explodes.


No, it isn't. If what Toriyama provided didn't met your expectations, that's not his problem nor does it make you the authority on what a Super Saiyan should or shouldn't be.

That doesn't automatically make him a interesting character.

Indeed. Nor fun.

Actually is does make him fun and interesting. Not to you but to others.

Also I'm not the authority but neither are you.

I like Broly. Yeah he's not very intellectual but I think it's part of the charm. It's cool to see someone that can just go berserk. Plus that design is great! Btw, I don't think Toriyama made his design.

Toriyama did. Kanzenshuu I think translated a daizenshuu about it. Also Toriyama gave him a tail. IDK if he just tucks it away or Toei just didn't have him have one, but yeah akira made broly's design. He did a lot o designs fro movie characters accept like, some like janemba, which he really liked.





People...dislike Broly if you must, but gives reasons for it. Also I've never seen people say broly would beat beerus or whis. Sadly yes I've seen people say he's able to beat GT characters....I love him but he'd get 1 shotted.

[Luso Saiyan]

Actually is does make him fun and interesting. Not to you but to others.

Hence the pointless generalization.

Also I'm not the authority but neither are you.

Never claimed to be.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Actually is does make him fun and interesting. Not to you but to others.

Hence the pointless generalization.

Also I'm not the authority but neither are you.

Never claimed to be.

What? It's a generalization when I say he's cool (opinion) but not a generalization when you say he isn't? (again, an opinion)


You never claimed to be? Good for you man. Neither did I. Still don't know why you felt the need to act like I did. I stated what you forgot, about what was stated in the namek arc and all the way up to broly as well.

[TheMikado]

The Broly hate is so bizarre, it would be like saying you shouldn't like the hulk but like Charles Xavier instead.

[Lord Beerus]

Nah. I still Broly is overrated and for a good read reason. He really brings nothing to table other than large muscles, loud grunting and spiky hair. And the franchise already has many characters that already fit that criteria but provide more in terms of character and story. I don't think Broly and all fans of Broly should be admonished, but I believe if someone were to say that Broly is the most overrated character in the franchise, they would have a point.

[coola]

One of classic memes, even TFS used it, when Vegeta mumbled in sleep, when Zarbon came to pick him

[TheMikado]

Nah. I still Broly is overrated and for a good read reason. He really brings nothing to table other than large muscles, loud grunting and spiky hair. And the franchise already has many characters that already fit that criteria but provide more in terms of character and story. I don't think Broly and all fans of Broly should be admonished, but I believe if someone were to say that Broly is the most overrated character in the franchise, they would have a point.

I 100% disagree. Broly as a plot device solves a lot of problems and represents a lot. Broly the "character" is dull and uninteresting but that's what he was meant to be. A vessel.

Broly is the encapsulation of the Saiyan race and the super Saiyan legend personified. He is literally not a person at all but a force of nature. His existence is both functional and symbolic. He represents the evil malicious thirst for blood of Saiyans as well as their raw power. He's basically as close to raw Saiyan power as you can get.

Why it works: Broly the representative of true Saiyan legacy in Hunan form hates the only full Saiyan who does not subscribe to Saiyan heritage. It's a representation of Goku rejecting and overcoming what a Saiyan in his raw form is. Further Brolys move set is that of raw power and domination not seen in DBZ. There are no techniques, move sets or tag names. Broly is a representation of something fair greater than himself and an allegory of how Goku has overcome his own Saiyan heritage.

[jjgp1112]

Broly gets a lot of hate because he's a rather one-dimensional character (not to mention a walking amalgamation of the cringey 90s action comic cliches) that was shoehorned into a shitload of properties and storylines to increasingly mediocre results. Not to mention his obnoxious fanbase.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Nah. I still Broly is overrated and for a good read reason. He really brings nothing to table other than large muscles, loud grunting and spiky hair. And the franchise already has many characters that already fit that criteria but provide more in terms of character and story. I don't think Broly and all fans of Broly should be admonished, but I believe if someone were to say that Broly is the most overrated character in the franchise, they would have a point.

He's got more personality then beerus and more originality. You have to at least admit that.

[Kamiccolo9]

Nah. I still Broly is overrated and for a good read reason. He really brings nothing to table other than large muscles, loud grunting and spiky hair. And the franchise already has many characters that already fit that criteria but provide more in terms of character and story. I don't think Broly and all fans of Broly should be admonished, but I believe if someone were to say that Broly is the most overrated character in the franchise, they would have a point.

He's got more personality then beerus and more originality. You have to at least admit that.

Uhhhh.... no we don't?

[Bansho64]

He's got more personality then beerus and more originality. You have to at least admit that.

Heck no. The dude is literally stone cold in terms of personality. Beerus has more personality in one scene BOG than Broly has with all three of movies. Seriously, Broly is like the easiest character to come with. A super buff Saiyan with overwhelmingly amounts of power with literally no personality or quirks at all. Said character barely says anything besides one word and has a stupid personal vendetta with the lead character. He's the most generic piece of crap the franchise has ever gotten.

[Kanassa]

Nah. I still Broly is overrated and for a good read reason. He really brings nothing to table other than large muscles, loud grunting and spiky hair. And the franchise already has many characters that already fit that criteria but provide more in terms of character and story. I don't think Broly and all fans of Broly should be admonished, but I believe if someone were to say that Broly is the most overrated character in the franchise, they would have a point.

He's got more personality then beerus and more originality. You have to at least admit that.

I think we need more of an explanation on this, by the time movie 8 was made, Broly was almost the definition of generic for Dragonball Z. The fact that his traits are taken to the extreme pull him out of being in the generic category, and he has almost zero personality; and even that's taken away by Second Comming.
Beerus, for me anyway, on the other hand has the most personality out of any Dragonball villain.

[Lord Beerus]

Nah. I still Broly is overrated and for a good read reason. He really brings nothing to table other than large muscles, loud grunting and spiky hair. And the franchise already has many characters that already fit that criteria but provide more in terms of character and story. I don't think Broly and all fans of Broly should be admonished, but I believe if someone were to say that Broly is the most overrated character in the franchise, they would have a point.

He's got more personality then beerus and more originality. You have to at least admit that.

What?

Beerus showed more personality in half of his screentime in Battle Of Gods than Broly has in every one his movie appearances. Hell, Beerus' design put his leagues above Broly in terms of originality within Dragon Ball.

[nite_jay]

I can see how Broli can be annoying, because personally he represents probably the worst parts of DB for me. I just think he's meh, but a lot of people do push their feelings against him a little too hard.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Nah. I still Broly is overrated and for a good read reason. He really brings nothing to table other than large muscles, loud grunting and spiky hair. And the franchise already has many characters that already fit that criteria but provide more in terms of character and story. I don't think Broly and all fans of Broly should be admonished, but I believe if someone were to say that Broly is the most overrated character in the franchise, they would have a point.

He's got more personality then beerus and more originality. You have to at least admit that.

I think we need more of an explanation on this, by the time movie 8 was made, Broly was almost the definition of generic for Dragonball Z. The fact that his traits are taken to the extreme pull him out of being in the generic category, and he has almost zero personality; and even that's taken away by Second Comming.
Beerus, for me anyway, on the other hand has the most personality out of any Dragonball villain.

No disrespect to anyone but you guys do realaise dragonball characters aren't deep right? It seams like some people think dragonball characters are well written and deep, when most are 1 note and generic.

Beerus-A strong villain above ssj3 who is obsessed with food, goes around blowing up planets, likes to destroy, is feared by kais, is ancient and gets mad easily. This and so much more is not only generic for dragonball, but a COMPELTE copy of buu, but as a purple cat. This is why I find beerus unoriginal.

His personality- The whole world revolves around me. Everyone should notice how great I am and fangirl all over me. I am the best. If you don't agree then you're moronic. (So gotenks..but as a purple cat. again unoriginal) I find beerus as just this-a brat. Not a real personality.

Broly-brutal, sadistic, vengeful, a prodigy, a genius, tragic backstory, and legitimate. No underligns, no cheap tricks in his powers. (which to be fair Beerus also has no underlings or cheap powers. If I'm being fair Beerus is legitimate for having these traits too.)...so yeah. Broly is much better written imo, flawed but the pros outway the cons in a higher degree for broly then beerus.


so for me it's--

broly-pros-100
cons-30

beerus- pros- 50
cones-45

both are more enjoyable then hateable on their own but I like broly more. Better written and cooler. I know this is all subjective, but the idea of saying broly is poorly written but not someone like beerus, buu or gotenks, or android 19 or many others in the series is ridiculous. Dragonball is about fighting really, not much of a story. Especially as the show goes on. I love the series and theres more good then just from the dang fighting but I personally find it silly to say broly is the worst written or bad and act like worse ones aren't bad.

Also writing isn't the only reason you can like a character. Whis is just some strong guy who serves and train a powerfull cat god. Doesn't mean you cant like him.

[Soppa Saia People]

He's got more personality then beerus and more originality. You have to at least admit that.

Heck no. The dude is literally stone cold in terms of personality. Beerus has more personality in one scene BOG than Broly has with all three of movies. Seriously, Broly is like the easiest character to come with. A super buff Saiyan with overwhelmingly amounts of power with literally no personality or quirks at all. Said character barely says anything besides one word and has a stupid personal vendetta with the lead character. He's the most generic piece of crap the franchise has ever gotten.

Well isn't that a good thing ? Stone Cold is one of the most charismatic and personality driven wrestlers of all time.

[Xeztin]

One of classic memes, even TFS used it, when Vegeta mumbled in sleep, when Zarbon came to pick him

What year was this?

Anyways, to me Broly became popular because the opinion of him was he's the biggest bad-ass to ever exist in the franchise. The character design was over the top, the guy was a freak of nature, his mental state was all but broken. He had the name "The Legendary Super Saiyan", I mean as much as some people hate the guy he was built for nothing but success with the fans. I know he's not the most satisfying villain when it comes to story or personality, but he's even popular in Japan (Or so I assumed since almost every toy/figure/candy-thing release has him along with Super characters).

As far as American dub fans, that music gave a lot of people goosebumps when they were young, especially during that fight. Rock and Metal was really popular in the early 2000's, so it was only natural they'd use it for hardcore fights in anime in America, especially a cartoon like Dragon Ball Z. I think a lot of the community doesn't like him because your average typical normal fan will say he's stronger than anyone ever which sparked the "overhated". Heroes is not helping that giving him all these new forms either and also I wouldn't be surprised if they used Broly in Super, if they only used FT's because of his popularity Broly won't be too far off.

P.S I'm still waiting on a Joker-esk villain in DBZ, I could already see Vegeta calling him a clown.

[Dbzfan94]

Nah. I still Broly is overrated and for a good read reason. He really brings nothing to table other than large muscles, loud grunting and spiky hair. And the franchise already has many characters that already fit that criteria but provide more in terms of character and story. I don't think Broly and all fans of Broly should be admonished, but I believe if someone were to say that Broly is the most overrated character in the franchise, they would have a point.

He's got more personality then beerus and more originality. You have to at least admit that.

I can't tell if you're joking or not.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Nah. I still Broly is overrated and for a good read reason. He really brings nothing to table other than large muscles, loud grunting and spiky hair. And the franchise already has many characters that already fit that criteria but provide more in terms of character and story. I don't think Broly and all fans of Broly should be admonished, but I believe if someone were to say that Broly is the most overrated character in the franchise, they would have a point.

He's got more personality then beerus and more originality. You have to at least admit that.

I can't tell if you're joking or not.

I made a post on why I feel this way. I'm wondering if you're messing me actually. saying Beerus is well written and broly isn't is like saying YODA is poorly written.