Unpopular DB opinions

[Polyphase Avatron]

He surrendered when Q trapped and immobilized his ship.

[Bansho64]

Studio Live had some pretty good moments whenever Toshiyuki Kan'no did some key animation. Seriously, I just found out he did some of my favorite scenes in the Artificial Humans arc. 18 breaking Vegeta's left arm, Gohan going SS2 after Cell comes back, and some other work in the Boo arc. He did some of Goku fighting Majin Vegeta and he did the whole freaking Gogeta scene in Movie 12. He also did Vegeta's sacrifice in the Boo arc.

[RisanF]

Peter Kelamis is the best dubbed Adult Goku.

Sometimes Kelemis' delivery may be a little stilted, but I feel he has that youthful energy that Sean Schemmel lacks. Schemmel's take on Goku is more Superman (which may be partially why the two characters are compared), but Kelemis' Goku feels more like the kind of intense, adventuresooe guy you get out of anime and games. Where Kelemis really shines is all the shouting he has to do, high-energy battle-crys that convey his resolve and adrenaline rather just his power (Schemmel tends to alternate between bellowing and shrieking). And also, as a bonus, Kelamis is the only Goku actor I know of that gets "Kaio-Ken" right.

[TobyS]

Peter Kelamis is the best dubbed Adult Goku.

Sometimes Kelemis' delivery may be a little stilted, but I feel he has that youthful energy that Sean Schemmel lacks. Schemmel's take on Goku is more Superman (which may be partially why the two characters are compared), but Kelemis' Goku feels more like the kind of intense, adventuresooe guy you get out of anime and games. Where Kelemis really shines is all the shouting he has to do, high-energy battle-crys that convey his resolve and adrenaline rather just his power (Schemmel tends to alternate between bellowing and shrieking). And also, as a bonus, Kelamis is the only Goku actor I know of that gets "Kaio-Ken" right.

agree 100% his performance in dead zone was great, felt like it captured the spirit of Nozawa while being more accessible to a newbie who hasn't had time to get why her voice works for Goku.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Peter Kelamis is the best dubbed Adult Goku.

Sometimes Kelemis' delivery may be a little stilted, but I feel he has that youthful energy that Sean Schemmel lacks. Schemmel's take on Goku is more Superman (which may be partially why the two characters are compared), but Kelemis' Goku feels more like the kind of intense, adventuresooe guy you get out of anime and games. Where Kelemis really shines is all the shouting he has to do, high-energy battle-crys that convey his resolve and adrenaline rather just his power (Schemmel tends to alternate between bellowing and shrieking). And also, as a bonus, Kelamis is the only Goku actor I know of that gets "Kaio-Ken" right.

Actually Kirby Morrow got it right in the Westwood dub during the otherworld tournament miniarc.

Anyways I respect Kelamis for his performance, but ever since Funimation did Kai Sean Schemmel is my choice for best Goku.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Peter Kelamis is the best dubbed Adult Goku.

Sometimes Kelemis' delivery may be a little stilted, but I feel he has that youthful energy that Sean Schemmel lacks. Schemmel's take on Goku is more Superman (which may be partially why the two characters are compared), but Kelemis' Goku feels more like the kind of intense, adventuresooe guy you get out of anime and games. Where Kelemis really shines is all the shouting he has to do, high-energy battle-crys that convey his resolve and adrenaline rather just his power (Schemmel tends to alternate between bellowing and shrieking). And also, as a bonus, Kelamis is the only Goku actor I know of that gets "Kaio-Ken" right.

I agree. Kelamis is the only English VA of Gokuu that I didn't find unbearable.

- Travis

[ABED]

Peter Kelamis is the best dubbed Adult Goku.

Sometimes Kelemis' delivery may be a little stilted, but I feel he has that youthful energy that Sean Schemmel lacks. Schemmel's take on Goku is more Superman (which may be partially why the two characters are compared), but Kelemis' Goku feels more like the kind of intense, adventuresooe guy you get out of anime and games. Where Kelemis really shines is all the shouting he has to do, high-energy battle-crys that convey his resolve and adrenaline rather just his power (Schemmel tends to alternate between bellowing and shrieking). And also, as a bonus, Kelamis is the only Goku actor I know of that gets "Kaio-Ken" right.

I agree. Kelamis is the only English VA of Gokuu that I didn't find unbearable.

- Travis

I'm the complete opposite. Other than his screams, he's incompetent as Goku (a LITTLE stilted?) and Schemmel's Superman is only in DBZ, plus that's more due to direction and script than Schemmel himself. Your entire view of Kelamis's acting comes down to his battle yells? And you're incorrect about Kaio-ken. Not only does Schemmel get it right in at least Kai, the pronunciation has NOTHING to do with the actors. That's the director/writer.

Kirby Morrow might be a good actor, but as Goku he's bland and unmemorable.

[Bansho64]

I agree. Kelamis is the only English VA of Gokuu that I didn't find unbearable.

- Travis

I agree with this as well. Schemmel was absolutely great in Kai and BOG but I just can't seperate him from his heroic performance in Z. It's hard to picture him as the selfish and goofy Saiyan that I see Gokuu as. Kelamis does for me. I can see him in that role and he did it very well in the three movies to me. He's my favorite English Gokuu.

[ABED]

Kelamis and Schemmel gave the same characterization. Why are you judging your assessment of the actor based on something that isn't

It's hard to picture him as the selfish and goofy Saiyan that I see Gokuu as. Kelamis does for me

Even though he's exactly that in Kai? What specifically makes you see Kelamis as the goofy Goku and not as the insipid Goofy Goku?

[Bansho64]

I don't know what it is. I like Schemmel in Kai. Believe me, I really do. I grew up with it. But I just like Kelamis in the three movies more. I like that he's more high pitched like Nozawa and he hit just the right spot for me. Schemmel did that in Kai but I just prefer Kelamis slightly more. Also, you said I'm making my assessment on something that isn't. What isn't? Not sure what you're talking about.

[ABED]

I really need to edit. I meant you are basing your assessment on something that isn't in the control of the actors. Goku's characterization isn't something that's in Schemmel or Kelamis's hands. And so what if Kelamis's voice is higher pitched? Does the pitch really matter more than his lousy performance and awkward, goofy delivery?

[RisanF]

I agree. Kelamis is the only English VA of Gokuu that I didn't find unbearable.

- Travis

I agree with this as well. Schemmel was absolutely great in Kai and BOG but I just can't seperate him from his heroic performance in Z. It's hard to picture him as the selfish and goofy Saiyan that I see Gokuu as. Kelamis does for me. I can see him in that role and he did it very well in the three movies to me. He's my favorite English Gokuu.

It helps Kelemis that the first three Dragon Ball movies had a better localization than the rest of the early DBZ dub. They're uncensored, the script is more accurate, and they kept the original Japanese music. This lets Kelemis cut loose a bit more, which adds to his hot-headed portrayal of Goku.

I think Schemmel's voice naturally lends himself to a super-righteous performance. He would probably make a pretty good Superman if he was in DC Universe Animated Original Movies, directed by Andrea Romano, and the whole deal. The Dudley Do-Right stuff of the original DBZ dub actually suits his performance pretty well, and I think he does better with that version of Goku than the more selfish Goku of Kai. He's just generally a broader version of Goku, while Kelemis' is more primal and straight-forward (though Schemmel's "See you in Hell Frieza!" is pretty powerful).

[ABED]

I would never call Kelamis's Goku "primal". His delivery, even his tough guy delivery is too awkward. Schemmel is great as goofy and affable Goku because that's close to Sean, at least from what I've seen in interviews.

[Bansho64]

I really need to edit. I meant you are basing your assessment on something that isn't in the control of the actors. Goku's characterization isn't something that's in Schemmel or Kelamis's hands. And so what if Kelamis's voice is higher pitched? Does the pitch really matter more than his lousy performance and awkward, goofy delivery?

It does for me I guess in that particular casting. And I don't think his performance was lousy. Maybe a bit too goofy sometimes but never lousy to me. He's honestly one of my favorite voices in any English dubbed Dragon Ball material. The performance was really natural to me.

[Hellspawn28]

I'm starting to grow to like Zeno a lot more. I think the idea of a little kid who is super powerful that rules the 12 universes is not a bad idea. It feels like something that Toriyama would have pull off. It does remind me when Marvel had Franklin Richards, who is a little kid with god like powers that could destroy the whole universe.

[Anime Kitten]

I'm starting to grow to like Zeno a lot more. I think the idea of a little kid who is super powerful that rules the 12 universes is not a bad idea. It feels like something that Toriyama would have pull off.

From what I've seen, this might be a pretty popular opinion.

[Desassina]

If Akira Toriyama ever wanted a fusion between Future Trunks and Gohan, his name would be Truhan, and not Gohanks, because that name was already taken by the games. Since Truhan is Spanish for rogue, and Rogue is an X-Men character, his hair should have Trunks' color at the top and the middle, while the sides and back are dark like Gohan's. The hair shape would be spiked up like Gotenks', regardless of the ones who make that fusion, with a bang colored like Trunks' hair on the forehead. Enabled by the potara earrings, and allowing Gohan's Ultimate state to be unleashed, their base look would remain. It's unpopular, because it won't happen.

[Krillin1994]

generally with hindsight I really hate Bruce Faulconer's score. But there are two tracks I still find to be very enjoyable and better than Sumimoto.

Cell's theme and the 'Goku going SS3'

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

generally with hindsight I really hate Bruce Faulconer's score. But there are two tracks I still find to be very enjoyable and better than Sumimoto.

Cell's theme and the 'Goku going SS3'

The Faulconer score has good tracks, they just don't fit the mystical, distinctively eastern feel of Dragon Ball.

[ABED]

generally with hindsight I really hate Bruce Faulconer's score. But there are two tracks I still find to be very enjoyable and better than Sumimoto.

Cell's theme and the 'Goku going SS3'

The Faulconer score has good tracks, they just don't fit the mystical, distinctively eastern feel of Dragon Ball.

A blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.