Are you enjoying the Black Arc so far?

[Faisal Shourov]

Yes. DBS is fianlly looking like a true continuation of DBZ thanks to this arc. We will have to wait and see how it ends though.

Apart from the excessive Pilaf gang, I agree this arc is very similar to DBZ arcs. I really can't complain about anything except for the shitty animation at times. I liked the detailed explanation of time rings, which is something that Super has thoroughly missed from the beginning (explanation). Hopefully we will see some logic

[kinisking]

Everything related to Trunks vs Black were great till now.
Vegeta training Trunks was good.
Zeno and Goku were also fine.
Zamasu is a great character and I do hope there is a clear reason for going dark.

However I disliked:
Goku vs Black (the battle was short, bad animated with animation changing every 3 seconds and Goku ben out of character and fighting like an ssj when it was stated that ssj2 Trunks lost to Black)
The do drag the story a lot. Last arcs were moving very fast and this one goes as slow as it goes.

How was Goku out of character during the fight?

[Cipher]

It's a shame to see so many people hating on the Pilaf gang -- or rather, to see them so poorly utilized here.

They're genuinely funny in the original Dragon Ball anime and any time Toriyama is writing them. I have a feeling they'd be genuinely funny in this arc too if they showed up a little less often. Toriyama would be using them for actual jokes. Their roles in several of these episodes have amounted to light-hearted fluff that really does just interrupt the flow.

[THEGOKU]

It's a shame to see so many people hating on the Pilaf gang -- or rather, to see them so poorly utilized here.

They're genuinely funny in the original Dragon Ball anime and any time Toriyama is writing them. I have a feeling they'd be genuinely funny in this arc too if they showed up a little less often. Toriyama would be using them for actual jokes. Their roles in several of these episodes have amounted to light-hearted fluff that really does just interrupt the flow.

I just came in this thread to see if anyone would say this perfect summary of the Pilaf Gang so thank you very much for this. DB and DBZ is funny when it isn't trying so hard or when Roshi is up to his antics. Pilaf Gang in this story I get they are doing the whole Mai thing but it is just too much.

[Mazingerdestro]

Everything related to Trunks vs Black were great till now.
Vegeta training Trunks was good.
Zeno and Goku were also fine.
Zamasu is a great character and I do hope there is a clear reason for going dark.

However I disliked:
Goku vs Black (the battle was short, bad animated with animation changing every 3 seconds and Goku ben out of character and fighting like an ssj when it was stated that ssj2 Trunks lost to Black)
The do drag the story a lot. Last arcs were moving very fast and this one goes as slow as it goes.

How was Goku out of character during the fight?

Goku delaying to go all out.
Something invented by Toei

[sailorspazz]

I'm loving the arc so far! Of course it's not perfect, but there's enough intrigue with everything that's going on to make me feel much more invested in Super than I was through the movie retellings and Universe 6 tournament (though I really enjoyed the tournament, too, but there wasn't as much "meat" there compared to this arc). It's the first time I've gotten such a sense mystery and anticipation over what's going to happen. Sure, the Cell arc had mystery too, but at the time most Western fans got into the series, you could already read all about what had happened online, even if the episodes wouldn't officially be released here until later. With the Black arc, though, there's not a whole lot of information being released early, and the manga has fallen behind, so there's no preview of what's to come (save for occasional leaks and episode titles/summaries). So it's very exciting to watch every week and see how things play out without knowing much ahead of time!

And the new characters...oh, man. I don't know how he does it, but Toriyama seems to always come up with characters who wind up way more interesting than surface-level descriptions would indicate. "Evil Gokuu" seems like an incredibly uninteresting, over-used trope. But the few appearances we've seen from Black have been so satisfying, simply because the idea is being executed well. Not to mention Masako Nozawa making him sound so sexy. And speaking of sexy...Zamasu is another character whom we haven't seen a whole lot of yet, but he totally seems like the type of dickish character I always fall for ♥_♥ Watching him turn to the dark side is just a delight, and something we haven't seen in Dragon Ball (plenty of the other way around, with many early antagonists eventually becoming allies). The mystery of how Black and Zamasu are connected, and how Black ended up terrorizing the future, keeps me thinking about this arc in a way the others haven't made me do so far, including making a number of incorrect theories I'm so eager to find out what's going on, but nevertheless I hope the arc goes on for a while, giving time for everything to be fleshed out. The pacing has been good so far...the breaks make it feel like it's taking forever, but we're still only 9 episodes in, so if it's going to run for a few months, I wouldn't expect too much to be revealed this early on. Hoping by the time everything's done, we have good/interesting/logical explanations for how everything happened, plus a satisfying conclusion (I'm begging, please, let future Trunks finally be happy ;_:), and we can have an arc that can stand up to the quality of the original series we all know and love.

[MajinMan]

I think this is the best arc in Super so far (unless some insane BS pops up down the line), and it could be one of my favorite arcs in the entire franchise. Let's just say that if it continues with this level of quality and ends with a bang, I might have to put it in my top 3 arcs.

[kinisking]

Everything related to Trunks vs Black were great till now.
Vegeta training Trunks was good.
Zeno and Goku were also fine.
Zamasu is a great character and I do hope there is a clear reason for going dark.

However I disliked:
Goku vs Black (the battle was short, bad animated with animation changing every 3 seconds and Goku ben out of character and fighting like an ssj when it was stated that ssj2 Trunks lost to Black)
The do drag the story a lot. Last arcs were moving very fast and this one goes as slow as it goes.

How was Goku out of character during the fight?

Goku delaying to go all out.
Something invented by Toei

Toei? Just off the top of my head GInyu, majin vegeta. bog, rof, against hit.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

How was Goku out of character during the fight?

Goku delaying to go all out.
Something invented by Toei

Toei? Just off the top of my head GInyu, majin vegeta. bog, rof, against hit.

Also burter,jeice, tein second fight,vegeta,nappa and a lot more.

[Cetra]

I think it is one of the best things to come out of Dragon Ball overall.

[kinisking]

It's a shame to see so many people hating on the Pilaf gang -- or rather, to see them so poorly utilized here.

They're genuinely funny in the original Dragon Ball anime and any time Toriyama is writing them. I have a feeling they'd be genuinely funny in this arc too if they showed up a little less often. Toriyama would be using them for actual jokes. Their roles in several of these episodes have amounted to light-hearted fluff that really does just interrupt the flow.

Not for me, I genuinely hated them back in dragonball too.

[Anime Kitten]

I think it is one of the best things to come out of Dragon Ball overall.

Next to GT, I assume?

[Cetra]

I think it is one of the best things to come out of Dragon Ball overall.

Next to GT, I assume?

Next to GT, the original Dragon Ball and a few parts of Z.

[Mazingerdestro]

How was Goku out of character during the fight?

Goku delaying to go all out.
Something invented by Toei

Toei? Just off the top of my head GInyu, majin vegeta. bog, rof, against hit.

I think you confuse going easy to avoid to kill and holding back for no reason.

To further prove my point even trunks mentioned yesterday that goku is ignoring his habit. Yeah the habit they invented for a fight

[Mazingerdestro]

Goku delaying to go all out.
Something invented by Toei

Toei? Just off the top of my head GInyu, majin vegeta. bog, rof, against hit.

Also burter,jeice, tein second fight,vegeta,nappa and a lot more.

For burter and jeice he wasn't using 100% because he didn't want to kill them.

In the second tien fight he was still using heavy gear hoping to win without removing it (overconfident).

For Nappa he never went easy. He didn't start with kaioken because he knew he could blow his body.

For vegeta he never went easy.

Even in the Majin Vegeta fight he avoided 100% to save his time and not insult him.

Goku in general prefers to check his opponents power before going 100% but never flat out holding back.

This super moment is the only time he did it.
In the rematch he turned ssjblue in an instant and trunks explained that "wow he ignored his habit" yeah.....he ignored the habit he used once......

[kinisking]

Toei? Just off the top of my head GInyu, majin vegeta. bog, rof, against hit.

Also burter,jeice, tein second fight,vegeta,nappa and a lot more.

For burter and jeice he wasn't using 100% because he didn't want to kill them.

In the second tien fight he was still using heavy gear hoping to win without removing it (overconfident).

For Nappa he never went easy. He didn't start with kaioken because he knew he could blow his body.

For vegeta he never went easy.

Even in the Majin Vegeta fight he avoided 100% to save his time and not insult him.

Goku in general prefers to check his opponents power before going 100% but never flat out holding back.

This super moment is the only time he did it.
In the rematch he turned ssjblue in an instant and trunks explained that "wow he ignored his habit" yeah.....he ignored the habit he used once......

Just because he did it for different moments doesn't mean he wasn't holding back. It's still something he has consistently done over the series. I don't get your point?

[Lord Beerus]

The newest episode of Super, episode 56, is not only the best the show has provided by a wide margin, but it's also one of the best episodes the anime franchise has ever produced. So as of right now, the Goku Black has officialy cracked into my top five favourite arcs of the entire franchise.

[Shinomori]

I do hope the explanation for how Black became so powerful in just a day is well thought out. I know he applied Goku's fighting style and thoughts to his own being, and with that he would pursue to become stronger. However to jump from being on par with SSJ2 Goku to beating down SSB Vegeta in base form is a huge jump. The only thing more unbelievable was Frieza being able to surpass SSB Goku, but at least he trained for a few months. Super so far is having a lot of trouble in gauging the strength of characters. I'm starting wonder if Beerus is really all that strong. If Black can easily defeat Goku and Vegeta, perhaps he also can beat down Beerus.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

The newest episode of Super, episode 56, is not only the best the show has provided by a wide margin, but it's also one of the best episodes the anime franchise has ever produced. So as of right now, the Goku Black has officialy cracked into my top five favourite arcs of the entire franchise.

I'd agree for the most part, however I'm still reserving judgement until the arc wraps up. Part of me believes something predictable may happen like Goku defeating Black, and redeeming Zamasu (and that's saying something because Goku is my favourite character). If it does the arc will at least still be in my top 10, and it will still be the best arc the series has had in nearly 20 years.

[emperior]

This is shaping up to be one of the best arcs ever in all of Dragon Ball. The last episode was just incredible, the story is getting better and better.