I feel that he'll definitely work on Super in the future but I also think that he was just referencing the special in that tweet.
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I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
If I haven't missed anything and there's nothing from him at the end of this special, then perhaps he's working on Super later down the line.
His initial tweet did say it was only a little cut, so I'm not expecting much, though.
remember watching 725 and just facepalming at the animation being on 3's CONSISTENTLY (the 3s works for snaps not for consistent movement)holy crap, Even Shida can look like Garbage if the time isnt there. If you ever have to make a "good animator with no time = mediocre animation" argument that should be the go-to example since EVERYBODY knows who Shida is by this point.
Seriously how many people ask things like " WHY DONT THEY JUST GET SHIDA TO ANIMATE THE WHOLE SERIES" or refer to him "AS THE BEST ANIMATOR AT SHITTY TOEI AND NOBODY ELSE COMES CLOSE!"
Those people make me pull my dreadlocks out, it's so infuriating, so now I'm working on a video to shut that argument down.
If he said it was just a small cut then I'm saddened.
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Any idea how many people worked on the new footage?
I enjoyed the new Freeza stuff, even if it was ultimately pointless, the art was pretty great for a lot of it and there were a couple bits of nice animation. It does look like the storyboard was probably thrown together very quickly using manga panels though. I'm guessing Otsuka did the more animated bits of Goku vs Freeza late in the fight. Hopefully Otsuka and Shida pop up in Super soon.
One thing that did bother me was that Vegeta looked like a kid for a lot of it.
So i just watched clips of new animation. Welllll..... it was alright. Nice art, but animation was lacking. The only part I enjoyed was probably the ssj goku vs freeza fight. Also looks like Shida might be working for Super.
The animation was refreshing, but those characters designs, specially Vegeta and Frieza, and the colors...
Aside from the fact that some scenes lacked impact (I want to see shockwaves and colateral damage/effects when they power up, transform and attack), I think they're slowly stepping in the correct direction. The golden smoke thing that came out of Goku before he transformed is an effect I've been wanting to see in modern DB, and that kick sequence and the punch that came after it were just delicious.
I don't understand the complaints about buff SSJ Goku and 100% Frieza. Did you forget they looked like that in the anime? Anyhow, the animation looked good for the most part. Frieza's final blast was poorly done, though. He didn't lurch forwards to fire it.
Just watched the newly animated scene in the TV airing of Resurrection F and I thought as whole they were... pretty alright. I thought everything from Goku transforming into a SSJ was very well done, but it was certainly nothing spectacular or as great as should have and could have been. But I thought the scenes that were reanimated were better animated than how it was in Z. But that's primarily due to how faithful the new animated scenes were to how the fight was portrayed in the manga.
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Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
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Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
I think we deserve more from Shida than just some smoke...
As for Otsuka Ken. it's confimed he was indeed working only in ROF special and not in Super? Seems like he did said Super back then, but maybe there was a misunderstanding.
Anyway we should find out in the next 3 episodes.
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First thing's first, doesn't seem like there was actually any Shida there, at all. It was Yuya Takahashi aka Mini-Shida. You'll know him from his Shida homage in episode 13, alongside his work on Resurrection 'F'.
I think he may well have been the animation director for this episode. The large majority of this special has his shading all over it. His style is very similar to Shida's, which is why I think a lot of us were mistaken there. Looking at his Twitter, he was pimping out the promo tweets for this thing pretty hard, whereas Shida didn't tweet a thing.
Absolutely loved the final cut:
Takahashi did some great work there. Really impressive stuff. Not his best work, but given his presence all over this thing, I think it's passable!
There were a lot of really interesting drawings throughout, which is why I don't think Yamamuro was involved outside of everyone adhering to his character designs.
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An exceptionally expressive special, that's for sure.
It's the shame the actual content was just a retread. It's why I said it felt like a waste.
Assuming I'm correct, this does mean that Shida will likely be popping up on Super. That's exciting!
Mini-Shida is a good nickname. I only knew his episode 13 cut.
Thanks for sharing that clip on HD. I can now appreciate that masterpiece in all its beauty.
Let's hope Big-Shida shows up in Super then.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota
God I hope you're right and Shida didn't work on that.
I want to know what Otsuka did in this new stuff.
But yeah, outside of some really nice art that cut you posted was the only thing that was all that great, doesn't seem like too much work went into it the whole 12 minutes, either way I want to people who worked on it to come onto Super. Takahashi would be a great Supervisor.
Man, if Takahashi really was the AD for the special, he did a good job. The shading is very nice. I hope that the lack of Shida means that he'll be working on Super, but yeah I'm not hoping too much either. Better to be surprised than disappointed! Yamamuro could be working on Super too, if he had little to do with the extra footage. Either that or an ending I guess.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.