Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:18 pm

Avok wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Early parts in Z when it first appeared was pretty nasty.
The shape or the color?
I don't like the shape they used in the Frieza fight, but the color is spot on.
Shape definitely. I mean it did get better as the arc went on but the start of that arc it's really off putting especially now after the "F" special.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Avok » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:23 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Avok wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Early parts in Z when it first appeared was pretty nasty.
The shape or the color?
I don't like the shape they used in the Frieza fight, but the color is spot on.
Shape definitely. I mean it did get better as the arc went on but the start of that arc it's really off putting especially now after the "F" special.
Yeah, I agree.

Now it's the color they use that I don't like.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by ArchedThunder » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:26 pm

Ajay wrote:
cuartas wrote:This is the worst shot I have seen of black in this arc
While I found it to be one of my favourites.

You don't like Tate much though, do you? So I guess that explains it!

I'm not particularly fond of Manabe's style, so I wasn't really feeling the styles found in the first half of this episode.
I'm a fan of Tate and even I really don't like that shot.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by nite_jay » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:29 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Ajay wrote:
cuartas wrote:This is the worst shot I have seen of black in this arc
While I found it to be one of my favourites.

You don't like Tate much though, do you? So I guess that explains it!

I'm not particularly fond of Manabe's style, so I wasn't really feeling the styles found in the first half of this episode.
I'm a fan of Tate and even I really don't like that shot.
I'm with Ajay on this one. That shot looks really good imo.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by ArchedThunder » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:32 pm

nite_jay wrote: I'm with Ajay on this one. That shot looks really good imo.
To each his own, but that and the slightly earlier part where he was looking up more were the only pieces of Tate art this episode that bothered me.

I did actually enjoy Manabe for the most part, I wouldn't mind him becoming more of a regular, as long has he stopped doing these kinds of noses.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Bansho64 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:18 pm

Still waiting for Nakatsuru to supervise the Super opening. A man can dream, can't he? :thumbup: Did anyone notice how that pic of Black that cuartas posted looks strangely like that giraffe CP9 guy from One Piece, Kaku? I don't know why that came into my mind but I can't unsee it now :lol:

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by kinisking » Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:40 pm

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nite_jay wrote: I'm with Ajay on this one. That shot looks really good imo.
To each his own, but that and the slightly earlier part where he was looking up more were the only pieces of Tate art this episode that bothered me.

I did actually enjoy Manabe for the most part, I wouldn't mind him becoming more of a regular, as long has he stopped doing these kinds of noses.
http://imgur.com/a/i8iss
From the front, that nose looks really weird. But i liked his noses in other shots! I actually like Manabe's pointy Vegeta a LOT.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Slaythe » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:05 pm

Do we know who drew this ?

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
And no hair shading = win.

Lately, Goku has rarely looked this good outside of Toriyama's own faces =( .

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Wezenheim » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:10 am

Slaythe wrote:Do we know who drew this ?

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
And no hair shading = win.

Lately, Goku has rarely looked this good outside of Toriyama's own faces =( .
I think that's Inaba Jin. He's pretty solid, I wonder if he'll show up again sometime now that he's done working on the extended 'F' cut.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by PMD » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:15 am

My goodness, look at that Tate's Super Saiyan Rosé shot!!

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Ajay's imgur album with Tate shots from episode #56 is awesome. These are my favourite:

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His use of perspective, I'm in love with this shot:
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And his use of the depth of field is awesome:
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And the last shot from the episode, with that canted low angle like if the camera is lying on the floor. This arc has the best storyboard, by far.
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Can we have Tate forever and always in DBS? Just him. The hell with the rest. I want Dragon Ball Tate to be a thing.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by THEGOKU » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:12 am

Do we know who the animator will be for episode 57? I would really like for it to be Karasawa (apologies if spelled wrong).

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Post by BakaManiaHD » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:19 am

THEGOKU wrote:Do we know who the animator will be for episode 57? I would really like for it to be Karasawa (apologies if spelled wrong).
It will be Naotoshi Shida ( a fantastic animator, one of the best of all toei animation ) and another one
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Ajay » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:27 am

THEGOKU wrote:Do we know who the animator will be for episode 57? I would really like for it to be Karasawa (apologies if spelled wrong).
The animation supervisor for episode 57 is Yuichi Karasawa and Yukihiro Kitano.

The only key animator we know so far is Naotoshi Shida.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by THEGOKU » Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:33 am

There are a lot of animators that only worked on a few episodes that should be working on a lot more. The one who did 56 whose name I can't remember right now is really inconsistent but this was one of his better looking ones. He has been involved with a lot of episodes though so hopefully someone else can start getting more work. A lot of these guys have a lot of potential.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by emperior » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:54 am

Great, Karasawa's one of my favorites. I love his drawings. Kitano too is very, very good when he gets enough time. He's in fact the one who drew the Black picture I use as my avatar, I think?

Episode 57 is looking like it will be one of the best episodes of Super art wise and animation wise.

But I'm still wondering why they only let Shuichi Iseki handle one episode. He is very good, I hope they will bring him back and make him do more.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Ajay » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:59 am

emperior wrote:Great, Karasawa's one of my favorites. I love his drawings. Kitano too is very, very good when he gets enough time. He's in fact the one who drew the Black picture I use as my avatar, I think?
Your avatar was drawn by Futoshi Higashide working under Kitano.

Kitano's not bad, though he does get stuck with some awful animators.

At his best, I don't really find his art style that appealing, personally. But eh, personal taste and all that!
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by THEGOKU » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:08 pm

Ajay wrote:
THEGOKU wrote:Do we know who the animator will be for episode 57? I would really like for it to be Karasawa (apologies if spelled wrong).
The animation supervisor for episode 57 is Yuichi Karasawa and Yukihiro Kitano.

The only key animator we know so far is Naotoshi Shida.
Now I have to ask because this is the only time I've really focused on the animation side of things. Since they are just supervising they aren't actually doing any of the work they are just making sure the "quality" is good or am I wrong? I just feel episode 57 is going to be very important to this arc and don't just want great acting and fighting but a good looking episode too.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by kinisking » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:13 pm

This thread really blew up in popularity. Page 38 was still talking about episode 39, and now we're on page 145 less than 20 episodes later.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by Ajay » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:13 pm

THEGOKU wrote:Now I have to ask because this is the only time I've really focused on the animation side of things. Since they are just supervising they aren't actually doing any of the work they are just making sure the "quality" is good or am I wrong? I just feel episode 57 is going to be very important to this arc and don't just want great acting and fighting but a good looking episode too.
See this post for details on what exactly a supervisor does.

Quite often they do also provide key animation, especially on Super. Their main goal is provide a consistent look across the episode, however.
kinisking wrote:This thread really blew up in popularity. Page 38 was still talking about episode 39, and now we're on page 145 less than 20 episodes later.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #56]

Post by THEGOKU » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:42 pm

Thanks for answering my question I appreciate it. With a lot of different people working on Super I figured it be more important to get some knowledge about who does what and works on what. The show is not old it is still fairly new compared to other anime but it seems each animator is coming into their own. Of course here and there we will still have flashes of bad animation but that happens.

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