Can our next arc villian be a woman?

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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:08 pm

Shin wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:But why wouldn't you want to be outta of the kitchen, that's where the food is! :lol:
These are garbage posts that I DID NOT expect to come from Kanzenshuu. Wtf?
How is mine garbage ? I made a dumb little joke, I wasn't being sexist. Men, Women and Children belong in the kitchen, that's where the food is.
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Bullza » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:12 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:Not funny.
Can we not act like a bunch of 9 year old boys here?
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by ArchedThunder » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:14 pm

Bullza wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:Not funny.
Can we not act like a bunch of 9 year old boys here?
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More like you should be a decent human being instead of spouting sexist trite.

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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Viewtiful Jess » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:15 pm

LightBing wrote:I'm all for new things but why a woman and why a villain? Can't it just an ally? Or a wise character?
Because. Every villian we've had snice the introduction of Cell has been male-oriented. A fellow hero would be GREAT. I want somebody who is female or female-like.
At this point it isn't even being picky about sex, we haven't had humans in forever!
Yes. It. Is.

We have all this male representation, but none for the female sex? Launch, Ran-Fan, Hasky(Filler), Chi-Chi, Fasha, #18, Zangya, Videl, Pan and Oceanus. Those are your ladies or lady-likes who fight. How many guys can you list from the series? Or male-masculine? I bet it's a lot.
The Gods are asexual, right? Zamasu honestly could either way, if they gave him a more neutral voice.
Exactly. Why can't we get that so girls, women, and other female associating genders could either associate with, admire or just be like wow that shit is cool.

Every woman in DB had been reduced to the stereotypical trope of housewife. It's boring.
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Shin » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:16 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:
Shin wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:But why wouldn't you want to be outta of the kitchen, that's where the food is! :lol:
These are garbage posts that I DID NOT expect to come from Kanzenshuu. Wtf?
How is mine garbage ? I made a dumb little joke, I wasn't being sexist. Men, Women and Children belong in the kitchen, that's where the food is.
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You're right. My apologies!
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ArchedThunder wrote:Not funny.
Can we not act like a bunch of 9 year old boys here?
Serious business forum :lol: .
Refraining from making sexist jokes is not that difficult lol.

:| But to respond to the topic, a female villain has been very needed in my opinion. Like others have stated, it would be interesting and would provide a very nice take away from the traditional line of villains. Execution would be very important for said character though. I wouldn't want to see her acting like a common media stereotypical girl and would rather them take a page from Steven Universe on how they handle fem antagonists.

ALSO... Once the cast overcome the new villain, DON'T make her some housewife like EVERY OTHER female character in DragonBall. I hate that shit lmao.
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Bullza » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:17 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:More like you should be a decent human being instead of spouting sexist trite.
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:19 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Bullza wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:Not funny.
Can we not act like a bunch of 9 year old boys here?
Serious business forum :lol: .
More like you should be a decent human being instead of spouting sexist trite.
Whoa, whoa, I agree that Bullza's post was more then a little sexist, but trite ? Dude, it was a joke, he wasn't spouting hate speeches against Women.
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by ArchedThunder » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:21 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:
Bullza wrote:
Serious business forum :lol: .
More like you should be a decent human being instead of spouting sexist trite.
Whoa, whoa, I agree that Bullza's post was more then a little sexist, but trite ? Dude, it was a joke, he wasn't spouting hate speeches against Women.
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(of a remark, opinion, or idea) overused and consequently of little import; lacking originality or freshness.


Saying "If you can get her out of the kitchen" is absolutely trite.
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:24 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote: More like you should be a decent human being instead of spouting sexist trite.
Whoa, whoa, I agree that Bullza's post was more then a little sexist, but trite ? Dude, it was a joke, he wasn't spouting hate speeches against Women.
trite
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(of a remark, opinion, or idea) overused and consequently of little import; lacking originality or freshness.
Saying "If you can get her out of the kitchen" is absolutely trite.
Oops, I read that as "tirade", MAH BAD :oops:
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by ChronoTwigger » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:38 pm

I think there's some (silly) moral issue on Goku punching hard a woman.
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Viewtiful Jess » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:52 pm

ChronoTwigger wrote:I think there's some (silly) moral issue on Goku punching hard a woman.
Goku already fought Chi-Chi at the WMA Tournament. He has no qualms fighting women. He has problems fighting people who aren't strong.
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Smilodon » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:18 pm

Marco Polo wrote: Kai people are born from fruits on a magic tree, so technically they're asexual. The only female Kai people we've seen are in filler and video games.
Chronoa is female
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And the West Kaioshin is also female
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Marco Polo » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:32 pm

Smilodon wrote:
Marco Polo wrote: Kai people are born from fruits on a magic tree, so technically they're asexual. The only female Kai people we've seen are in filler and video games.
Chronoa is female

And the West Kaioshin is also female
Maybe you could read the second sentence in my post or something.

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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by kinisking » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:46 pm

Bullza wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:More like you should be a decent human being instead of spouting sexist trite.
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I'm not sexist, but do we really need to get so offended about a joke? Jokes are jokes. Eventually people aren't going to be able to joke about anything ffs.
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:49 pm

If this has to be, then it should be Towa.

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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by ChronoTwigger » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:02 pm

Viewtiful Jess wrote:
ChronoTwigger wrote:I think there's some (silly) moral issue on Goku punching hard a woman.
Goku already fought Chi-Chi at the WMA Tournament. He has no qualms fighting women. He has problems fighting people who aren't strong.
They fought, Goku DON'T touch her not even once (he move her with an "air punch").
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:06 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:If this has to be, then it should be Towa.
Oh please god no.
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Viewtiful Jess » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:18 pm

kinisking wrote:
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ArchedThunder wrote:More like you should be a decent human being instead of spouting sexist trite.
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I'm not sexist, but do we really need to get so offended about a joke? Jokes are jokes. Eventually people aren't going to be able to joke about anything ffs.
And it was a stupid joke, showcasing the character of a person in the first five posts of a topic.
ChronoTwigger wrote:They fought, Goku DON'T touch her not even once (he move her with an "air punch").
That is true. Still I don't think Goku as the character he is now would have a problem fighting an extremely powerful foe, no matter what sex or gender.

I also didn't see the (silly) in your post. You're probably right there then. It took Toriyama 500 years to get to women being Super Saiyans so maybe this is out of reach too...
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Alruneia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:28 pm

Sure. Have Toriyama write an entire arc about a villain with well-written development, then slap a pair of boobs on the evil bastard before release. That's how I want a female villain to be: Not defined by gender in any other way than form. It shouldn't matter that she's female, she just is. Know what I mean?
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Re: Can our next arc villian be a woman?

Post by Marco Polo » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:31 pm

Alruneia wrote:Sure. Have Toriyama write an entire arc about a villain with well-written development, then slap a pair of boobs on the evil bastard before release. That's how I want a female villain to be: Not defined by gender in any other way than form. It shouldn't matter that she's female, she just is. Know what I mean?
I think you have too much faith in Toriyama. We're talking about the series that was making sagging boob jokes at Bulma a few episodes ago.

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